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11 hours ago, MTA Researcher said:

Off topic, but I would like to know if it’s really impossible to connect CPW and Broadway Local via provisions north on local track? Even if from 57/7 the next stop being 72 st in  CPW? i know connecting to 59 st Columbus is a no-no because of a sharp turn…

From what another RTO personnel has said to me, it's not really possible because of Broadway Express connecting to the 63 St/2 Av line. Unless the local tunnel can go over the 60 St tunnel and then under the 63 St tunnel, but who knows how possible that will be especially with how steep that might end up being. Or they could always just go under the 60 St tunnel to begin with.

Regardless, it would be an expensive project unless customers want to change how their commute goes.

4 hours ago, shiznit1987 said:

This is my idea of trying to improve Fulton St service: 

Tie in the outermost tracks at Hoyt-Schmerhorn to the  tracks between Bergen St and Jay St. This will allow for 6th Ave trains to run down the Fulton St Local without tying up  Trains. What this does is set up a service pattern that looks like this: 

 207-Inwood to Far Rockaway via CPW Express, 8th Ave Express, Fulton Exp (all times)

 205-Norwood to Lefferts Blvd via CPW Express, 8th Ave Express, Fulton Exp (all times)

 As is (QB Express late nights)

 As is

 168th St-Wash Hts to Coney Island via CPW Local, 6th Ave express, Manhattan Bridge, 4th Ave Exp, West End (all times)

 As is 

 Reinstated: Forest Hills 71st to Euclid Ave, Brooklyn via QB Local, 53rd st, 6th Ave Local, Fulton Local (all times)

 Middle Village to Bay Ridge via 4th Ave Local, Nassau St, Broadway/Mrytle all times

 Cut back to Whitehall

Why do this? 2 reasons: More  service to Queens plus demerges both Futlon St and CPW. 

I think I shared a map of a new connection between Jay St on the  tracks to the outer tracks at Hoyt-Schmerhorn Sts a while back.

I had a couple of ideas and one of the things I had to settle on was an at-grade junction for southbound trains coming from Jay St seeing as that area is already complicated enough. Unless there was a connection to the old Court St station that allowed for service to return there, I highly doubt this would be an issue.

Unfortunately, from what I remember hearing this from a TO, the connection isn't possible on Jay St side of things. Something about the lack of bellmouths if I'm not mistaken which would've been very helpful had it been there and less service disruptive. Though, to be fair, the 63 St connector had to widen QBL to allow for both lines to connect.

19 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

I know this was probably asked before, but why was the  chosen to serve 96th St instead of the ?

One assumption I could come up with is that the  for a very long time was the more flexible one in where it operates. Before Astoria, it was to 57 St-7 Av, before 57 St, it was the  to 21 St-Queensbridge (and at some point to Inwood-207 St for however long because half of 8 Av was shutdown), and before that was to 57 St-6 Av. 

The  on the other hand was usually fixed on where it would go and operate along even when it was rerouted between local and express,it stayed consistent in it's routing between Astoria and Coney Island for decades. 

24 minutes ago, MJHmarc said:

R211A 4215 -4219 delivered.. if this was not already posted 

They were transferred earlier this evening to Pitkin Yard.

45 minutes ago, FLX9304 said:

9 hours ago, Kamen Rider said:

maybe you all should have thought about that before you started calling for Airtrain LGA to be canceled, as that would have given the entire Willets Point station complex a full renovation. 

You just stole my words what I was about to say. 

 

If you and the rest of your NIMBY friends and neighbors said no to the Airtrain to LGA, then Mets-Willits Point (Willits Point Blvd originally, and a local station to top it off) would’ve been accessible maybe either now or next year. Be careful of what you wish for! What you didn’t wanted back then is now what you regret now. 

And is anyone complaining about the lack of an Airtrain to LGA? From Mets-Willets Point I should add? I have yet to see anyone really care for that loss.

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Planned - Stops Skipped

In Queens, Manhattan-bound skips 30 Av, Broadway, 36 Av and 39 Av-Dutch Kills

Apr 19 - 22, Fri 11:45 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

For service to these stations, take the  to Queensboro Plaza and transfer to an Astoria-bound .

For service from these stations, take the  to Astoria Blvd and transfer to a Manhattan-bound .

What's happening?

We're making accessibility improvements

Reduced Service

 runs every 15 minutes days and evenings

At Queensboro Plaza all trains arrive/depart on the upper level platform

Apr 20 - 21, Sat and Sun, all day

What's happening?

We're making accessibility improvements

 

 trains are single-tracking around Queensboro Plaza while running express to Manhattan since there's no switch from Astoria to get to the upper level. Very interesting, kinda sucks that they'll be running 15 minute intervals, but can't really do much else.

