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Thinking about this for awhile, I don't see any reason why they cant run the  on weekends.  It has better frequencies than the  whenever it runs.

6 hours ago, Lance said:

Both the and got their current fleet of cars brand new with both the 62As and the 68s respectively. They'll likely receive whatever is to replace those two classes.

Which line loses the R62/62As first,  or  ?

I'm pretty sure I've never seen any other fleet on the  and  except what they run now, which I'm pretty sure has been consistent since the mid-late 80s. It'll probably remain that way til 2035 at least

Trains that'll never get a new fleet.

Sometimes you get lucky when a BxM1, 2, or 3 operator is a speed demon flooring it down Madison Ave or 3rd Ave to get to the Deegan. It's always north of 80th St when its really noticable, and usually only on northbound trips.

Why did they ever remove R62s from the  around 2003/2004? That kinda took the heart and soul out of that express line. I dont think its ever been the same since the "This is a Manhattan bound 4 train, the next stop is ..." have overtaken the line...

1 hour ago, Daniel The Cool said:

The actual reason was they wanted to keep to make it easier for the  to use each other R32s/R38s if needed since both lines were already at Pitkin Yard as well as it being easier for the  Trains to borrow each other's fleet if needed (Which they still do to this day) or in better words, better yard access. The other reason was to eliminate those Friday night moves where they had to run a few OOS  Trains from Concourse Yard to 135th Street layup to 174th Street Yard which I heard it was causing congestion.  

 

This was said in the old SubTalk Site btw when it was announced.

Interesting stuff. I wonder what went on behind the scenes with all these 80s/90s moves within the subway system

3 minutes ago, RR503 said:

 was already a long line. BPB made it longer. 

The fact it went to 8th ave and that now Concourse only has 6th ave services doesn’t/didn’t matter. Anyone from north of 125 who wants 8th (or 6th) dumps the local like shit on fire at their first convenient express stop. Hell, I’ve seen people ride north from 116 to catch the express at 125. 

No one wants to suffer through those additional 7 stops. 

But they still got the  going local from BPB via Concourse to 59th St, making every stop along the way

Why did they ever stop running the  to Bedford Park with the  ?

6 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

I wouldn't run the things to Inwood at all; those folks in-particular generally don't take the M100 or the Bx7 past 168th..... I also have no interest in running M98's there to have anything done to the BxM1..... Having BxM1's skip Inwood is an entirely separate issue.

I would much rather cut some trips short at 125th (w/ the M103) than to have trips either [panning south towards 168th] or [panning north towards 220th, or any part of Inwood in general].... I don't want to create a Q52/Q53 situation w/ this M98 where the situation doesn't present itself.....

the new route to Inwood would be the M99, different from the M98 north of 125th, as it would take the HRD all the way up to Dyckman. Then It would serve Inwood.

How about a new LTD route along Lex/3rd Avs, the M99, between E Midtown and E Harlem, then up the HRD to Inwood, serving Dyckman St and Broadway terminating at Bway/220th St. This would eliminate the Inwood service on the BxM1 and make that a quicker route, as well as giving Inwood residents an express route to Midtown for $2.75

I like this idea of shortening the really long routes a bit.

I'm thinking terminating the M101 at 125th St/1st Ave where the M100 ends is pretty good.

The M2 and M4 both could be truncated to 96th St/Madison Ave (except late nights for the M2)

install a new route (M13) making all local stops on 5th/Madison Avs between 8th St & 106th St, route will replace M106 along 106th St and terminate at 106th St/FDR Drive

keep the M3 and add full time limited service except for late nights.

extend M5 back to Houston St like the pre 2010 days

renumber M55 back to M6 and install a new southbound route via 7th Ave, 32nd St, broadway

extend the M1 back to South Ferry just like the pre 2010 days, also revert back to Park Ave south of 40th St

extend M10 and M104 down to Penn Sta, terminating at 31st St.

increase frequencies on the M102 and M103 as they are now the only two Lex/3rd Avs routes. Also implement Limited service on the M102

with the M106 eliminated, more resources will be used for the M96 and the new M13.

M98 extended back down to 34th St.

this is all for better Manhattan service

On 12/15/2017 at 6:31 PM, Missabassie said:

Yes they have, when the RFK has some incident. This re-route takes significantly longer.

But when there's no incident on the RFK I feel like they would kill a lot of time and beat traffic

I wonder if any northbound BxM6/7/8/9/10/11s have skipped the RFK bridge hassle and taken the Willis Ave Bridge to Bruckner Blvd/Bruckner Expwy. Wonder how much time that would save

4 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

lol When does this happen? I rarely use the to get to Riverdale because it isn't all that fast compared to the (the last few stops Northbound are especially painful and slow), plus I'm limited to just the Bx7 bus if it is late at night. I went that way once years ago to avoid backtracking to the express bus and I said never again. The was express but still slow, and waiting for the Bx7 there were rats running all over the place by Isham Street. That apartment building has an alley and it's infested with rats and I do mean rats. They were bigger than my shoes. 

When I get the  or  home from work at night (I get on at Chambers St) it doesnt matter which one i get because theyre both going local. They're always being held up somewhere along the line too, sometimes for 10 minutes

8 hours ago, S78 via Hylan said:

They can be if any incident happens on the Manhattan Bridge that requires it to temporarily close until whatever issue clears up.

I remember as a kid when they only ran to 34th St under Manhattan bridge construction. That took the soul and identity out of the  and  

Anybody else tired of express trains constantly running local... especially the  

The  and  are being rerouted to Montague??

Anyone here think the Q2 and Q8 should be combined into one route.

How will all the detoured routes be affected tomorrow for the marathon?

2 hours ago, NY1635 said:

Queens Blvd during the PM is worst than the LIE, especially between Roosvelt Ave and the approach to the Queensboro Bridge.

The QM1/5/6 should use the LIE to the GCP to Union Tpke. It could kill a ton of time, especially in non rush hour

Just now, Cait Sith said:

Zerega? I know there's one sitting at the JFK vendor facility, but not Zerega....any pics?

 

You can't be serious. All of the new buses have higher horsepower than the older buses.

That's one hell of an over-exaggeration. If the hybrids couldn't handle Riverdale, they wouldn't be on the Riverdale lines to begin with.

Also, sound isn't everything.

Those RTSs were powerful rocketships, and I've ridden both the old and the new. The older buses had more speed, and power, and will probably get way more years than these newbies

Does anyone notice that the  has the best frequency of all the CPW lines yet it's the only one that doesn't run on weekends.

13 hours ago, James Goodwin said:

MTA has been buying Low Floors in bulk since at least 2000, this is nothing new.

the only good low floors are the older Orion VII CNGs. Other than that, the buses all sound the same, and have a weak sound to them. The RTSs could get you from Riverdale Ave/263rd St to Riverdale Ave/231st St in 10 min. The hybrids take 20 min. Even Orion Vs had stronger sounding engines.  And those MCI Classics were speeding bullets going 70mph on the Deegan

15 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

I prefer the low floors because of the easy boarding and layout overall, but the drawback is feeeling every single bump... It's like your body takes the role of the shocks. I also hate the way these new buses jerk you around. If you don't hold on you can go flying for the smallest stops.

the new buses also don't have much power or a unique sound identity to them