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Just going to post this in general for anyone:

 

OVERTIME SLIP BASICS

Anything that is on the payroll already you do not have to fill out an overtime slip for.

-If your job starts at one location and ends at another, and deadhead is built in you do not need to fill out a slip (Tip: look at the clearing location and time, underneath the signout time will be the time you are actually paid until).

-If your job is a penalty job, you do not have to fill out a late clear for the penalty.

 

LATE CLEARS

Late clears are simple. Code 40 for the amount you worked extra, in the comments just indicate why - customer interference with doors, held by track gangs, flagging, rerouted via local track, congestion, track circuit, signal problems, switch problems, sick passenger, police investigation...there are a million reasons to be late, and in the comments write your reasons.

 

Other scenarios: If you stay late to do a layup (after your clearing time) just write extra layup, if you stay late to work switching, just write worked balance of switching job ###.

 

I have a question about late clears. I see that theres a code for Late Clear for a G.O. Im assuming you use that if your clearing later than your relief time, if you clear later because of a G.O. going on, and you would put that G.O. number in the comments?

Just going to post this in general for anyone:

 

OVERTIME SLIP BASICS

 

BEING ON THE BOARD

If you are on the board, and pick up a whole job - for purposes of the slip, your "job" is the job you picked up, and your start and end times should match the job you picked up. The time you signed onto the board until the time the job starts is your BOARD TIME (code 46).

 

Example: Report 1300 for extra board. Pick up job 3xx from 1400 to 2200. Your job on the slip is 3xx from 1400 to 2200. Code 46 for 1300-1400 (60 mins OT + 30 mins Bonus). Always leave night diff blank, timekeeping will do it. Comments: Reported 1300 for extra board & picked up job 3xx.

 

If you are on the board, and pick up part of a job - for purposes of the slip, your "job" is the board job, and your start and end times should match your board report, and your board report + 8 hours. Anything beyond that is a LATE CLEAR (code 40). If the part of the job you work finishes before 8 hours after your report time, you still have to stay at your board location to sign out.

 

Example #1: Report 1300 for extra board. Pick up the first trip of job 3xx which works 1745-0145. You finish your half of the job at 2130. Your job on the slip is your board job from 1300-2100. You're entitled to a late clear for 2100-2130.

 

Example #2: Report 1300 for extra board. Pick up job 2xx halfway through which works from 1000-1800. Your job is your board job (let's call it 601) from 1300-2100. You're not entitled to any pay (unless you got a no lunch) because from 1800-2100 you still have boost time.

 

 

Hope this helps!

I have a question. I was on board at 1 location, and picked up part of a job at another location. By what your saying, I reported at 0500, and picked up last 2 trips of job 2xx at another location. So that means I wouldnt be putting job 2xx on the ot slip, I would be putting the board job on the slip? Where do I find the board job, I didnt know they had job numbers. First time ive been in a situation like this

I have an OT question. I was on board at a location and picked up a job at that same location. I was handing my OT slip before I went out, and the dispatcher was looking at it funny. Confused cuz of a supplement, the there is an early report, so I added that in. He said because I was on board I didnt have to put the early report cuz I'd still get paid if I put the board time without the ER, if I put the board with the original report time. Does it make a difference?

I know i had a classmate have a rejected OT slip sent to her home. 

I see it this way,sometimes you just gotta ask then..... Don't always expect folks to volunteer info esp on certain lines where it's hectic a lot. They worrying about the railroad and who signs in not if the job pays OTor not.

Oh i ask questions a lot. But it was more of something that i didnt know thats how it worked, until like 2 days later. 

in regards to posting, any good dispatcher will tell you at the time you sign on if you're particular job is finishing later than 8 hours.  Then you'll need the slip. Also a quick look at the payroll of the person you're working with will tell you this information.

I only had one of them tell me on the 7 Line in the AMs do that

Try a Track worker named Boggs. He was killed at 59st. on the Broadway line a few years back following procedures that after review like you said were changed.

 

Crazy thing about this, i was a passenger on that 3 train in the first car when this incident happened. 

Call the IVR use yer pass and last four of your social you have up to two weeks before the holiday to save it.

Thanks

How do you save a holiday worked as an AVA?

