Fresh Pond Posted September 4, 2012 Share #51 Posted September 4, 2012 I don't know why either. It's done with other parades outside of Manhattan. The sheer size of the parade is way too large to just stop mid-route and let buses pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 4, 2012 Share #52 Posted September 4, 2012 The sheer size of the parade is way too large to just stop mid-route and let buses pass I think it can be done... I lived near a parade route for years by Forest Avenue and when they have the St. Patrick's Day Parade, they stop every so often to let traffic through. It can be done if organized properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted September 4, 2012 Share #53 Posted September 4, 2012 I think it can be done... I lived near a parade route for years by Forest Avenue and when they have the St. Patrick's Day Parade, they stop every so often to let traffic through. It can be done if organized properly. The West Indian day parade is probably the largest parade in the city and it gets bigger every year. There was no way of stopping it yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 4, 2012 Share #54 Posted September 4, 2012 The West Indian day parade is probably the largest parade in the city and it gets bigger every year. There was no way of stopping it yesterday Well yes I'm aware of how big it is... I'm from South Brooklyn... I would still beg to differ though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubBus Posted September 6, 2012 Share #55 Posted September 6, 2012 I grew up in Crown Heights. As others mentioned, back in the day, buses would pass through Eastern Parkway and continue on their route. I guess for safety and crowd issues, this is no longer the case..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share #56 Posted September 6, 2012 Do you guys remember when 5th Av-Madison Av was frozen zone due to President was in MET (Not Obama, but forgot who was president before him) It was on weekdays, I was on uptown M3 via Madison Av, NYPD couldn't let us through, so we went loop via 60th St, 5th Av, 57th St, 3rd Av, then return to regular route past MET Museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share #57 Posted September 6, 2012 Pre last year's Marathon, who are charge of posting detour for NYC Marathon did not post any sign that all 5th Av buses are being detour, and because of that tourists were waiting for bus at regular 5th Av/84th St bus stop. Some B/O stops on charter bus stop on 84th St or some stops on 84th St exit ramp before returning to 5th Av. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted October 5, 2012 Share #58 Posted October 5, 2012 S40, S42/52, S44, S46, S48, S51, S53, S61, S62, S74 and S78 buses detoured due to the Staten Island Half Marathon Day, 8 AM to 1 PM, Sunday, Oct 7 Buses are being detoured from Richmond Terr, Bay St, School Rd, Lily Pond Av, Father Capodanno Blvd and Seaview Av. S40, S42/52, S44, S46, S48, S51, S61, S62, S74 and S78: Routes scheduled to enter/exit the St George Ferry Terminal will depart from St Mark's Pl. How are people supposed to go from the terminal to St Marks Pl if the route goes right in front of it? And are buses going to hold for the walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted October 6, 2012 Share #59 Posted October 6, 2012 I'm not sure, but based on the route (see here), it looks like people will have to go out through the parking lots, and get out by Jersey Street, and then make their way to St. Marks Place from there. (I mean, obviously they can't cross in front of the runners, and I doubt they'd put up a temporary bridge or anything). But St. Marks Place is on a hill at that point. Bank Street (the road that passes by the parking lots) is kind of narrow, so I don't know if buses would be able to turn up there and end at one of the parking lots or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 1, 2013 Share #60 Posted January 1, 2013 I really would like to know who or which department posts the detours because more times than not they are completely inaccurate and what's worse is these are planned detours that they know about in advance. Tonight was a perfect example. The bus that I needed was supposed to resume its regular route after 57th street based on the information posted on the website: 3PM Mon to 4AM Tue, Dec. 31 - Jan 1 Buses are being detoured from 8 Av, 7 Av, Broadway and 6th Av between 34th and 57 Sts. Southbound: Buses will make stops along 5th Av at corresponding locations. Northbound: Buses will make stops along Madison Av at corresponding locations. -Please allow additional travel time. Suffice it to say that the buses were not just being detoured from 34th to 57th street and I missed two buses as a result, calling myself waiting at one of the stops along what was supposed to be the regular part of the route. Took me almost two hours to get home by the time I finally caught a bus. I really have a hard time understanding why whoever posts this information is so incompetent that they don't realize that they repeatedly give conflicting information.... In any event, I would be curious to know who is responsible for posting this information on the website?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted January 1, 2013 Share #61 Posted January 1, 2013 Damn, I'd be pissed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 1, 2013 Share #62 Posted January 1, 2013 The real kicker is there was not ONE passenger on any of those buses because in addition to the ridiculous detour information given, all of the buses were running almost 10 minutes early. I know because they eventually showed up on Bus Time once they resumed their normal route and I made sure to note the bus numbers and times and reported it as well because that is just ridiculous. I tried calling the depot to see what was going on and the damn line was busy of course. I got fortunate enough to catch the last bus of the night home otherwise I would've had an even longer commute than just two hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted January 1, 2013 Share #63 Posted January 1, 2013 What kind of shit is that? I can just picture all those people being royally screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 1, 2013 Share #64 Posted January 1, 2013 That's what I said... The bus only made 3 stops along the normal route and none of those stops are big stops either so I can imagine that whoever was waiting in the freezing cold probably just gave up and got a taxi or had to make other arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 1, 2013 Share #65 Posted January 1, 2013 What bullshit. And no extra service was offered, come on MTA, step it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted January 1, 2013 Share #66 Posted January 