PinePower

Yes I can verify the new system is working in the 3G's. Sounds pretty much like the one in use at NJ Transit. They also must've updated the systems on the older buses because "Thank You for Riding Long Island Bus" has been removed as I didn't hear it when the n35 passed the Westbury LIRR. And all the buses I was on today had working announcements. 

Well, for one, sometimes the announcements are clearly wrong . If the announcements for example are one stop off, it would remain that way unless the driver pulled up to a stop, changed the stop name manually, then open and closed the doors. 

 

I'm fairly certain that the announcements are wheel rotation based.

I agree I'm pretty sure they are rotation based. There was GPS on some buses, mostly broken, that was for vehicle location. Today I was on a 3G and the driver was announcing the major stops through the microphone.

little are you kidding what respect? There is none where they live they have little to no service or the service they do have doesn't go to where they want to go and to boot is barely usable while the people they loathe the so called stereotypical vermin in their eyes or poor dragging down LI get frequent to excellent service or decent service that meets their needs OF COURSE THEY WILL HAVE NO RESPECT FOR BUS RIDERS!!!!!!!! It is a so called envy arrogance complex with LIers some are either too good for the bus alot less of these folk that you think I am actually shocked or envious that their bus service is shit or completely oblivious to where buses go or even how to use em. I dare you to ask a normal LIer about N55 they would be like N what? where is that? They couldn't give bus directions to save their life even if they live in front of the line!!!! It's either one of the 3 reasons they look down on bus riders 1: rich arrogance 2:envious of the poor who so call drag LI down getting better service while they have no choice but to drive or 3: HAVE NO CLUE whatsoever and don't know didly squat about buses or where they go or even how to use them and when they do they use the wrong way and get discouraged I met a few of those types who took the wrong way and blamed NICE for their ignorance. 

 

Heck there was this dude who walked 30 mins to the LIRR every time he came to the city simply cause he didn't know any better. When I showed him on google maps that he actually lived directly very close to the N73/74 2 blocks from the bus stop he was shocked!!! He could have used that bus to either wantagh or hicksville instead of walking it and getting tired.  Even with the shit N73/74 he could have used the N70/72 to farmingdale for LIRR to boot.

True, they interviewed one guy on the news at Penn station and he said "I'll be stranded if my train to Great Neck doesn't come" and I felt like saying, no you're not, you can take the 7 to the n20!!NICE needs to do a better job of letting LIRR commuters know about their routes, then again the MTA has handed out fliers in the past about using the bus if LIRR shuts down, it didn't do any good. These ppl are stubborn as bricks. They'd rather pay $60 for a cab home before taking the bus!

I saw those videos the day the meetings happened. People just complaining and complaining more to the county waiting to start the damn meeting.

You gotta admit that shows how little, if any, respect Nassau County has for bus riders!

Note that the n23 Saturday shortruns that used to leave from Roslyn to HTC at 3:43pm and 5:03pm have been moved up to 1:43pm and 3:03pm, even though s/b ridership is heavier later. With spring coming that's definately not good. Pretty much saying if you dont wanna be squashed like a sardine take the LIRR. 

Interesting that it's mostly the shitty ass 1700s that are the bulk of unpainted buses. I guess not even NICE likes those things. I wish they had the $$ to overhaul 'em, new suspensions and replacements for those godawful seats.

If NICE were to put cameras in the back, it would catch the graffiti artists doing their dirty work. But NICE only looks at the video footage of a bus if it gets into an accident. They probably don't have the time to check the footage of every tagged bus just to catch some guy who if caught, will at most get a fine, and that money will go to the County, not NICE. A sign that there are cameras will defer some people, but it won't stop it. Isn't there already a sign in the front of bus that says theres cameras on board?

No there are no signs about cameras. I've only seen them on NJT.

It would cost too much too much to put NCPD on buses just to catch people writing on seats, and if they did it's not like a cop would be on every bus.  Putting cops that make $70,000+ a year on buses would bankkrupt the County in overtime, if you did not do this in overtine you would be taking resources and officers off the street to make sure people would not write on seats.  And you still wouldn't have a cop on every bus, so graffiti could still end up on buses.

 

The problem is the community, if more people took pride in the buses they have to ride and gave the little punks shit when they see them doing this it would stop.  But no one cares.

