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572 is out of service just to get a repaint and nothing more.

 

Also, the situation you're describing is more of a extremely delayed service situation rather than a lack of funding situation.

Okey-dokey. When the 572 is finished being repainted, show us the photoshots of that vehicle.

Also, for Q58, if "lack of funding" has almost nothing to do with the excessively long waiting for the bus but a bump on the thread, then what do you guys think is the reason for that hold-up?

 

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I mean you're not exactly wrong on your guess. I asked since this particular unit is the only C40LF with experimental interior LCD screens so it could've been taken out of service to address kinks that could be related to the screens (a la electrical issues like the Clever Devices LCD screens on the Orion 7 NG HEVs) or it simply could've been out for repainting.

And not only that situation, there is given insufficient funds for MTA to run more buses (including vehicle #572) as I mentioned with my parents in my family's car, felt shocked of the occupation commotion as we saw there at college Point Blvd and Fowler Avenue yesterday (last Sunday, April 23 at almost 3 in the afternoon). There were a HUGE amount of people taking up a block, where the gas station is, waiting for a bus around an hour, where cars barely stopped there for refuel. (I'm not allowed to talk politics any further in this forum, or Cait Sith will ban me permanently, but my off-topic is the reason)

 

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LMAO. What in the world are you talking about??

I just guess. I am referring to some parts of the bus.

 

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Does anyone know what happened to 572? Is it in the process of getting a repaint or did something else happen?

Probably, most of buses cannot be repainted. Situation like that happened to those buses must be broken and taken for repair, I think.

 

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On Saturday, April 8, 2017, at hour 1520, I saw a Q55 bus passing the Adams Street & Bklyn Supreme Court b25/38/52 bus stop. There is only one passenger riding the Q55 bus. Its vehicle number is 6498, and the top electronic sign says "Q55 Woodhaven Blvd".

I cannot take pictures of the bus because I am not authorised to snapshot govt's property.

Anyway, Let me ask you guys the concern, how come one bus is operating Q55 as at Downtown Brooklyn?

 

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...and will be also their alternative.

Con: at Canarise Rockaway, they will expect longer travel time if they want 8 Av via 14 Street in manhattan.

 

 

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The state of NY isn't supplying public buses & the operators needed to drive them in this city, to help your business grow bigger.....

 

It's not up to him to supply a terminal for a suggestion that you claim is needed to "grow (your) business bigger"...

You think it should happen, you come up with at least an area where it should terminate.... That's how suggestions work.

 

Explain to us how you plan on shifting enough folks from off those subway lines, to a bus..... I'll wait.

 

Now I'm all for encouraging inter-borough surface transportation in this city, but you have to consider what market(s) you plan on serving & how efficiently you can do so with a bus route (in this case, an extension of a current one).... It does not look as if you've considered either - just as long as the requisite of growing your business is met, right?

 

In laymens, you're not getting current riders of those subway lines to abandon it for a bus that goes no further than the Delancey st. commercial corridor - to have to end up taking the same trains (yes trains, plural, as many riders that even take the & the xfer to subway lines running north-south in Manhattan) they would, if they had normally stayed on w/e subway line that runs proximal to their place of residence to begin with.... Running buses along Bushwick is practically serving the same general market that the Nassau line & the 8th av line already serves.....

 

Both of those so-called "pro's" is saying the same thing; all your "pro #2" does is make it that much conspicuous as to how weak the supposed pro's of running the B39 deeper into Brooklyn is...... As for the "cons", #1 is irrelevant, since you're not going to tap into an existing market that is well served with the J, and especially with the L anyway.... Do you know how hardcore L riders are when it comes to patronizing "their" line? They do so with more diligence than those that reside within the confines of Brooklyn CB 6 - which says a lot, if you pay attention to those things.... Con #2, yes, there is heavy traffic that plagues the Willy' B......

 

I'm saying all this, as a staunch advocate of surface transit... But we have to be realistic too, man.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/nyregion/l-train-will-shut-down-between-manhattan-and-brooklyn-in-2019-for-18-months.html?_r=0&referer=

Then, as the NYC times news above, what if the line will be suspended for 18 months starting from 2019?

Hint: B39 should be ridden for alternative.

 

 

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Super express for both QM2 and 20. They go straight to LIE from Manhattan via 34 from 6 av

This one is not from my experiences of those two express bus routes. I checked them in Transits Mobile app.

 

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However, how's that peak express if driving via I678? For outbound, should've be going to I278 after I495 to get to Whitestone expy due to crammed EB LIE after Maspeth?

