TimDaEmeraldWizard

17 hours ago, jass said:

Don't you think it's odd to offer an express service that takes longer than the local? You don't see anything wrong with this?

While the 361 does spend more time on Springfield, it does so without stopping - hence the express. It also take a single right turn instead of two left and two right turns on the regular route.

I have ridden both routes and the 361 is always faster. Do you have any experience on the route that says otherwise?

I used the 361 every morning for the first half of my high school year this year, and I can tell you that it is MUCH slower than the normal local #1. Most of the time when I used 361, the driver did not allow anyone to board or discharge past 18th Avenue and 13th Street until the bus got to MLK Blvd, and the bus would still be late for it's Penn Station arrival time. It gets held up a lot due to the traffic along Springfield Avenue, and sometimes the first 361 trips (7:16 AM and 7:23 AM, both trips that start straight from the garage) do not operate, causing the next trips to be overcrowded, making the trip even slower. It became so bad that I stopped using 361 in the morning. I use the 7:13 #1 that goes to River Terminal. It rarely overcrowds, and arrives to Downtown Newark on time. As a matter of fact, the 361 that leaves at 7:16 and my bus arrive at Springfield and Irvine Turner at the same time most of the time because of how slow 361 can be.

 

As for the afternoon 361 trips, the issue is very similar. Most of my trips, the driver does not allow pickups or drop-offs until 18th and 13th Streets, and the bus still gets caught up in Springfield Avenue traffic. The #1 local that leaves about 2 minutes earlier from Penn Station gets to 18th Avenue and Grove Street quicker than the 361 does.

The NJ Transit 2017 Annual Report stated that the remaining 290 commuter coach units on the order will be 40-foot.

With the Greenville situation, Meadowlands gave them those units to assist them with the "Summer of Hell." I have been seeing several Orange units on the 62 lately.

 

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Any word on the artics replacement bid yet?

On the NJT 2016 Annual Report, they stated they are creating specs for the artic replacements.

 

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So, when will the first batch end? 

Just Now On MyBusNow #5242 Is On The 1

That is normal. When a 1 breaks down in Jersey City, they send a Greenville bus.

 

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Us (Lakeland)

Okay, and I think they might get them in April. The 2017 FY wouldn't have ended by then. So would transit continue with the 17000 bus numbers, or begin the 18000 early?

 

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I wonder which garage will get their buses next.

17023 has moved to Suburban.

 

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It's time for The Transit Man to start padding his stats. All the buses for Community are on their way in if they all haven't arrived on the property yet. ShortLine and Saddle River have their D4500CTs as seen on Facebook via Randy Puello. Next up is Suburban Transit. Anyone know the full roster numbers that have arrived or are slated to arrive, please post. Thanks

Community Coach: 17001 to 17023

Shoreline: 17024 to 17038 as of now.

 

I saw Saddle with 17063 and 17064 recently but I heard rumors of them getting up to 17070.

 

I saw suburban with 17053 and 17054. Keep an eye out on em' pal.

 

 

 

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Has anyone got any info on how the Mass MCI order is coming along? Last I knew from lurking on FB, ShortLine got theirs.

 

 

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Shoreline has 17024 to 17038 currently while Community has 17001 to 17023. I saw some photos of suburban getting some buses, but just stay on the look out.

 

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While Hilton Garage is short on buses, they lend Suburbans to the mess that is the 126 line during rush hour.

Here A Forum Where You Can Talk About Your Favorite NJT Routes. Especially The Howell I Hear The Drivers There Haul Some Serious Ass. So Here Some Of My Favorites

 

#5 #70. It's Pretty Fast On Washington St (Penn Station Bound) While The #39 (Penn Station Bound Also) Stops At Every Single Stop Along Broad St (Except For W Kinney St) But Just Like The #39 The #70 Is Infrequent But Not As Packed As The #39. Also I Only Take Both Routes From Penn Station To Astor St. I Haven't Took It All The Way To Livingston Mall

 

#4 #80. Even Though I Only Rode The #80 From Journal Square To Exchange Place But I Like The #80 Because It Come Very Frequent Possibly Because It's Near The PATH And The PATH Is Very Frequent and Crowded Too. It's Also A Nice Tour Around Jersey City. An Honorable Mention Goes To The #87 Just Like The #80 It's Very Frequent and A Nice Alternative To Get For Journal Square To Hoboken.

