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None were they were built in 2012 on a deprecate note 7866-7876 pitkin to corona as of today.

Almost 2 years old and just entering service in the last 2-3 months.   Only 2 trains were running today.   7811-7821 which I passed twice and 7833-7843 which I was on.  Saw 7822-7832 in the Corona Yard.   Another R188 train was there and with no lit  "7".  Probably was 7844-7854, which someone posted is still in burn testing.  I wasn't able to see any numbers.

Between this and that long-winded F transfer at 59 St, the next stop announcement, the part most passengers care about, is cut off a lot because they're too damn long.

 

Just felt I should say something.

There are about 5 posts already pertaining to this.  What does this have to do with the R188's?   We have plenty of discussion about R62A's being transferred also, but it atleast is somewhat on the topic concerning the swapping of ex-R142A's.   Don't get mad, but could we please stay on topic?  Thanks

Like I said in an earlier post: Why is everyone going crazy trying to catch the R188? Within this year the   will be mostly R188s. Catch your last few glimpses of the R62A. They won't be around for much longer. The R188 will eventually be an everyday thing. You don't have to worry about it right now.

It will be all R188's, but some will be converted R142A's (the oldest ones already existing for 12 years) modified as R188's.  I think the reason everyone wants to ride them now is while they are still new.   I will say one thing, R188's or R142A's, they are roomier than the R62A's and without the dipped seating.  The   is a heavy traffic line and needs these.   While the Lexington Ave. line is probably heavier, but remember it's a trunk line (3 routes).

Do people even notice that the old trains are taking over?

Do you think the average subway rider (a.k.a. commuter), really cares?   Most don't look at what the train is, they are so involved in their phones (calling, texting), reading and don't pay any attention to even what other passengers are doing unless someone creates a scene.   Their only concern is that they get on the correct train and get to where they want to go and hopefully with no delay.  The R142's are so dirty now, so I doubt most are complaining unless they have to maybe stand.   Also, who are they going to complain to?  Most don't want to be on the subway, and they're happy when they are finally off and out of the subway.

IIRC when the trains first arrive, they don't have the shoes that will give them power thru third rail. They have to head to Pitkin (supposedly where 7855-7859 were heading) to get those shoes. That's why the car was pitch black on the inside.

OK, that makes sense.   I recall reading earlier posts here that additional parts are added in Brooklyn.   From Pitkin, the cars are then tested in the Rockaways??  then to the   for burn testing, before being put into service. 

Just curious to why 7855-7859 had to be towed by locomotives?  A 5-car set can't operate on it's own power or must it have the other 6 cars?

Note the old "M Transit" emblem on the rear yellow locomotive.

Speaking of the R142A conversion set (7211-7220), that supposedly is out of service... according to NYCSubway.org, that was the first train on the   to be tested in July 2000.  No wonder the photos taken, show a dirty train as it is hard to believe it's 13 years old.  The one "C" car makes the rest of the train an eyesore.  Also, everyone speaks of the braking noise.  Obviously, the   yard (is that Parkchester?) doesn't treat it's equipment too kindly.   Let's see how many of the circle/diamond roll sign lights still work on the R62A's, in a couple of years.

atleast 3 sets were running this afternoon.   7811-7821 (rode), 7822-7832 and 7833-7843 (rode).   The 2 trains I rode were only separated by 1 R-62A train.  7822-7832 was going the other way and passed both of the others.

Seems like the crew for the   still don't know how to use the R188s...

You would've thought that employees/crew that work on the  , would have been trained on the new equipment.  Maybe only the motormen get training, but the conductors don't.

They're finally giving 7811-7821 a break. Only 7822-7832 was running today.

Anyway, there were 3 R188's that I spotted in the yard. There was one running in service, now IIRC, there are 5 sets of R188's. That means one set isn't on the , maybe the conversion set?

Have you noticed how dirty 7811-7821 now have become?   The weather (snow) has partly to do with it, but the cars definitely look used.   I haven't noticed the shoe marks under the windows on the doors yet and it will come in time, once the cars are in service for a while.   Passengers who usually stand for the duration of their trip, very often lean against the closed doors and place there shoe sole on one door. Very noticable on the R142/143/160's.   It's ashame that many people can't respect property or space that isn't their own.   They simply don't care... most don't want to really be on the subway.

I don't think those cars in the 2000 range are going to the (I can be wrong) i know the remaining singles are not, the single cars its unknown where they'll end up at, it seems that they're not converting those half cabs at the other end, once all the 1700/1800 are gone off the   it looks like the RFW end of those cars will face the flushing side again until they're moved out of corona

Referring to the R62A singles, which currently make up the 11-car trains on the  .   Where were the singles used before the the Redbird R36's/R-33S's were retired from   service?   If all mainline IRT lines only run 10-car trains, were the singles coupled together as a trains?