 

 

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How's the QM2 during peaks times? Do you have any experience with the QM20?

Super express for both QM2 and 20. They go straight to LIE from Manhattan via 34 from 6 av

This one is not from my experiences of those two express bus routes. I checked them in Transits Mobile app.

 

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Does anyone have any experience riding the QM7/QM8? I'm looking to move to an area they service and was wondering how much worse it will be compared to rides on the QM25 that already can take almost an hour and a half.

I took QM25 when I am going to Manhattan DOB at Downtown. Since QM10 and 11 have shorter headways than 7 and 8, how about just 10 and 11 should help Eliot Avenue Westbound, so QM24, 25, and 34 will take LIE from 69 St to avoid backtracking, the reason for waste of time.

 

 

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Extending the Q52 to Woodside or Jackson Hts is the equivalent of sending the Q11/21 to Jackson Hts (And the 53 going to say Neponsit or Roxbury with the QM16). Last time I checked, the Q52/53 aren't the M34. I do agree with extending the 52 on the Rockaways portion of the route though.

But in other route... make sure beware of the rush hour traffic, like along Broadway.

 

 

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Yep. I agreed to whom asked for extinction of Q52. But still neutral. The bad news is, Broadway won't have enough room in each bus to pack a huge line of crowds during peak hours. Suggest to just let Q52 retire before promoting 53 into Select Bus Service. Also, since Broadway traffic during peak hour still going AWOL, gotta need alternative route, maybe use Corona Av, and 92 Street, in case there's traffic also at queens blvd, and becaude its existing route had followed the subway line between Roosevelt Avenue - Jackson Heights and Woodhaven Blvd consecutively.

Or just extend Q52 (proposed SBS) to 74 Street Jackson Heights, then let it take Corona Av from Broadway, then right at 92 Street just every peak hours. How's that?

Pro: Moving away from cluttered Broadway traffic, and relieve crowds along Corona Av

Con: scenic route; may also experience traffic at 92 Street

B39 extension

Here are pros and cons:

 

Pros:

1. deals with rush-hour crowds from and trains

2. Another way to travel to Manhattan

 

Cons as our concerns,

1. As Trainmaster5 questioned above my post, if b39 operates via its extension full-time; It is for peaks hours only

2. Heavy traffic at Williamsburg bridge and major roadd

 

The outbound terminus from Manhattan, you decide since I am a beginner of this forum, even though I rode with your company a lot.

 

 

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Why would Bushwick Avenue need a bus route when numerous routes and the Broadway el run parallel to it for most of it's length?

Just a suggestion to take care of crowds, mostly on buses heading towards and from Downtown Brooklyn/Manhattan, during peak hours...

via B39 extension.

If you think this is still unnecessary, how so?

 

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I had looked over my transit app, and I had not found any bus routes plying along Bushwick Avenue. Also, B39, currently serving Manhattan stops, needs an extension to grow our business bigger.

 

 

 

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Good idea, better than mines. Q58 is really crowded every peak hours somewhere at grand avenue and Queens Blvd. like you said, two heads going to/from flushing better than one.

Also, B57 sometimes come with same frustration like your situation about Q59, the delay at Red Hook because the road is narrow over there; the last year, forget it. Sometimes, passengers have to wait like an hour or so.

And this is the similar solution for Q38, just like splitting M5, into 5 and 55 along their route.

 

 

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The Q59 these past few years has started becoming a total annoyance to use; no matter what time of day (or day of the week) it is, I cannot catch a break with its reliability problems. If its not BO's playing games, it's the no shows followed by bunched and late buses. Just a few days ago, I waited for the Q59 for 55 minutes after missing one, and then one not being a no show. That was also during the evening, in the day it's worse too. I never saw it to be this bad until about two years ago.

 

I would just break up the Q38, so that the Eliot Avenue portion gets a boost in headways to every 10 minutes instead of 12 during the peak hours (because buses are flagging people in the morning and often in the afternoon). Perhaps as an effort to boost ridership on the Penelope Avenue branch of the Q38, the split route can go to Flushing (although I'm not too sure if I would this) in addition to serving Ridgewood. This would help get some loads off the Q58.

Good idea, better than mines. Q58 is really crowded every peak hours somewhere at grand avenue and Queens Blvd. like you said, two heads going to/from flushing better than one.

