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2 hours ago, Collin said:

It also allows the  and  to be de-interlined from Astoria down the Broadway Local tracks, increasing service (with a possible LGA extension).

At this point, you could just eliminate service. all it is, is a short turned train that'll get re-routed via Sea Beach twice a day.

1 hour ago, Collin said:

Same 2001-2010, but extended to Church Avenue.  12 tph.

 

Why not just keep the how it already is? I'm just going to assume you're placing the trains at 96/2 or taking it off 6th Avenue, which would take away from the Midtown access that the currently gives to Brooklyn Riders. But the doesn't really solve any problems, it's still the same merge at Queens Plaza minus the , but now it's 2 separate merges, at 36 St and Queens Plaza. If you want to really preserve Broadway Service, you could have the run local and the run express via 63 St. It'd be a more smooth route.

3 hours ago, Jova42R said:

CONEY ISLAND - SEA BEACH LCL - 4 AV LCL - BWAY EXP - QBL LCL - JEWEL AV

Is the N running on 63 St or 60 St? If it's on 63, same thing as above, if it's on 60th, then it still has that dreaded 34 St merge, which you could solve by placing it on the Broadway local. Which would also help with the 4th Av Local service, which I'm.. confused about. If you run it on the 4th Av Local, you take it away from the bridge, and you have added 12 TPH from DeKalb - Canal St, then for it to go express, you have to move it to the express tracks right after the merge. A mess in and of itself. The line isn't the line to provide additional local service on weekdays, especially when you're making it as long as it is. If you wanted extra local service, you could've either, added more trains to run down the line like it does during Rush Hours, or Eliminated the  (again) because where are you going to put it? Putting it on Astoria when it'll limit travel? 

What about the line?

13 hours ago, bobtehpanda said:

 6th - 63rd - QB EXP - Jamaica 179 (15TPH)

6th - 63rd - QB LCL - Forest Hills (15TPH)

 Howard Beach/Lefferts - Fulton EXP - 8th EXP - 53rd - QB EXP - Parsons/Archer (15TPH)

Euclid - Fulton LCL -   8th EXP - 53rd - QB LCL - Forest Hills (15TPH)

207 - CPW LCL - 8 AV LCL - WTC (24TPH

You could have just the on the Local QB tracks.
And on the express, 

doesn't have to be the 8th EXP, the can do that, and serve ENY service since people from Harlem/Uptown would like to go to Brooklyn without having to transfer at a station. QB already has the (M), and don't have that high demand to go to Brooklyn/ENY, they can either go to Jamaica for the  or transfer. The has high enough capacity to take over the 8th Av local tracks, and provide suffice service. the lack of merges also helps out. You can put the on the local track from 145-168 St, just have that single merge, vs the two merges at 145 St, and 59 St between the  , , and . Now we just have a merge between . On the QB Line, now you have a merge between.. nothing. are on it's own track, the is on it's own track. if someone at a local stop wants to go to 6th Av, they can either back pedal, and head to Jackson, or they can go to 7th Av and take the , if we create a transfer at Queens Plaza/Queensboro Plaza, it'd help create a connection to Broadway. 

3 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said:

Are the  trains headed to New Lots , just turned  trains that headed up to City College ?

 

subwaytime and the mta website show a couple s to new lots 

It looks like some  trains are going to New Lots, probably to help the gap between trains since there are longer waits.

NEXT: 
     - A terrorist group bombs the Brooklyn, Williamsburg, Queensboro and Manhattan Bridges at the same exact time[12:26a] affecting  
     - A power outage in Downtown Brooklyn happens at 1 am (A very busy night if you ask me) affecting the    lines

You want to do quick and easy dodges before the next morning (before the Morning Rush comes) 

You have to reroute and services 

11 minutes ago, MeeP15-9112 said:

If 207 can fix 1391, the Canarsie set, and the QBL derailment set, IMO they could fix 6346-50, at the cost of the set being OOS for a long time (I estimate 3-4 years).

 

I wonder if you've actually seen the pictures, but the cars look horribly burned, while those cars were derailed, this car was scorched burned, and metal probably melted. That's a different subject than those other incidents you named.