Well they could put cameras especially in the back with a sign that says that there are cameras. I'm not saying a cop on every bus, just random, like what the NYPD does. We have a serious gang problem on the buses and it was addressed by others at that "meeting" tonight. These gangs like MS13 are large problems in many towns, especially Hempstead, Roosevelt, and Freeport but also now in Westbury and Glen Cove too. NCPD needs to work with these communities to remove these gangbangers from society. But the issue of course goes very deep and deals with the nature of what's happening in these communities with overcrowded homes and criminal aliens. But there's a large lack of respect for the public buses, its not just tagging but trash, lottery tickets, gum, red bull & beer cans, and those seeds often litter the floor, I'm sure its hard to NICE to keep the buses clean. Many at the meeting also spoke of inconsiderate groups of young men hogging up the seats in the front forcing disabled and seniors to stand or walk to the back. The drivers of course are afraid to say anything. I worry its like a community, once it goes downhill and people dont feel safe, they leave, and what's left behind is a rolling gang hangout. It needs to be addressed before NICE becomes like DDOT (Detroit Buses).

A little late, but I rode 1858 on the N32 when I went to Far Rock a few weeks ago. Nice ride and all, but damn it was tagged up. Never seen a new MTA bus get tagged like that so fast.

Unfortunately it's hard to blame NICE, that is the fault of the passengers. Unfortunately the amount of gangbanging trash on the buses is increasing. I'm seeing more of this out in Suffolk too, so its a problem islandwide. I really think undercover NCPD should be riding the buses to catch the scum that's doing this. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing a brand new bus ruined by a bunch of roaches who have no respect for public property.

Rode a 3G like this a month or so ago. And I live in Westbury.

On 7029 right now, damn this thing rings! I'm sure gonna miss these CNGs...

I'll miss 'em too, but I had 7048 on the 137 and it was really struggling, struggling to get up those hills on the pkwy and shuddering alot. Unfortunately they are starting to get worn out. 

They should just give a call to Clever Devices and work out some deal. C'mon, they're in the same county!

The system in the 3G's look exactly like the ones popping up at NJT too. I think it works completely on GPS and not wheel rotation like the old one.

 

What was that thing about rumors again... wasn't it to always take them with a grain of salt?

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're right since it makes zero sense at a time when NICE says they will be adding service. But I do think an n35 extension to serve the Brush Hollow/Jericho shopping area would help increase numbers north of NCC.

....because you've already gone into it enough in the past....

 

The riders in Glen Cove aren't all illegal immigrants.

 

 

It is, but the Baldwin segment is needed for coverage, whereas the Westbury segment has the N22 as an alternative.(I guess if you want, you can count the N24).

The n22 is crowded enough as it is, plus you have students that use the n35 from NCC to Westbury railroad. But an extension to Jericho Quad would add service to a commercial area that would be sure to generate ridership. If you get rid of the n35 north of NCC the n22s will be crush loaded east of RF, and you will lose a one bus connection between the LIRR mainline and NCC. Rush hours you have 20-30 ppl on the bus north of NCC, off hours it drops to around 10. But that's still more than your n51 or n81! It would be an extremely stupid move, especially given what we've been told, that NICE will have more revenue and that service hours will be added, not cut. It's a rumor that came from an Ex-LIB operator, and I hope and pray that's all it is, maybe from a disgruntled employee. 

On Saturdays the n20 Roslyns and n27 are interlined as well. While at Roslyn Rail today I saw an n27 to Glen Cove heading east down Warner Ave and he had a passenger on! Must be the n20 that arrived in Roslyn at 6:56pm, probably goes right on Mineola Ave and then left on Warner. And what's weird is he was the driver I had on the n20 I was on that left Hicksville at 5:01pm, I dunno how he wound up back in Roslyn so fast, except maybe he changes buses in Great Neck? I dont understand why they just couldn't make them n21s, maybe change the n21 route to run 25a to Glen Cove Rd then n27 route to Glen Cove. Transfer at Clock Tower from n23. Most n21 riders travel from Glen Cove and not many get on or off from Shore Rd/Roslyn Harbor, which is the unproductive portion of the route. 

Tell that to the people in SE Nassau.

 

 

The N14 & N62 are feeder routes. If you want to consider the routes that go into Queens as feeder routes to the subway, you can add those routes to the mix.

 

 

Define "lots". Glen Cove doesn't have a high poverty rate.

The few people that do ride those routes were very vocal at meetings and to their legislators. The riders in Glen Cove dont get involved for certain reasons that I'm not going to get into here.

Ohh well if you don't use your bus you lose your bus plain and simple.

Preaching to the choir much. I had to run across hempstead tpk I meant deathtrap to catch a bus that traffic is well it makes queens blvd look safe!!! when I had to take N70/72/71

 

You do realize N27's weekday service to roosevelt field has been restored full-time right? It's on weekends that it is still well useless.