1, 2013 Did anyone also notice that they used to post the turn-by-turn directions for the bus routes, but a couple months ago they changed it and just say "buses make corresponding stops along ___ "? In some cases it's too vague and doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted January 1, 2013 Share #67 Posted January 1, 2013 I was thinking of taking an EXP bus last night for about 30 seconds before I thought "hey, it's New Years, the buses will be really messed up." The subway ride out of the city was one of the best I've had in a long time, not a single delay. One days like that, the subway is cheaper, faster, and smarter than EXP buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 1, 2013 Share #68 Posted January 1, 2013 I was thinking of taking an EXP bus last night for about 30 seconds before I thought "hey, it's New Years, the buses will be really messed up." The subway ride out of the city was one of the best I've had in a long time, not a single delay. One days like that, the subway is cheaper, faster, and smarter than EXP buses. LOL... That is such a cop out and you know it because they screw up with the subway just the same with inaccurate information. Resorting to another mode of transportation because the can't provide accurate information on the website is not at all logical or possible for some folks. In my case the subway really wasn't an option because streets were shut down so that would've been yet another obstacle course in and of itself. Did anyone also notice that they used to post the turn-by-turn directions for the bus routes, but a couple months ago they changed it and just say "buses make corresponding stops along ___ "? In some cases it's too vague and doesn't make sense. Oh yeah this seems to be the norm now the whole buses making corresponding stop along such and such street. I wrote in and complained about it. If folks like us who use the system and know the system have problems, how do they expect the average rider to figure it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted January 1, 2013 Share #69 Posted January 1, 2013 I was thinking of taking an EXP bus last night for about 30 seconds before I thought "hey, it's New Years, the buses will be really messed up." The subway ride out of the city was one of the best I've had in a long time, not a single delay. One days like that, the subway is cheaper, faster, and smarter than EXP buses. I bet most ppl instead of being screwed looking for the bus did exactly this rather than wait in the cold people are NOT that stupid you know VG8. You should have just did what this guy did. However I truly feel sorry for SI bound folks THEY WERE SCREWED HARDER THAN A screwdriver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted January 1, 2013 Share #70 Posted January 1, 2013 LOL... That is such a cop out and you know it because they screw up with the subway just the same with inaccurate information. Resorting to another mode of transportation because the can't provide accurate information on the website is not at all logical or possible for some folks. In my case the subway really wasn't an option because streets were shut down so that would've been yet another obstacle course in and of itself No it's not a cop out it's called being smart and not sitting in the cold like an idiot clinging to one option. Seriously being attached to one mode is silly and stupid. It's like waiting for a train that has derailed to come when a bus to the same destination is there. Mode bias idiots always get BURNED by crap like this. With me I improvise always. Oh yeah this seems to be the norm now the whole buses making corresponding stop along such and such street. I wrote in and complained about it. If folks like us who use the system and know the system have problems, how do they expect the average rider to figure it out?hmm I wonder it means on the street but at the corner it's not that hard to figure out if you know how to actually read. replies in red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 1, 2013 Share #71 Posted January 1, 2013 replies in red Nobody was clinging to anything... Like I said the streets were SHUT DOWN to reach the subway so my options were to stay on the East Side and pick the option that I thought was easiest for me, which is what I did. Clearly you have a hard time reading. The detour wasn't so much of an issue as it was me missing buses because of them showing up so early. That was the real issue, but I mention the whole detour thing because of how long it was in effect and how many people must've been screwed over by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share #72 Posted January 1, 2013 Cops cannot help you either. They don't know where buses are making detours either. It's just like during Puerto Rican Day Parade or last year's NYC Marathon 2011. I remember during 2011 NYC Marathon, NY Grayline Sightseeing Tour bus was suppose to make left turn from 5th Av to 86th St, but one driver went in the frozen zone, so NYPD Traffic agent had to open the gate to let the tour bus go to 84th St since because transverse rd is height restriction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted January 1, 2013 Share #73 Posted January 1, 2013 LOL... That is such a cop out and you know it because they screw up with the subway just the same with inaccurate information. Resorting to another mode of transportation because the can't provide accurate information on the website is not at all logical or possible for some folks. In my case the subway really wasn't an option because streets were shut down so that would've been yet another obstacle course in and of itself. I've found more innacuracies with the buses than subways over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 1, 2013 Share #74 Posted January 1, 2013 I've found more innacuracies with the buses than subways over the years. Well that would make sense. You see I don't have a problem with detours being inaccurate because of unexpected things. The issue is with planned detours... Those should not be botched up be it on the subway or the bus and often times they are which to me is very troubling. Hell even the dispatchers don't know sometimes... I think what it comes down to is they have people posting information on the website that don't have a clue what they are doing and that applies for the subway and the buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted January 1, 2013 Share #75 Posted January 1, 2013 I've found more innacuracies with the buses than subways over the years. Of course. The subway can only detour as far as the tracks go while buses are more flexible so they can detour via whatever street they fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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