I've had partners that give me the sad face because I don't want to go claim 5 +3 with them. Smh I personally will not waste 10 extra minutes of my time to get paid for 5mins. Not worth it to me, especially if the office is a walk away. Anything less than 10 minutes late clear is for the good of the service to me . 10 mins or better, I'll go fill one out. Sometimes 15 mins or better is my minimum.

One T/O told me he carries his slips with him. Any thing that delays him on the road, he fills it in going back. Train congestion at 96th, held at a station by control 116th, heavy ridership at 42nd, terminal congestion at pelham or whatever it may be. So that way when he actually goes into the office, all he does is fill out the clearing time and the numbers, and he's out quick.

Yes it does add up but I don't drive. As soon as I dump I'm on the next thing outta the terminal. If I have time til the next interval leaves I'll go fill one out. By all means everyone should claim all time worked. This way they can adjust these work programs so were not always getting late clears. I ALWAYS fill out one for the 1 line no matter how many minutes. You earned it on that line.

I do that on the 6 line. So many things always happen on that line, i always end up going back out as soon as i come in, so if i have a late clear for 5 mins, i put it in. Those times add up for 2 weeks. 

Just going to post this in general for anyone:

 

OVERTIME SLIP BASICS

Anything that is on the payroll already you do not have to fill out an overtime slip for.

-If your job starts at one location and ends at another, and deadhead is built in you do not need to fill out a slip (Tip: look at the clearing location and time, underneath the signout time will be the time you are actually paid until).

-If your job is a penalty job, you do not have to fill out a late clear for the penalty.

 

LATE CLEARS

Late clears are simple. Code 40 for the amount you worked extra, in the comments just indicate why - customer interference with doors, held by track gangs, flagging, rerouted via local track, congestion, track circuit, signal problems, switch problems, sick passenger, police investigation...there are a million reasons to be late, and in the comments write your reasons.

 

Other scenarios: If you stay late to do a layup (after your clearing time) just write extra layup, if you stay late to work switching, just write worked balance of switching job ###.

 

BEING ON THE BOARD

If you are on the board, and pick up a whole job - for purposes of the slip, your "job" is the job you picked up, and your start and end times should match the job you picked up. The time you signed onto the board until the time the job starts is your BOARD TIME (code 46).

 

Example: Report 1300 for extra board. Pick up job 3xx from 1400 to 2200. Your job on the slip is 3xx from 1400 to 2200. Code 46 for 1300-1400 (60 mins OT + 30 mins Bonus). Always leave night diff blank, timekeeping will do it. Comments: Reported 1300 for extra board & picked up job 3xx.

 

If you are on the board, and pick up part of a job - for purposes of the slip, your "job" is the board job, and your start and end times should match your board report, and your board report + 8 hours. Anything beyond that is a LATE CLEAR (code 40). If the part of the job you work finishes before 8 hours after your report time, you still have to stay at your board location to sign out.

 

Example #1: Report 1300 for extra board. Pick up the first trip of job 3xx which works 1745-0145. You finish your half of the job at 2130. Your job on the slip is your board job from 1300-2100. You're entitled to a late clear for 2100-2130.

 

Example #2: Report 1300 for extra board. Pick up job 2xx halfway through which works from 1000-1800. Your job is your board job (let's call it 601) from 1300-2100. You're not entitled to any pay (unless you got a no lunch) because from 1800-2100 you still have boost time.

 

DEADHEAD (TRAVEL TIME)

If you clear somewhere other than where you started, you are entitled to deadhead. Add deadhead at the very end of the job, when you sign out, after any late clears.

 

Example #1: Report 1300 for extra board. Pick up job 3xx at a different location from 1400 to 2200. Your job on the slip is 3xx from 1400 to 2200. Code 46 for 1300-1400 (60 mins OT + 30 mins Bonus). If travel time is 24 minutes between where you reported for board and where the job actually clears, add Deadhead (Code 49) for 2200 to 2224 (24 minutes OT + 12 minutes Bonus). Again leave night diff blank, timekeeping will do it. Comments: Reported 1300 at Location #1 for extra board & picked up job 3xx which clears at Location #2, added travel time.