1 minute ago, Caelestor said:

As for 50 St / 8 Ave, the solution is pretty clear. Local trains should be stopping at the upper level, and express trains stopping at the lower level. Then the 6 Ave express tracks can fully take over the CPW express tracks, and simplify the Manhattan services into

•  207 St - WTC local, 24/7
•  145 St lower level / Bedford Park Blvd (rush hours) - 6 Ave express, weekdays
•  Norwood - 6 Ave express, 24/7
•  53 St - 8 Ave express - Fulton express, 24/7
•  53 St - 8 Ave express - Fulton local, 19/7

As for Queens Blvd, the lines should be

•  53 St - QB express
•  63 St - QB express
•  53 St - QB local
•  63 St - QB local

which does keep reverse branching on QBL but at least the problematic 53 St / 6 Ave and 60 St / QBL merges disappear.

You really don't NEED upper and lower level services, and you'd still have issues of 36 St merging between the and the . Keep 8th Av Local and 6th Av Express, that way it's much more easier. 

23 minutes ago, Collin said:

if the R is removed from QB, then what would replace it?  Obviously it would be a local service via 63rd, but what Manhattan line are you thinking it would go on?  I totally agree that QB local trains need to end at Forest Hills.

Well if we were to truly deinterline it, we could just have the run local, and the  and  trains run via 63 and express. the isn't that long of a route, and can withstand local service, it'll still be practically alone with no shared tracks. However, we could just run the  on Queens Blvd and  on Astoria. But this limit's the 's ability to go beyond Forest Hills, so you'd have to place the or to Jamaica Center. But I would rather have just the on the local tracks. 

Wouldn't you'd still have a merge between and service, and and service? And with and service when trains run local along with trains unless you're doing express local, which would still be a merge when the (or ) becomes local in 1 direction? You're just moving the merge uptown. 

If you want to deinterline 34 St - Hearld Sq (Broadway) you're going to have to make and trains both go to 96 St, at all times, trains should go to Astoria, and either we cut the or we move the terminal to Forest Hills (But it's a step back), Which could also be de-interlined into  local and express. You wouldn't even need a second service because the would be running at max capacity. We could even create a Queens Plaza - Queensboro Plaza Transfer, so that there is access to Broadway along Queens Blvd. run full capacity [14 trains per hour] we could fix the switches to handle more, and service isn't needed anymore. 

DeKalb could be deinterlined with going along Brighton, and trains going along 4th Av [Swapping and trains]. If there isn't enough service at Bay Ridge, then we can just have a train start at Whitehall and end at Bay Ridge going [7-8 TBH] and trains going [14 TBH] for a total of 21 TBH. 

And finally that god awful Roger's Junction can just have trains go down Nostrand Avenue, and trains go down New Lots (with trains ending at Utica). That way it'll make a lot of things easier. and way more fluid service in terms of routing.

8 hours ago, CenSin said:

Wouldn’t those just be trains…?

They probably just call them trains because it's the same 2 terminals, just along a different route. trains don't usually run to Dyre Av. Probably Operational stuff also, but they do stuff like this a lot. Probably why they have the same strip maps now.

8 hours ago, EvilMonologue said:

Sending the  and  down Utica av and the  and  up 5 av might be the long term solution to that.

Wouldn't it just be easier to send the down Utica Av. Also, 5th avenue is a hard place to put trains. Not only would residences not welcome the train, you'd have to do digging interrupting 5th Avenue's constant movement. Especially since it's next to the park. You'd probably do better if you made it a Second Avenue Route, with track connections to the Manhattan Bridge off of Grand St, while the  goes to Willy B. It's as close to Midtown as you can get without causing too much of a fuss.

5th Or Madison Avenue  trains.. M trains go to 5th/53rd, then go up to 5th/59th, only to travel express stopping at 86th, 106th, 125th.

Than, we can have an  and  train change to a pink color, and travel up 5th and 4th Avenues, with similar stops as other trains. K trains run express and V's run local. 
After 135th, the trains go over the Madison Av bridge stopping at 138th St/GC, and go up to either Webster, 3rd Avenue (Bronx), or Boston Rd.

and  trains get extended on Gun Hill Rd, and go into Co-Op City. Trains end at White Plains Rd.

 should go towards BPC from Hudson Yards.