R211S 105-109 and 110-114 (production sets) are at Kawasaki Plant in Yonkers with one of them waiting for the pilot set to be accepted into service. 

12 minutes ago, Reptile said:

Ok, I think a better idea would be to create an infill station on the 63rd St line at Crescent or 27th Street and 41st Ave that would have a transfer to the since they're only a block away. Would also possibly decrease some transfer congestion, for example a rider going from Astoria to West 4th wouldn't transfer at Herald Square anymore.

But then again the 60th and 63rd St lines run very close so maybe that's not worth the cost.

Don't think it would've been worth the cost either way because of how close said infill station would be to 21 St-Queensbridge. 

17 hours ago, Reptile said:

Would it be a good idea to connect the 60th St tunnel to the SAS and reroute service down 2nd Av?

This would give an opportunity for SAS to have two trains going into Queens if at some point it is upgraded to have 4 tracks. (the other would go via the 63rd st tunnel)

It would also allow connections to the and maybe make the 34th street junction on the more efficient.

Probably not a good idea to split up the 60th St tunnel like this since it's already limited as is with how many trains and 2 other lines running through there. While it frees up how many trains are going through Broadway, that doesn't really give it any service boost either.

50 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Why not just connect the  to the Second Av subway via the transit musuem and a new tunnel and have it run 125th-Court Sq via Hoyt?

As much as I wouldn't mind the  going into Manhattan, it's not possible from Hoyt-Schermerhorn unless you reconstruct the tunnel in the process. Originally, the IND was planning on having Crosstown be part of a loop that would've had the 53 St tunnle be a 4 track tunnel rather than the current 2 track tunel. I'm of the opinion they would've also had IND Jay St portion be 6 tracks wide similar to Hoyt-Schermerhorn Sts layout. This obviously didn't happen because of the Fulton St line coming into the picture after, the IND were rather ambitious people especially how extravagant some of their proposals were along with what we currently see today so it's not far-fetched to think they didn't do something because they just didn't have the finances for such.

Anyway, back on topic, not sure how possible it would be to run the  into Manhattan without being forced to reconstruct the  tunnels in the process. It would definitely be quite expensive to pull off and the incentive to do so isn't that big unfortunately.

7 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

It usually happens during off peak hours (8p-4:30a). There was a since got deleted video of it posted on fb/ig and I myself used to see lewd acts performed while I’m waiting for the train to come. For me I don’t get involved because I don’t want myself being in a situation that can lead to violence. I’m like let it be because it not my call. 

Guess it just boils down to personal experience which I can see to some extent, but obviously my experience is much different than yours. 

1 hour ago, FLX9304 said:

but also: 

people who beat the fares are also the ones who starts the mayhem on the trains from robberies to killings to surfing,

and even having sex on the stations 

As much as I want to agree with you, seems rather out of touch for you to say this 🤷‍♂️.

1 hour ago, Comrade96 said:

they can always just cut the train in 2 and inspect it that way via 2 tracks instead of 1

Not as productive and pretty counterintuitive if you ask me. Even in the short term, it would suck because 5 cars are in the shop while many other 5 car sets have to wait their turn as opposed to yards like Pitkin, CIY, and Jamaica yard being able to handle 10 cars on one track in their shop.

1 hour ago, subway guy said:

Quick question(s) for clarification since I no longer live in NYC:

1. If the goal is to eventually run 10 car C trains, how many R211 sets would it need to do so?

2. Are there enough 46's to run with the 211A's on the A line, move the 10 car R179's to the C line with the R46's and two 211T's?

Thanks!!

There should be enough in the base order to cover for both the  and , the only problem is whether or not 207 St will be able to have 10 car length maintenance shops. Otherwise, those R179's on the  will not be going to the  and neither would the 8 car R179's on the  will be going anywhere. 

5 hours ago, RTOMan said:

Oh i totally forgot about this i guess  now that im switching i dont pay attention that much to Road stuff..

CBTC in effect on this dates along the Culver...

From Kings Highway to West 8th Street all tracks..

Effective 2200 hours on Friday, March I, 2024 - 2359 hours on Sunday March 3, 2024.

Effective 2200 hours on Friday. March 8, 2024 - 2359 hours on Sunday March I 0, 2024.

Effective 2200 hours on Friday, March 15, 2024 - 2359 hours on Sunday March 17, 2024.

So some of yall can go outside and see those flashing greens...

IF its in effect though maybe someone can verify....

Confirmed, saw a video and photo of it in action inside the cab having the same HUD normally seen in CBTC territory.