 

#3 #1. Now I Rode The #1 A Few Times Now. And It's Very Good To Say The Least. Now The #1 Goes In Three Sections Euclid Av, Journal Square and Exchange Place. It's Kinda Like The Greenville Garage Routes Cause It's Come Frequent But Not As Frequent As Greenville (Even Though It's An Hilton Route) I Just Wish Want Something Happening To The PATH Like Signal Probelms Usually Near Journal Square. The #1 Should Have Extra Service From Journal Square Probably Could Some Neoplans. Maybe Fairview Could Put Some Of Their Neoplans On The #1 When The PATH Is Suspended Or Something Like That. Or Maybe Just Use The #1 As An Alternative For PATH Passengers That To Journal Square (I'm Talking About The Passengers That Don't Transfer To The 33rd St Train At Journal Square).

 

#2 #139 Honestly I Never Rode This Route. But Due To Frequent Service And Popular Opinion Of Course. I Had To Put It On The List. The Destinations Are Very Unique. So I Like This Route

 

#1 #5 The Reason I Like The #5 Is Because It's Also Like The Fact That It's Also Close To Where I Live. Even Though The #5 Isn't Frequent On Rush Hour (It Runs Every 15 Min During Rush Hour) It's Is A Bit Crowded But You Can Get An Seat And No One Ever Stand Up. And It's A Bit Faster Than The 39/70 Combine

In response to AFNYer, the 1 route sadly cannot have more trips going to Jersey City. That is for several reasons. The first one is because on a average weekday, a majority of the Hilton buses are used because they have so many routes from that garage. If that were to happy, then 1 would have to split with 2 garages. The only garage it would be able to split with is Greenville. However, Greenville exhasts almost all of their buses because they have less routes. You see, Greenville only has 6 routes. But, they use so many of their buses on weekdays. If you take a look at MyBusNow off the rush hour, you see about 10 80s, 7 87s and MANY 126 trips. To respond to your Neoplan comment, I would like to have that, but they Neoplans will not be able to handle Ivy Hill Loop. They cannot end there. If there were to be Neoplans on the 1, they would have to add a special trip from Newark to Jersey City and back.

 

My favorite routes:

 

#37: Runs from Ivy Hill Loop to Newark Airport (All Terminals and North Area): It is a very simple route and is normally not overcrowded. On an average weekday, the people using it are airport workers that live in the Ivy towers. The bus runs about 2 per hour from 5 to 8 AM then resumes to once per hour, then trips start at Irvington Terminal at noon. The trip is 45 minutes. I normally use it to Terminal C so I can connect to the 62 to get to IKEA.

 

#108: Newark to New York (via Union City): Once again, a very simple route. The bus starts near the Colonnade Park Apartments. The bus then passes through Broad Street Station then passes through Newark Penn. It is one of the two suburban routes from Hilton, 107 is the other one. Drivers normally alternate from these two routes at PABT. 108 on weekdays has some trips that do NOT go through Union City in the early morning hours. They operate once per hour, and the normal ridership only has a few people standing.

I Can't Seem To Find The PDF Schedules For NJ Transit's Discounted Routes For Some Reason Where Can I Find Them

Search the NJT website through the wayback machine.

 

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I Remember Seeing An Suburban On The 25

Hilton is either short on suburbans or is doing a poor job on assigning buses with routes. Routes 107 and 108 have 3 transits on the line on an average weekday and then I see suburbans on routes like 37 and 26. However, on occasions, Greenville uses some Hilton suburbans for the overcrowded 126 line.

 

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Looking Good.

 

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Egg Harbor has 16001 and 16002 was transferred back to NJT.

Thank you for the information. Meadowlands had 16001 for far too long.

 

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I don't see removing them... Can i assume has more money to spare???

The MTA rejects are the NJT D4500CT fleet from 7101 - 7113 i believe. I may be wrong. But, its NJT that owns and operates those buses, so THE D4500CT (2008 Model) which had the rear destination sign will be removed, as well as the future MCI orders, being the 2001 - 2005 MCI replacements.

 

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It is official, we will continue to run for our MCI bus after a long day at work not knowing what route it is. At least it is saving NJT some money.