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Iv'e gotten a look at a completed R179 set on here: http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/160125_1345_CPOC.pdf

I've heard of an R46 on the  post-late 1980s. There has definitely been one on the after the 9/11 reroutes.

 

The only used R46 temporarily from the . I don't count R46 truly being on the  

Yeah I remember the was a strange bird back in those days- heck, I even remember seeing an R46 show up on that line once in the late '90s.

 

Also, I just realized I've never seen a station musician at any of the elevated lines- anyone else notice this?

The stopped using R46 after May 1987. If you caught R46 on the that was probably a routed

No I'm not. From 1994 up until 2002, Evening/Late Nights/Weekends it ran local in Brooklyn. I remember that clearly because I've ridden the that line before at the time (Beginning of 1999) and the old 1998 map for example even says it.

 

Here, the 2000 Schedule says otherwise

http://web.archive.org/web/20000919160736/http://www.lirr.org/nyct/service/pdf/tncur.pdf

The time schedule does not show the running local along 4 Av on the Weekends. 

Going to correct a couple things

 

The Train was cut from Brooklyn during Middays and Weekends from April to November of 1995 due to Bridge work with the Trains replacing it running to 21st Street.

 

The went 4th Local on Weekday evenings/nights/weekends up until 2002.

 

From 1993-1995 the went to 86th Street only due to some work at Coney Island

After 1994 the went back to express along 4 Av during all times except late nights. You probably talking about 1961 service. The rush hour local service was always provided by the   up until 2010 

On April 13, 1986 when the Manhattan Bridge project began on 6 Av side, did the   have 3 terminals (Bay Ridge 95 St , 9 Av, and Bay Parkway?) And why did the MTA route the   away from Brighton Line? 

I love how the transfers on the new & strip map are all in Standard-Medium...

The strip maps together looks bad. The local stops on the is missing. The lex line is on far left of the map while 7 Av is on far right. The map makes you look like your eyes are going all over the place. 

On weekdays.

 

Weekends, the was the sole train on the Brighton line until the changes began happening.

Thanks for filling in I forgot all about the   running along Brighton on weekdays. But still the was running along Brighton local at all times before 1973. 

Still looking to catch that R68A set on the . What time does it normally run? I've seen 18:57 out of 207 but haven't caught it.

I rode R68a twice on the . I recommend catching it at Hoyt-Schermerhorn St between 7:40-7:45 pm towards Queens.

I rode R68a twice on the . I recommend catching it at Hoyt-Schermerhorn St between 7:40-7:45 pm towards Queens.

Mondays-Fridays

Question, pre 2001, what exactly were the routes that served all Coney Island Bound Lines in Brooklyn?

 

I know that the used to be the full time West End line.

 

The used to be the full time Brighton Line.

 

The ? Used to be the Sea Beach Line.

 

I don't know what served Culver. (Other then the Culver Shuttle)

 

Was 4th Avenue served by the or the ?

 

And when was the introduced? Was it introduced after the opening of the 63 connecter?

from 1967-2001 Coney Island-Stillwell Ave 

 served the West End line to Coney Island from 1967-2001. It run all times. Until Feb 22, 2004 the  swapped  route running as express to Brighton Beach during weekdays only. 

 served Brighton to Coney Island also from 1967-2001 at all times. Feb 22, 2004 it swapped the former  on West End.

served the West End line from July 22, 2001 to Feb 22, 2004 when the Manhattan Bridge north tracks leading to the IND Sixth Avenue Line closed for reconstruction.  had run full-time from Coney Island – Stillwell Avenue to Manhattan via the BMT West End Line and Manhattan Bridge north tracks onto the Sixth Avenue Line, but it had to be split when the north side tracks closed. was put in as part of previous 1st split in 1986-1988 6 Av closure of the Bridge. The was filled for the former  service. The made all stops  made except that didn't stop at Queensboro Plaza as last stop.

4 Av was always served by  trains.  was local along 4 Av from 1988-1994.

always been around since 1960 but it had other names like QJ and QB up until 1985. From 1986-1988 the served it's current route 57 St(Broadway Express) (Brighton Express) to Brighton Beach while  ran local to Coney Island. From 1988-2001 was shifted over to 6 Av and used this bullet  while Broadway side of the Manhattan bridge closed. 

I hope this helps. 

No need to switch a train in front of another, only for it to switch back 2 stops later

I know what you mean but what i was saying was that the MTA could of allowed the  to run local with the to prevent traffic jam on express tracks where it shared with . I was wondering if was doing okay when it ran solo on local stops.

The northbound  would've had to merge with the instead of directly connecting to the 63rd Street Tunnel, and the southbound  would've had to merge with the at Rockerfeller Center and then the at Broadway/Lafayette instead of directly merging with the .

 

Here's the track map of the Rockerfeller Center area.

What was complicated about that? The  could of switched to/from local tracks at West 4 St.   get to 63 St line where the  could of got to if it went local. Going to Brooklyn (Southbound) after 47-50 Sts, the    passes beneath the to crossover.  did diverge with the at 47-50 (Southbound) but it was on the far right outer track.  

