ctrain Posted June 12, 2009 Share #1 Posted June 12, 2009 When the opens, what cars classes will they have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 12, 2009 Share #2 Posted June 12, 2009 We don't even know if the will run at all. A wee bit early to start discussing car assignments, i'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 12, 2009 Share #3 Posted June 12, 2009 yeah, the isn't expected to go into service until 2018, and that's an optimistic estimate based on today's economy. and by then, we should have the R179's on property, so it could be a mix of R160/R179. you never know. why don't we lock this topic and revisit it 9 years later lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted June 12, 2009 Share #4 Posted June 12, 2009 There were rumors that the T was going to be entirely R160B since the Q would be entirely R160B and would share its fleet with the Q. I guess that "third option" of the R160Bs would fit in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted June 12, 2009 Share #5 Posted June 12, 2009 This entire topic is a little ridiculous. The cannot run until Phase III of the SAS is done. To put things into perspective, Phase I should be done by 2013-2014. The completion date for Phase I has been moved to a later date very often, so I wouldn't even be surprised if the would not come until 2030 or later. Also, we don't know what yard it is going to use. Moreover, if the comes around 2030, the R68/A's would already be replaced with a much newer fleet, and the R160's would be about 25 years old (and whatever replaced the R44 and R46 would be a little younger than 25). I'm pretty sure they would want to use the newest rolling stock on the , but thats just my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted June 12, 2009 Share #6 Posted June 12, 2009 I will be collecting retirement checks by the time runs if ever at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted June 12, 2009 Share #7 Posted June 12, 2009 I will be collecting retirement checks by the time runs if ever at all. Exactly. The will not be here until 2030 at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Av Posted June 12, 2009 Share #8 Posted June 12, 2009 I'm not sure if the will ever run at all, but it will probably use the R179 rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted June 13, 2009 Share #9 Posted June 13, 2009 This is all I am saying before I stop: The will be based out of Coney Island. The will come at the end of Phase III. Phase I is currently scheduled to finish in 2016. After that Phase II will start, which will likely finish in 2020. Phase III? 2024. 2024 = around the time the R68s will retire, so whatever is replacing the R68/As will likely be what will be used on the . Now let's stop speculating until we have Phase I down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted June 13, 2009 Share #10 Posted June 13, 2009 This is all I am saying before I stop:The will be based out of Coney Island. The will come at the end of Phase III. Phase I is currently scheduled to finish in 2016. After that Phase II will start, which will likely finish in 2020. Phase III? 2024. 2024 = around the time the R68s will retire, so whatever is replacing the R68/As will likely be what will be used on the . Now let's stop speculating until we have Phase I down. we dunno what it will be based out of, nor the Car it will be assigned too. Who knows if it will ever exist, we got to finish up 125th Street so the Could maybe get in... For now this topic is very useless.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyhero59 Posted June 13, 2009 Share #11 Posted June 13, 2009 The will be based out of Coney Island. I think the will be based out of Jamaica yard because they are planning to build a non-revenue track to connect to the IND 63rd Street line so the can have direct and closer access to the Yard at Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted June 13, 2009 Share #12 Posted June 13, 2009 The connection is there already. We may still not know what yard it is based out of. It could be a shared route between Jamaica Yard and Coney Island, since the and the WILL share tracks and the comes out of Coney Island Yard Facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted June 13, 2009 Share #13 Posted June 13, 2009 The connection is there already. We may still not know what yard it is based out of. It could be a shared route between Jamaica Yard and Coney Island, since the and the WILL share tracks and the comes out of Coney Island Yard Facilities. No, he meant a connection south of 63rd St to the 63rd St Tunnel. Since phase 3 of the 2nd Avenue line doesn't exist yet, the connection wouldn't exist either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted June 13, 2009 Share #14 Posted June 13, 2009 I'm hopeful the Second Avenue Subway will be built and that the will run. My hope is tempered by seeig the SAS started in the 1970's and never finished. If it had, the and might be running Second Avenue today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted June 13, 2009 Share #15 Posted June 13, 2009 By the time the is complete, there will likely be a new train car that will run along its length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawasaki3 Posted June 27, 2009 Share #16 Posted June 27, 2009 i heared in 2006 that (NYCT) wanted ( 2nd Avenue Line ( if 2nd avenue line ever exist at all)? to base out Jamiaca yard and base out of coney Island yard. will