 

Example #2: Report 1300 for extra board. Pick up job 3xx at a different location from 1400 to 2200 and arrived late on last trip due to flagging at 2206. Your job on the slip is 3xx from 1400 to 2200. Code 46 (Extra Board) for 1300-1400 (60 mins OT + 30 mins Bonus). Late clear (Code 40) for 2200-2206 (6 mins OT + 3 mins Bonus). If travel time is 24 minutes between where you reported for board and where the job actually clears, add Deadhead (Code 49) for 2206 to 2230 (24 minutes OT + 12 minutes Bonus). Again leave night diff blank, timekeeping will do it. Comments: Reported 1300 at Location #1 for extra board & picked up job 3xx. Made xxxx interval out of Opposite Terminal and arrived at Location #2 at 2206 due to flagging at Station. Added travel time.

 

I made up the numbers above. Always use the deadhead charts to figure out what your travel time is.

 

BACKING OUT BOOST TIME

If your job works less than 8 hours and has boost time (IE no WAA on the schedule card), you must deduct the boost time from your overtime slip since you cannot be double paid.

 

Example: Work job 3xx, which works from 1500-2257. Arrive late on last trip at 2305. Your job on the slip is the job, start time 1500, end time 2257. You get a code 40 for late clear, from 2257-2305 but your overtime is 5 minutes + 3 minutes bonus since you are only eligible to be paid overtime for any time after 2300, since 2300 is 8 hours from the start of your day.

 

NO LUNCH

You are entitled to a no lunch if your scheduled lunch is cut to 19 minutes or less. Code 39, and use the times of your lunch in the From / To boxes. Pay is 30 minutes BONUS only (no overtime). In the comments, write the reason and note the times for your no lunch - IE: made 1551 Flatbush -> 241 and arrived at 1758 with scheduled lunch until 1816 (18 minutes for lunch).

 

On a yard or station switching job, if you were on a move between your 3rd and 6th hour, hours 3-6 are your lunch hours, still 30 minutes BONUS only pay, and in the comments note that you were on a move for the entirety of that window. IE Comments: Washed train at 239th St. Yard and brought back to Livonia Yard, was on the train between 3rd and 6th hour.

 

BREAKING IN STUDENT

Two hours pay (Bonus) for the day. Be sure to write the student's name and pass in the comments. Time From / To is the whole job.

 

WORKING AN RDO

Always 8 hours OT plus 4 hours Bonus. Time From / To is the whole job (even if it's a penalty job since you will automatically get time a half for anything over 8 hours, so this is why you are only putting 8 plus 4...the rest of your overtime is already built into the job!). Do your slip for working an RDO when you sign IN, not when you sign out...it is OK to submit multiple overtime slips throughout the day.

 

EXTRA TRIP

If you make an extra trip - an extra trip has to begin after your clearing time, otherwise if you are on WAA it is NOT an extra trip! - you are entitled to 4 hours pay (bonus). The difference between your clearing time and the extra trip is "waiting time" - make sure you add this in first also as it is part of continuous time.

 

If you are posting:

If you are referring to posting, what the dispatcher SHOULD do is put your time from the time it says on your posting paper. So if it says report to E180 at 1310 hrs., he should sign you in as REPORT E180 1310 RELIEF E180 2110.

 

Now when you fill out your slip, your overtime will be a late clear for anything after 2110. So if you post on a job that clears at 2130, you get 20+10 late clear (code 40). If you post on a job that clears at 2130 and incurs a late clear to 2140, you get 30+15 late clear (still code 40). When posting, ALWAYS put in any deadhead, even if the job you are posting on has it built in as it will be built in for your trainer, NOT YOU! Remember, deadhead goes after any late clears. So if you post on a job that clears somewhere else at 2130 and incurs a late clear to 2140, you still get a 30+15 late clear (code 40) from 2110 to 2140, and (making up 24 minutes travel time again) 24+12 deadhead (code 49) from 2140 to 2204.

 

If you handle posting this way (and most good dispatchers will do it this way), you should have no problems getting paid. For comments always note that the time you signed on was as instructed on the posting papers, that you posted on job # xxx, and that the job clears at such and such time.

 

Hope this helps!

Thanks, this was good info. When i was posting, there were 2 occasions where my report time didnt match with who i was posting with and there report time. it was about 15 mins. But being that you're new and still in the learning phase, it didnt hit me till the end of the week. I had another classmate of mine wait for about an hour before someone took him. What i normally do is if we have a late clear, i pretty much write the same thing as my T/O