Also, B57 sometimes come with same frustration like your situation about Q59, the delay at Red Hook because the road is narrow over there; the last year, forget it. Sometimes, passengers have to wait like an hour or so.

why does Ridgewood need a bus to Astoria on Fresh Pond when there is a bus to Long Island City on Forest?

 

The bus routes in and on the edges of Ridgewood going into the rest of Queens make sense. Q39 and Q67 going west, Q54 and Q55 going east and Q38 and Q58 going north.

 

Your plan takes all that traffic going to Queens Blvd and forces it onto the Q38 (which only skims the corner of the neigbhoorhood and has a much longer headway) or transfer at Grand Avenue and the LIE.

 

And since I agreed to Kamen Rider about the heavy traffic, then first of all, I take it back about Q18, and second, we had thought to move the Q58 to ply via Eliot Avenue for its shorter headway.

Route:

Instead of Grand Avenue, Q58 shall follow existing Q38 to Woodhaven Blvd, via Q53 to Broadway and Justice, then its own regular existing route to Flushing.

Now if you think this is still awkward like my proposal for Q18, feel free to correct me. Thank you.

 

 

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And here is a exclaimed response from T J Trainman: "1 answer NO!! Not happening. Nothing is getting transferred to and from NYCT/MTAB." from my locked post.

This is because I didn't know what policy you guys in MTA have about the transits. I only know the abstractions about MTA because I had rode with your company a lot, wanting to save my inheritance from buying a car, as the daily basis, while waiting for more convenience.

Maybe just some hints, don't have to be a whole thing, so I could fix our aforementioned concerns about my proposal above.

 

 

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Proposals for Q18 and Q58

 

I would like to introduce you the suggestion to switch around with these two bus routes. Some times like around last years winter season, Q58 buses had taken almost two hours to get from Flushing, to its terminus. Another reason, I don't think many commuters expect to go to flushing, only reachable to Manhattan. Also, let's think that Astoria is not so far from Ridgewood with my plan; equal to having Q39 at Forest Avenue, also in case train may experience any situations like switch problems due to increment weather.

 

1. Q18 from Ridgewood Terminal (Palmetto Street and Cornelia Av), to Astoria (27 Avenue and 2 Street)

via superseded Q58 route then,

Regular Service: via its existing routes, or...

Limited service: via existing Q47 route between Grand Avenue and Garfield Avenue, along 69 Street, then its existing route

 

I. Route informations for Regular Service:

 

1. 76 Stops (48-75 minutes)

 

2. Inbound: Astoria bound buses will make all their existing bus stops after Grand Avenue and Queens Midtown Expressway Overpass

 

3. Outbound: Ridgewood term bound buses will make all their existing bus stops before Grand Avenue and Remsen Place, then making all its superseded Q58 bus stops

 

II. Route Informations for Limited Service:

 

1. 40 Stops (49-51 minutes)

 

2. Inbound: Astoria bound Buses will go straight along 69 Street, making just existing Q47 bus stops, after Grand Avenue, then making all their existing bus stops after Garfield Avenue

 

3. Outbound: Ridgewood terminal bound buses will go straight along 69 street, after 50 avenue and 67 Street, making just existing Q47 bus stops, and after 69 Street and 53 Avenue, they will bypass all the way to Fresh Pond Road and Flushing Avenue, and making just their superseded Q58 Limited bus stops

 

4. Buses will be available every weekdays only

 

III. Subway Transfers

* denotes not recommended transfer due to crowding

** denotes not durable transfer if increment weather happens

*** denotes both situations above

 

Ridgewood Terminal <=>

***1. and trains at Myrtle and Wyckoff Avenues, near the terminus at Palmetto Street and Wyckoff Avenue

 

**2. train at Fresh Pond road, near the bus stop at 67 Avenue and Fresh Pond Road

 

*3. and peak hour trains at Woodside - 61 Street, near the bus stop at Woodside Avenue and 61 Street (Not recommended during peak hours, instead, use transfers below or 5)

 

4. Weeknight , weekday , and Daytime trains at Northern Blvd and Broadway, near the bus stop at Broadway and 56 Street

 

5. and weekday trains at 30 Avenue - Grand Avenue, near the bus stop at 30 Avenue and 31 Street <=>Astoria

 

Frequency: Same rate as B38 (5-9 Buses per hour)

 

2. Q58 from Maspeth (Grand Avenue and 64 Street), to Flushing (41 Road and Main Street)

 

I. Route Information

 

1. 36 Stops (27-50 minutes)

via Grand Avenue, then all existing bus stops after its first one

 

II. Benefits for this proposal:

 