see if 2015 or 2018 if 2nd Avenue Line line ever exist at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbirdbassist Posted June 28, 2009 Share #17 Posted June 28, 2009 It wouldn't make sense for it to be based out of CI. Look how far away it is and what an OOS would have to do to get to Coney Island as apposed to Jamaica once Phase III is complete. C'mon guys, use your brain. It's pretty obvious what the logical answer to the OP's question is, however since people love speculation and things that don't make sense... there's no point in going over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted June 28, 2009 Share #18 Posted June 28, 2009 It wouldn't make sense for it to be based out of CI. Look how far away it is and what an OOS would have to do to get to Coney Island as apposed to Jamaica once Phase III is complete. C'mon guys, use your brain. It's pretty obvious what the logical answer to the OP's question is, however since people love speculation and things that don't make sense... there's no point in going over this. Remember that the and would share the same northern terminal. Would that factor into your decision at all? The doesn't come close to Coney Island either, but it's based out of CI because it shares its northern terminal with the . Couldn't they do something similar with the and ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted June 28, 2009 Share #19 Posted June 28, 2009 All I'm going to say is that there will be a connection at 63rd street for 2nd ave subway to enter the Queens blvd line. hence we could say that it would be using JYD. But maybe not. But we don't know anything for sure, so why make assumptions as if we know for sure what we are talking about? A lot of the posters here are so sure of themselves as if they know what's going to happen 20-30 years from now when we see the . We will not know the conditions of the subway in 30 years. Therefore we cannot assume where the will be based out of. But what I will say is that around the time the should be in service, the R68/A's will be retiring and a new car will be coming to replace them. The R160's will be 20-30 years old, and if the R179's come in the next few years, they'd be in their high teens/low-20's. I'd assume they would want to use the newest rolling stock for the , so the R68/A's replacements would most likely run on the . That's just how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman Posted June 28, 2009 Share #20 Posted June 28, 2009 The only way you'll be able to ride the is to go to Boston. Don't hold your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted June 28, 2009 Share #21 Posted June 28, 2009 Remember that the and would share the same northern terminal. Would that factor into your decision at all? The doesn't come close to Coney Island either, but it's based out of CI because it shares its northern terminal with the . Couldn't they do something similar with the and ? This is the center of where my logic is coming from. In addition to that, if the trains get the next generation of New Technology Trains, so will the . After all, some train swapping may occur in the event that a train needs to be taken out of service on one line, and into service on another. However, we will have to wait and see when the and portion of the line finishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted June 28, 2009 Share #22 Posted June 28, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.5; en-us; T-Mobile G1 Build/CRB43) AppleWebKit/528.5+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Mobile Safari/525.20.1) When the first segment of the opens, it will probably be only to 34th or 42nd (whatever that next stop below the connection is. And then after that, 14th. So it will still be more of a branch of the , and have a very small fleet. So it will probably at that time just share with the . When it becomes the full length line, then it would probably have a separate fleet based from Jamaica. It could be either, as there were plans to expand either Jamaica OR CIYD for Second Av. Though it seems the space that was considered in CI is having something else done with it; not sure what. The best thing would have been the idea to gain a section of Sunnyside yard, which would be close to the line, as well as storing cars from other nearby midtown lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted June 28, 2009 Share #23 Posted June 28, 2009 When the opens, what cars classes will they have? IF the ever actually happens it won't be for at least 10 more years so it is impossible to even speculate anything about the line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted June 28, 2009 Share #24 Posted June 28, 2009 IF the ever actually happens it won't be for at least 10 more years so it is impossible to even speculate anything about the line! 10 years? hahah thats funny! For the to come Phase III has to be done. Phase I is supposed to be done in 2015, if things go to schedule, which probably won't happen. And they might not even start Phase II right after Phase I, so forget about the for a while. I'd say we would see the by 2050 the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted June 28, 2009 Share #25 Posted June 28, 2009 Is the T even needed south of 63rd St. I can understand that the Lexington is horrible north of 63rd St, but south of it feels just as fine as 6th Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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