It seems quite unusual that singles were ordered at a time back in the early 80's, when the   wasn't even a consideration and I know atleast one train was tested back then on the  , but returned back to the mainline IRT.   It probably wasn't an 11-car train anyway.

It was definitely 7844-7854 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I took the 7 back to 33rd Street (R62A) from Times Square and the following (next) train in Times Square was an R62A.

When I got off at 33rd Street, as I was on the street and practically back to my car (5:15PM).  There was an R188 in the station (Flushing-bound) doors closed and I was wondering which set.   As it started to pull out, saw 7844, also saw 7850.  This was that set probably burn testing.  Where it actually came from, I don't know, because the next train out of TS was an R62A and I noticed on my trip more R62A's heading towards TS.  In other words, where did the R188 come from unless it switched over from the BMT at Queensborough Plaza.

Honestly, there are R188's everywhere.   Aren't there some @ Coney Island yard?  The first set was @ East 180 St. yard because of the testing on the Dyre Ave. line.   I'm curious how much mileage these cars already have by the time they finally reach the tracks for passengers use?   Are all the sets going through this vigorous testing?  Wouldn't it make sense to have everything done at one facility?  Parts get installed in Brooklyn.   I'm surprised the Corona yard couldn't have been set up to do this.   The last new cars ordered for the Flushing Line were the

R-33WF (singles) and R-36WF (married pairs).  Anyone know if back in 1963-4 when these cars were delivered from St. Louis Car, if they went through all these tests?

They had to quickly be placed in service for the opening of the New York World's Fair, in April 1964.

There is no bug. There really is no time to program the train as trains are typically in and out at Times Square. In all honesty the arriving conductor should preset it as the train is approaching Times Square to help save time.

Too bad there isn't something more automated/computerized.  As a train enters the last stop, all displays reset.   Probably, way too technical and expensive, but hey in a year or two it will be CBTC.

I'll say this... the system is getting more and more technical and maybe it's not a bad thing, but when something malfuctions it will be a big mess.   For instance, Metrocard Vending Machines... they sometimes don't take change or don't take cash period, and there is no clerk around.

R188 is now mismatched for some reason, 7811-7815 was paired to 7822-7833

7811-7821 were running together today.  There obviously is a problem (bug) as the R188s leave Times Sq., no announcements/unlit strip map except for Times Sq. blinking and "Last Stop" blinking on side window and overhead LED interior displays.  As the train enters Grand Central, strip map resets with announcement Next Stop, 5th Avenue.  Everything synchronizes by the time the train gets to Hunters Point.

the conductor in the middle of the train, announced the stops until everything was normal.

R188 is now mismatched for some reason, 7811-7815 was paired to 7822-7833

a 16 car train?

R62As on the have already started getting strip maps on them and here is one of them 

what a dirty ceiling.. they don't even clean up the 62A's, when they transfer them back.

But then where would the R62As go? Those are still in good shape. If those R62s were old then yeah they would get all R188s

The worst R62A's, or are they R62's are on the 3

Why didn't the MTA just order R188's for the Flushing Line and leave the R142A's alone.  This is the first time they've taken newer cars and converted them.   Conversions/modifications previously were only done to renovate old equipment. R11 to R34, modifying old BRT gate cars to Q's, modifying R32's, R38's, R40's and slants, R42, etc.  The apparently didn't have the money

It's funny the reaction of some people, who get on and are used to the ordinary R62A, and are surprised by a shiny new train and which smells new.  Most passengers don't care, as they'd rather not be on the subway or just get wherever they're going.   Then you compare them to the R142's on the Lex., which have become dirty.  Tunnel dust and just grime from passengers.

it seem like it not added to avoid money on 34 street stop

 

I noticed the diagonal black covering the 34th Street info.  It's visible with all the bright light

I was on the same train! I was in 7822! He started skipping through announcements between GC and Vernon Blvd. It was at 3:30.

I was in the first car, which I believe was 7832?, I think, because I saw the motorman quickly walk in the train, open the cab and hang up his jacket, close his door, shut the doors and off we went.

 I rode on R188 train, 7822-7832 today and everything ran well except the return from Times Square.  The motorman proceeded out of TS with the Last Stop sign blinking and strip map unlit.  Shortly, before entering GC, it activated with the announcement "The Next Stop is "5th Avenue".  By Hunters Point, everything was synchronized.

Just saw R188 7823-7834 on the This morning, It had its signs all set up (To times square), But no passengers as it was entering stations, So I assume they were testing it?

I passed over the Corona Yard boardwalk yesterday around 5pm. and 7811-7821 were on track 53.   Didn't see any other R188's there unless they are being stored inside.  The roll doors were all shut on the building.