Downtown Brooklyn-Queens Easy-Transfer Routes:

 

1. Inbound (Downtown Brooklyn): Transfer to Red Hook bound B57 at Flushing Avenue and 61 Street of Maspeth bound Q58

 

2. Inbound (Long Island City): Transfer to Q39 from the terminus (61 Street and Grand Avenue) of Maspeth bound Q58

 

3. Outbound (Flushing): Transfer to Flushing bound Q58 from the terminus (Grand Avenue and 64 Street) of Maspeth bound B57

 

Frequency: 6-10 buses per hour

 

 

 

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Also, similar to Flushing having Q19 to Astoria and 66 to Long Island City

 

 

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Proposals for Q18 and Q58

 

I would like to introduce you the suggestion to switch around with these two bus routes. Some times like around last years winter season, Q58 buses had taken almost two hours to get from Flushing, to its terminus. Another reason, I don't think many commuters expect to go to flushing, only reachable to Manhattan. Also, let's think that Astoria is not so far from Ridgewood with my plan; equal to having Q39 at Forest Avenue, also in case train may experience any situations like switch problems due to increment weather.

 

1. Q18 from Ridgewood Terminal (Palmetto Street and Cornelia Av), to Astoria (27 Avenue and 2 Street)

via superseded Q58 route then,

Regular Service: via its existing routes, or...

Limited service: via existing Q47 route between Grand Avenue and Garfield Avenue, along 69 Street, then its existing route

 

I. Route informations for Regular Service:

 

1. 76 Stops (48-75 minutes)

 

2. Inbound: Astoria bound buses will make all their existing bus stops after Grand Avenue and Queens Midtown Expressway Overpass

 

3. Outbound: Ridgewood term bound buses will make all their existing bus stops before Grand Avenue and Remsen Place, then making all its superseded Q58 bus stops

 

II. Route Informations for Limited Service:

 

1. 40 Stops (49-51 minutes)

 

2. Inbound: Astoria bound Buses will go straight along 69 Street, making just existing Q47 bus stops, after Grand Avenue, then making all their existing bus stops after Garfield Avenue

 

3. Outbound: Ridgewood terminal bound buses will go straight along 69 street, after 50 avenue and 67 Street, making just existing Q47 bus stops, and after 69 Street and 53 Avenue, they will bypass all the way to Fresh Pond Road and Flushing Avenue, and making just their superseded Q58 Limited bus stops

 

4. Buses will be available every weekdays only

 

III. Subway Transfers

* denotes not recommended transfer due to crowding

** denotes not durable transfer if increment weather happens

*** denotes both situations above

 

Ridgewood Terminal <=>

***1. and trains at Myrtle and Wyckoff Avenues, near the terminus at Palmetto Street and Wyckoff Avenue

 

**2. train at Fresh Pond road, near the bus stop at 67 Avenue and Fresh Pond Road

 

*3. and peak hour trains at Woodside - 61 Street, near the bus stop at Woodside Avenue and 61 Street (Not recommended during peak hours, instead, use transfers below or 5)

 

4. Weeknight , weekday , and Daytime trains at Northern Blvd and Broadway, near the bus stop at Broadway and 56 Street

 

5. and weekday trains at 30 Avenue - Grand Avenue, near the bus stop at 30 Avenue and 31 Street <=>Astoria

 

Frequency: Same rate as B38 (5-9 Buses per hour)

 

2. Q58 from Maspeth (Grand Avenue and 64 Street), to Flushing (41 Road and Main Street)

 

I. Route Information

 

1. 36 Stops (27-50 minutes)

via Grand Avenue, then all existing bus stops after its first one

 

II. Benefits for this proposal:

 

Downtown Brooklyn-Queens Easy-Transfer Routes:

 

1. Inbound (Downtown Brooklyn): Transfer to Red Hook bound B57 at Flushing Avenue and 61 Street of Maspeth bound Q58

 

2. Inbound (Long Island City): Transfer to Q39 from the terminus (61 Street and Grand Avenue) of Maspeth bound Q58

 

3. Outbound (Flushing): Transfer to Flushing bound Q58 from the terminus (Grand Avenue and 64 Street) of Maspeth bound B57

 

Frequency: 6-10 buses per hour

 

 

 

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Really, express bus fare as a matter of principle should be pegged to double local fare.

Pretty reasonable, strongly agreed.

 

 

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Like one of your discussion about q52 and 53, you would implant SBS, and sending more buses during peak hours to resolve crowding.

 

 

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