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Question regarding the R160A vs the R160B

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I believe at this point, the R160s with Alstom propulsion are fairing better than the ones with siemens. the reason is that the regenerative brake on the Siemens trains cut out completely at 4 mph, while the alstoms don't cut out till 1 mph. that results in higher brake wear on the siemens cars, which is characterized by the annoyingly loud squealing noise made when the cars stop. this noise is noticably louder on the siemens cars than the alstom cars.

 

to me, there is no real difference when riding the A or B other than that the A's door motors sound awsome, like from a spaceship in star trek or something...

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The R160A is definitely better b/c they are extremely quiet and brake extremely smoothly. The only thing that is plaguing their reputation however is their numerous frozen FIND systems.

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Well, asking what is better won't have one answer because its subjective.

If the question were what do you like better, I'd say the R160B. I love the sound of the Siemens propulsion, and the speedometer is visible on though the crack of the T/O door. I also love the sound when the R160B's doors close. Its silent at first, and then you hear that wonderful *pow* noise.

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I really dislike the braking on the R160B as it makes that squeaking noise like the R46s. I can understand if a train brakes downhill like at Union Turnpike, but the R160Bs brake like that on almost every stop along Broadway.

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Well, asking what is better won't have one answer because its subjective.

If the question were what do you like better, I'd say the R160B. I love the sound of the Siemens propulsion, and the speedometer is visible on though the crack of the T/O door. I also love the sound when the R160B's doors close. Its silent at first, and then you hear that wonderful *pow* noise.

 

I agree with you 100%.

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I love the R160 Siemens than the Alstoms R160A/B. They are cooler to be on and the brakes are great (although I love those squeaky brakes).

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does anybody known where would R160B #9803 - #9942

and which line will it be sent to?. #9803 - #9942

i will be glad to see if #9803 - #9942 go to

(N) , (Q) , (W) line. and all R68 will be removed on (N) , (Q) ,(W)

line. #2782 - #2915 will go to (:P and (D). #2916 - #2924

will stay on Coney Island yard.where would # 9593 - #9802 which line will it be sent Jamaica yard.if so. jamaica will get rid of 100 cars of R32 and sent them Pitkin yard. and there would be chance to see # 9233 - #9802 run on the (R) line also.?

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The R160B and R160A are both nice subway cars, but I like the R160A better.

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does anybody known where would R160B #9803 - #9942

and which line will it be sent to?. #9803 - #9942

i will be glad to see if #9803 - #9942 go to

(N) , (Q) , (W) line. and all R68 will be removed on (N) , (Q) ,(W)

line. #2782 - #2915 will go to (:P and (D). #2916 - #2924

will stay on Coney Island yard.where would # 9593 - #9802 which line will it be sent Jamaica yard.if so. jamaica will get rid of 100 cars of R32 and sent them Pitkin yard. and there would be chance to see # 9233 - #9802 run on the (R) line also.?

 

Those R160B's will most likely go to Jamaica Yard. I don't think Coney Island is getting new cars for a while.

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Both R160A and R160B aren't that different to me, honestly (despite being built by different manufacturers). I like them both equally. The Siemens propulsion on some R160B cars (8843-9102) are really neat.

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I have to admit, the R160Bs sound really cool and accelerate much faster than the R160As (esp. Siemens sets). This makes them extremely appealing to railfans that love to video them running. However in terms of comfort and quietness, the R160As are definitely the way to go!

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does anybody known where would R160B #9803 - #9942

and which line will it be sent to?. #9803 - #9942

i will be glad to see if #9803 - #9942 go to

(N) , (Q) , (W) line. and all R68 will be removed on (N) , (Q) ,(W)

line. #2782 - #2915 will go to (:P and (D). #2916 - #2924

will stay on Coney Island yard.where would # 9593 - #9802 which line will it be sent Jamaica yard.if so. jamaica will get rid of 100 cars of R32 and sent them Pitkin yard. and there would be chance to see # 9233 - #9802 run on the (R) line also.?

 

where are you pulling these numbers out of? (9593-9942)

 

EDIT: never mind, i see. for those confused, option 2 numbers like this:

 

9593-9802: R160A-2

9803-9942: R160B

9943-9974: R160A-1

Edited by Fan Railer
figured it out

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right after 140 cars complete build of R160B.

(NYCT) had purchase 100 cars of R160B?

no one known what rooster car number will be

of 100 cars of R160B that kawasaki going to built.?

 

 

(6) Brooklyn Bridge

(6) Next stop is

(6) Wall street

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right after 140 cars complete build of R160B.

(NYCT) had purchase 100 cars of R160B?

no one known what rooster car number will be

of 100 cars of R160B that kawasaki going to built.?

 

 

(6) Brooklyn Bridge

(6) Next stop is

(6) Wall street

 

huh? thought you were talking about B div equipment...why does the (6) getting rerouted to bowling green and skipping fulton have anything to do w/that?

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does anybody known where would R160B #9803 - #9942

and which line will it be sent to?. #9803 - #9942

i will be glad to see if #9803 - #9942 go to

(N) , (Q) , (W) line. and all R68 will be removed on (N) , (Q) ,(W)

line. #2782 - #2915 will go to (:P and (D). #2916 - #2924

will stay on Coney Island yard.where would # 9593 - #9802 which line will it be sent Jamaica yard.if so. jamaica will get rid of 100 cars of R32 and sent them Pitkin yard. and there would be chance to see # 9233 - #9802 run on the (R) line also.?

They're all going to Jamaica Yard on the (E)(F) lines. They might be seen on the (R) but only as often as the R32/R42 on that line are seen.

right after 140 cars complete build of R160B.

(NYCT) had purchase 100 cars of R160B?

no one known what rooster car number will be

of 100 cars of R160B that kawasaki going to built.?

 

 

(6) Brooklyn Bridge

(6) Next stop is

(6) Wall street

There is no R160 Option III. Those 140 cars of Option II will be the last R160s Kawasaki will make.

huh? thought you were talking about B div equipment...why does the (6) getting rerouted to bowling green and skipping fulton have anything to do w/that?

That's just his sig.

i saying that (MTA) do they have supplement order of R160B

purchase of 100 cars of R160B.

No.

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I'm sorry, but aside from who made them and the propulsion package, what is the difference between an R160A and an R160B? I mean, I don't see any difference in appearance and its almost like saying an R17 with GE equipment is different from one with Westinghouse.

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seeing (MTA) had purchase #8313 - #9974 1,662 R160 cars.

( i think that need to purchase 37 or 38 cars of R160's.

( so it would make it even that (MTA) had completed finish purchase 1,700 cars R160. there plan was to purchase 1,700 cars.the last 37 cars

R160 will be what #30** series? so it will be even that 1,700 cars

have been purchase.

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I'm sorry, but aside from who made them and the propulsion package, what is the difference between an R160A and an R160B? I mean, I don't see any difference in appearance and its almost like saying an R17 with GE equipment is different from one with Westinghouse.

 

Besides different propulsion

1) R160B doors are silent, R160A doors making a whirring sound when closing

2) R160B doors making a *pow* sound when closing, R160A doors do not

3) The R160B's speedometer is visible though the crack of a T/O door, in a R160A its not

4) I never noticed it, but some say the R160A is smoother than the R160B

5) I never noticed it, but some say the R160A is quieter than the R160B

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Both cars ride the same. They are basically the same car, it's just a few extremely minor differences which are not noticable to the average rider (ex - doors).

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So they are really the same car, I mean doesn't every car not just car class have it's own characteristics?

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