Sparen of Iria

Apparently I can't edit my own posts, so here's an update.

This version should be complete, and fixed some issues from before. There may still be other issues. 

I've also made versions of this map with long term service patterns and weekend service patterns. I may post them later depending on how many other mistakes I find.

5 hours ago, Union Tpke said:

Structural work has required  trains to make those two stops. Unrelated to the Sea Beach work.

Ah, OK. Then given the MTA it could be completed anytime in the next fifteen years.

I'm wondering what to do about 45/53 being served by the  on the NYC map I'm making as I assumed it was related to the Sea Beach closures. I checked the MTA website a little while ago and the July 2019 system map shows the  stopping at 45th and 53rd. Don't know if this is intentional or a mistake.

Hi everyone. It's been like 4-5 years since I last visited this forum, and some ancient members may remember me from service disruption rerouting challenges and the like.

Way back then I was working on a map of the NYC Subway system in SVG, and it fell through due to self-imposed guidelines resulting in incredibly painful processes.

Now I'm finishing up a brand new map and I'm looking for some feedback - in particular, what errors are present.

The map I currently have shows weekday service only, and I haven't added Airtrain stations or backgrounds where station names cover other lines, etc. 

In addition, Central Nassau might get its own map and I didn't have space to cram everything to Babylon on the map, so I've done some cutoffs at Nassau County.

All feedback is appreciated before I finalize the map and (maybe) create a version for Weekend service.

Aside from the delays, Bombardier makes a hell of a train.

Well, whenever it's not structurally deficient, yeah.

It would be nice if 116 St was actually made with three tracks. That way, if a Bronx extension ever happens, you can split either the northbound and onto different tracks and allow for more effective cross-platform transfers

Hey, I expected Hudson Yards to be open before I graduated from High School. It opened two years later. :|

Oh joy. Homeless people will now stink up 5 cars instead of just 1. I’m sure everyone here has experienced this once: a homeless person stinking up a car so much that it stays empty for the entire run.

At the very least, people will be able to move between cars.

I really think they should use a large LCD display for the roll sign (in the position of the MTA logo) and replace the current roll sign with a destination indicator such as the ones found in nearly every other transit system.

That way, commuters will be able to tell which train it is, and terminal information will be available on the front as well.

It would also make it easier for the cars to be used on the SIR, if they do in fact go there, because SIR doesn't really have a use for the small NYC bullets.

I was referring to the Manhattan side, but w/e

Or the other option would be to have the line go elevated after the portion already built (with a portal at the end of that) and go to an elevated station at 125/2nd and then over a bridge to get to The Bronx, where the line would remain elevated over the former 3rd Avenue El route.

Please let's not remove three lanes of a major New York City avenue right before two bridge approaches.

Hopefully the voltage change in the Rockaways (if that's still a thing) won't fry the test train.

Personally, I find the down the IND Fulton to be the best option. It's the original plan (I think?) and will do much good for a growing population along that corridor. It will also send the to Lefferts, and will improve headways along the entire line.

If anything, I doubt we'll see a beautiful (I) bullet at the top...

NYCSubway.org may be horribly outdated but stuff like that should probably be accurate... I assume.

I have a feeling that building Phase 3 first will prevent DeKalb from exploding when the goes to what, 19 TPH. However, it would be an inconvenience to those in East Harlem, especially since it shouldn't actually be that hard to get it to 116th St.

Phase 4, however, is the *ugly* phase, because you're tunneling under Lower Manhattan, with its non-uniform street grid, buried historical objects, and whatever other problems there are.

What are the details of the law that forces potential rail-car makers to have plants in New York? Can certain parts be made elsewhere in the country? What are the legal and technical limits of the law, and are there any workarounds that would allow the MTA to use other railcar makers?

Yes, I suppose you're more or less correct...  That's why I said Wikipedia follows, not leads. When I myself used to edit there, both Union Tpke and I tend to make sure/discuss with the mods/admins of that site that every info should be up to/are up to date on that site.

...Except that I was referring to the MTA's website, not Wikipedia...

Unfortunately, you are fully correct...Wikipedia doesn't report the news, it follows. Whereas the 's official website is the bible.

A bible full of formatting errors, typos, and horribly outdated information, as well as a less-than amazing user interface.

South Ferry was definitely far more sterile than Hudson Yards. The Architecture, lighting, and overall feel had more variety. 

South Ferry was, in my opinion, even more sterile than the super sterile Chinese metro stations.

honestly since there is a lot of redevelopment in the phase two are an elevated line might not be too bad as long is it done correctly. Meaning they do everything they can to reduce noise. If the MTA even gets lucky, they could have a station inside a building that built over second ave or something and the people building that build the building would pay for the station.

There's no place to build a portal without reducing 2 Av by like 3-4 lanes. That won't go so well. Additionally, this is East Harlem we're talking about. At the moment, I don't believe there are people who are willing to swallow a few hundred million dollars to integrate an elevated station into a building.

Anyways, the most logical cutback would be to make 116 the terminal and just not deal with the portion to 125th. It would save the tunnel boring portion of the project and the underpinning/station work for 125th.

#Lex53brokenescalator

I just wish someone would fund Phase 2.

Is it just me or is there a wider gap at 14 St with the R62A's other then the R142A's?

Are you referring to the gap btwn the platform and the train?

But The MTA knew the 62As would end up back on the in 2008, why do you think the LEDs are green cirlcles and Red diamonds? (The is purple not green)

Uh... because the standard LED sets contain Red, Orange, and Green? And besides, they're used to mark Express vs. Local service.