Thanks for the info Bussdriverwannabe but I am sort of a step up in that process..i work for Access-a-Ride so I already have my C licence with pass endorsement, I need to do my air brakes for sure and I will do the school bus just in case. I have quite a lot of experience driving large vehicles beside the Access-a-ride bus, so as far as the road test I should be okay but I am not a great test taker. When I first did my general and pass I failed twice..then I got it together on the third try. On one of my days off I am going to go for it. I do have a question for you in how much period of time does your B-permit expire, 6- months or a year? Because I heard it use to be a Year but they cut it down to 6 months.