Why didn't the  run local along 6 Av with the when it was in service? Before 2001, was ridership along local stops on 6 Av was balanced?

It all happened on the same weekend. The last day of service to Rockaway Park was on 23 October. The , re-designated as the Rockaway Park from Broad Channel to Rockaway Park, started running that weekend. The started running to Far Rockaway full-time at the same time. The following Monday, rush hour train service to Rockaway Park to replace the , began operating.

 

As stated above, you've got timers along the route. You've also got the DeKalb Av junction slowing things down.

So Saturday October 24, 1992 was when   turned into  on public signs and was cut back from Euclid Av and Round robbin discontinued? And Monday October 26, 1992 was start of the full   service to Far Rockaway and Rush Hour Rockaway Park   service?

It all happened on the same weekend. The last day of service to Rockaway Park was on 23 October. The , re-designated as the Rockaway Park from Broad Channel to Rockaway Park, started running that weekend. The started running to Far Rockaway full-time at the same time. The following Monday, rush hour train service to Rockaway Park to replace the , began operating.

 

As stated above, you've got timers along the route. You've also got the DeKalb Av junction slowing things down.

Thanks Lance. I appreciated 

Why do the  trains cross the Manhattan Bridge so slowly? Is it due to weakness of the bridge? I did my research on Wikipedia and I read that passing trains caused the structure on the bridge to tilt and sway. The wobble worsened as train cars became longer and heavier. Over years, when one train moved over the bridge one side would be 3 feet lower than the other side, severely damaging the structure.  

The MTA decided that all shuttles would receive the designation, rather than the former that was in place for the Rockaway Park shuttle. When the switched its full time terminals from Lefferts Blvd to Far Rockaway, which occurred on 26 October, 1992, the Rockaway Park shuttle was cut back from Euclid Av to its present terminus at Broad Channel.

I thought October 23, 1992 was the day the  was cut from Rockaway Park. I was asking what year and day the   sign was discontinued on public subway signs because wiki and other sources say it was 1993 or 1994. I thought the Rush Hour Rockaway Park   and full time   service into Far Rockaway went into effect in early 1993. Why did the MTA decide that   would be turned into ?  

Why Rockaway Park Shuttle  isn't called the H train on the maps or public signs? Why MTA change the original Rockaway Park Shuttle sign and what exact year did MTA discontinue the H train not from post-sandy? I read that the H sign was discontinued in 1993 or 1994.  

Why hasn't MNR extended the Electronic service to Poughkeepise, NY from Croton-Harmon? 

If the South Side of the Manhattan Bridge closes for inspection like it did from 1988-2001 will the  turn into the  and if that would happen were will the  terminate? Also would the  go to 2 Av and take  place temporarily?

If the North Side of the Manhattan Bridge was to close for inspection like it did from 1986-1988 and 2001-2004, will the be replaced by as the Brighton Express? Would the  be re-extended back to Coney Island via West End? 

The   should run local in Manhattan over night and the   should run local in Queens over night, there is no need for any over night express service.

 is better off running express during late nights in Manhattan. The   is doing it's job along 6 Av during the night. Now if the ridership increases along 6 Av during late nights the   should run local. I agree that the   should go local during the late nights along QB. There's not a lot of ridership along that line during the night.  needs help. 

How did terminate at 121 St before 1988 extension to Jamaica Center? I read that  ran singled tracked from 111 St to 121 St and they terminated only on the Manhattan bound track. Anyone living around 1985-1986 can you elaborate on this terminal set up at 121 St for me? 

Should the  go down 2 Av instead of the ? I feel that  going to 2 Av will kill the enthusiasm of riding . What do you think?

I have a 78.8% chance that 76th Street exists. If I had the authority, I would go directly to 76th Street and tear a hole in the street if I had to.

Why you obsessed with 76 St? Why don't you protest for the MTA to dig on 76 St and Pitkan Av

And it's connected to the ? Or is it connected by a ladder?

 

And an update on 76th Street station: I read somewhere that the MTA did some inspecting a few years ago and drilled a hole in the wall of the layup track at Euclid, but water came out and was resealed.

 

I need to know the answer, it's been bugging me ever since I heard about it. Is there an actual 76th Street station, and why won't the MTA just do us a favor and check? It's beneficial to them because they can extend the yard leads to store more trains, and to us because we will finally know the truth.

76 St station never existed. If that's the case they MTA should go on private property and dig straight down on 76 St and Pitkin Av to conclude their investigation.

Does anyone know what the GCT trolley loop is?

 

http://ltvsquad.com/2012/09/04/grand-central-trolley-loop/

GCT trolley loop was a loop used to terminate Trolley trains coming into Manhattan from LIC Queens using the Steinway Tunnel. You have all the answers on the link you put up.

In your opinion do you think Broadway  or 6 Av  (1988-2001) is better? and why?

The profile insert here shows how the lines are arranged.

I saw that arrangement already. Im looking for different views on it.