6 hours ago, TDL said:

Remember, this assumes a complete shutdown of 53rd, meaning only the  and  would be serving Queens Plaza.

The MTA has been running the  via 63 St,  to Chambers St, and the  on it's own at Queens Plaza for the past few Christmas weeks already. Is it going to suck? Yes, but it's still 100% better than the other proposal dragging the  into this mess especially under your proposal having the  run QBL Express. 

7 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Why would the union be against it? It’s more jobs for their workforce.

From what I remember, people on this forum have mentioned it's not a good idea to extend the  because it would piss off crews already on it and would rather not deal with that hence union being against because they represent the workforce. Is it true? I don't know, maybe I'm talking out of my ass, someone would probably know. I don't really care either way, we still don't have enough trains running around for the  to be extended, not now nor for another couple of years at least.

2 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

Most of the push to have  service brought back to QBL (only speaking for this year) stems from the planned summer suspensions that the  wants to do, but politicians are pushing against unless the  extends  service once construction is complete.

I'm still surprised and kinda glad politicians are asking for something in return rather than screw everything during the process like they normally do. Am I opposed to the  returning to Forest Hills? Not really, never really rode the  outside of taking it as an alternative along the IND SBK/Culver. Unfortunately, politicians wouldn't be able to get what they ask for since there still wouldn't be nearly enough trains running around and the union would push against this anyway.

9 hours ago, TDL said:

And the  could run on 63rd. So in total

 

-QBL Local/ 63rd

-QBL Local/Crosstown

-QBL express/63rd

-QBL express/Broadway

I have a few questions:

• Huh?!
• How does this solve anything?
• Why?!

Running the  with the  is one thing, at least there's one less merge to deal with in this scenario. However, having the  run express along QBL while the  is running around too just creates the same exact problem where the  would need to split and cut off the  while merging with the  along with the  cutting off the  in the process. QBL is somehow just as bad if not worse than the current setup, there's no extra service being provided in this scenario. 

2 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said:

They’ve done that closure before, every Christmas week, and the  gets sent to Chambers St during that GO. Really is too bad that you really cannot send the  via 8 Av after Broadway-Lafayette St, then via Central Park West just to keep trains moving. The switches are not available at West 4 St for that operation (moving  trains from WTC to 6 Av and simultaneously moving  trains from Broadway-Lafayette to 8 Av) without crossing over. (Or is there a way?)

Wait, huh? I thought it was possible? I guess I don't really know how the track switches are designed through that area so maybe someone that knows how West 4 St switches work can chime in, but theoretically, it should be possible to have trains swap between 6 and 8 Av local entirely without either of them merging with each other. The only thing that would suck is the  needing to deal with both the  and .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13088129/subway-surfers-sex-moving-7-train.html

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Two male subway surfers are caught having SEX on top of moving NYC train while another films them

• Two men were captured having sex on top of a subway train on Friday 
• They dropped their pants on the roof of the 7 train as it crossed the raised tracks above the Van Wyck Expressway

Don't think I need to go further into detail nor want to know what was said in the article, pretty sure everything here gives the gist of it.

Planned - Part Suspended

No service between Coney Island and W 4 St-Wash Sq, and trains are rerouted in Midtown Manhattan
Mar 1 - 4, Fri 11:30 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

Downtown  runs via the C after 59 St-Columbus Circle to W 4 St-Wash Sq and via the to 2 Av, the last stop.

Uptown  runs via the from 2 Av to 34 St-Herald Sq, and resumes regular service.

Shuttle Bus Free shuttle buses make stops between W 4 St-Wash Sq and Grand St, stopping at Broadway-Lafayette St.

replaces  service in Brooklyn running between 96 St and Atlantic Av and then via the  to/from Coney Island.

(Note:  shuttle also operates in Brooklyn between Coney Island-Stillwell Av and Prospect Park.)

Planned - Part Suspended

In Brooklyn, no  between Atlantic Av and Prospect Park

Service runs in two sections
Mar 1 - 4, Fri 11:30 PM to Mon 5:00 AM

 runs in two sections (every 12 minutes days/evenings):

1. Between 96 St and Atlantic Av, then via the  to/from Coney Island
2. Shuttle train between Prospect Park and Coney Island

Northbound  trains are also rerouted via the  so going to be a very interesting weekend.

7 hours ago, zacster said:

Does CBTC on the 7 allow the TOMC to run?  Even on the express?  It still has to run the section from 34th to QBP.

Anything can go on CBTC activated lines, it'll just be under CBTC bypass using the provided signals along the corridor.

23 minutes ago, MJHmarc said:

Right after the first set went OOS for the signage issue?

Didn't it go out of service cause of door issues or was that another thing to pile on?