 

I think they need to either make N1 go to jamacia full-time or at least into queens Or bring back the LTD. If people wanted faster service to hempstead they would use the LIRR anyway. N6 has a completely different purpose. So what did you think about trailways getting you to WP directly from SE queens? On a side note.

I think it's more a matter of complaining. Glen Cove riders just dont complain, because they dont care. Yes I realize the n27 runs to RF weekdays but they need to have the service pattern that runs middays extended to weekends too. The n23s are jammed and riders are still missing connections in Roslyn. But they dont complain, so I guess they deserve it? And here's a new rumor from a bus operator I know, the n35 may not run past NCC to Westbury anymore. The n22 is crowded enough, if that happens it game over for me in Westbury and time to pack my bags since the n35 is the bus I take and am not gonna jam on the n22 and walk past a bunch of drunks downtown in summer.

It would be good for bus service if the County gets a Democrat in office, but its gonna be hard to get him voted into office again given the rich like Mango.

I do remember MTA having budget problems under Suozzi as well. But Mangano took it to an all new low, cutting that bus subsidy to the measley 2.6 million, just a fraction of what it was, and privatization. I want to see Suozzi take on Mangano with this issue, especially being that he's from Glen Cove. Which makes me wonder if those April 8th cuts were political in the 1st place, as Mangano wanted to hit Glen Cove hard. The never would've screwed Glen Cove like that.

If I could be bothered to get my SD card out of my phone, I'd upload a picture of the N20 shelter by Hicksville station... literally none of the sidewalks around there were cleaned and people either had to walk through 5' high snow drifts or stand dangerously close to traffic (like I did) just to wait for a bus.  It's amazing how people look down on non-drivers here.

It's disgraceful. Many sidewalks on busy roads are covered in mounds of snow. Isn't there a fine for not clearing the sidewalk? If there isnt then there should be, and it should be enforced. Considering how the county and towns are hurtingh for revenue, you'd think they'd enforce it. But then again, if you don't own a car you're looked at as less desirable than a pile of fresh dog crap.

News 12 did a report saying NICE bus was running on a regular Saturday schedule....  However, beware of the trickery of News 12!  When they were saying this they showed 1729 stuckin the snow, if you looked closely the bus and salt truck were marked MTA Long Island bus, they were using footage from the 2010 blizzard but made no mention of that....

Often these news stations dont update their B-Roll footage. I will have to hand it to NICE, they did an excellent job throughout this storm.

I think the 58 carries more than the 62, Mon-Sat those buses are pretty busy. On a Saturday the S58 is much busier than the 62. Hence the 58 should get Sunday service before the S62.

I took 17:35 n21 Flushing #1726, which departed very late around 17:54. Do you know what I notice? By the front door, there was vintage photo of Jackie Gleason Bus #2969!!

I know that driver, he's very friendly and was with LIB prior to NICE.

Interesting catch on the corner of Privado Rd and Merchants Concourse, apparently they had a detour because a traffic light was out at Privado and Merrick. The light is fixed by the sign is still up. Note the paper it was printed on...

It sort of has - a few select trips in the AM and PM end up terminating at Hempstead.

 

I do hope the 43 extension and 16x help pick up the slack, though, because the N35 was the best route for NCC students not wanting to deal with traffic by the front entrance and the social service building.

We'll see, I'm not sure what the busiest times at the college are, I figure morning and afternoon/eve are. I just hope they dont pull an n21 with the n35 and make it rush hours only, because that would be a disaster (especially for me).

Alot of NCC students are already unhappy with NICE. It certainly doesn't help reducing service there, but I doubt Mr.Kumar (the guy who is in charge of scheduling) knows how busy NCC can get, heck he even confused the towns of Nassau when he spoke at last year's Community Meeting.

Who's Helena Williams? Glassdoor.com reports that a just a department manager makes over $60,000 year, sounds like a decent job. Why do think someone you think is clueless should have a decent job with a decent salary? This is why tou confuse the hellmout of me sometimes...

 

I'm more referring to her attire. Looks like top end stuff from Saks.

http://lirr42.mta.in...nInfo.php?id=39

 

So apparently the N37 is still alive and the N8 runs to Hempstead now!

 

Well that's the other problem, Helena Williams, who is absolutely clueless and should be a manager of Saks Fifth Ave.

This is what everyone has been saying all along (even you sometimes)...

 

It sounds like Veolia may even getting sick of Nassau judging by the response they are now giving out to anyone who writes in....

 

Wonder if they will walk away? We all know Nassau County has to step up funding, but Mangano and everyone else in Mineola could care less.