Spypenguin

Just now, R10 2952 said:

Because that's where the New York Central Railroad tracks were; the West Side had freight service from the 1840s until the 1980s and potential interference with those operations, whether real or imagined, was used as a rationale to not have els or subways on the Far West Side.

Additionally, the IRT Ninth Av El provided service until June 1940

42 minutes ago, FamousNYLover said:

@Wallyhorse is not reading carefully. 60th St tunnel is not closed.

In this hypothetical situation (a flood) if the subway tubes both north and south of the 60th St Tunnel are flooded, it is okay to presume that the 60th St Tunnel would be flooded too. The response of @Wallyhorse was more effective than the suggestion of just cramming the , with it's 12+ tph during rush hours, in the tunnel with the  and . 

7 hours ago, RR503 said:

See the quoted post -- this is a conceptual phasing to convert Westchester Square  to an express stop so that local trains can turn there rather than at Parkchester.

It could work at Rockaway Blvd, though I don't know why you'd want to do that, and it'd be impossible at 72 without *major* spending. 

Would running the Far Rockaway/B 116  express during AM/PM rush hours and middays between Grant Av and Rockaway Blvd help reduce the 's runtime? 80th St and 88th St would be similar to 75th Av and Van Wyck Blvd where  service is only during evenings, late nights, and weekends.

1 hour ago, Lex said:

They don't even have the excuse of the  serving different areas (at this point, the  is just a local  that short-turns on both ends).

This just plays into the psychological aspect of favoring express service, which is far more appropriate for trains serving the Rockaways (much greater distance to cover).

Would dwell times at Rockaway Blvd  incur a considerable impact during the AM rush?

On 7/31/2019 at 9:35 PM, Union Tpke said:

 

1. Norwood Avenue  — East New York Group 1

Crescent St might be a better choice to become ADA-accessible. It connects with the B13 bus which goes to Euclid Av and Myrtle-Wyckoff: both of which are already ADA-accessible. Crescent St also had more than 51% additional ridership than Norwood Av in 2018. The elevators at Crescent would help when the  is cut back from Jamaica to Crescent since the shuttle buses do not go to Norwood. Stations from Broadway Junction to Woodhaven Blvd  would still be 2 or less stations away from an ADA-accessible station if plans were to change. However, customers from Cleveland St and Norwood Av would have to travel farther to reach an ADA-accessible station if plans ever changed (Cypress Hills  would be closer to an ADA-accessible station).

On 11/9/2018 at 9:43 AM, Lance said:

You know, these threads used to be really annoying to me. Now, I find them quite amusing simply because everyone gets up in arms on being perceived as wrong about where they think the trains will go. You'd think it wouldn't be such a big deal, especially since none of the cars are actually leaving service. We'll all still be able to see our favorite cars (or least favorite - looking at you 32s) still on the rails for the foreseeable future, just not where they currently reside.

With that said, we do have an idea of which lines will receive which trains, simply by order of necessity. As mentioned, Queens Blvd is slated to receive CBTC signaling in the next few years, requiring all services on that line using NTTs, which means the 46s from the and have to go elsewhere in return for more 160s. There are few options where such a swap can occur without rearranging the entire system or creating an operational crisis. Immediately following Queens Blvd CBTC installation, we'll see the implantation of such signaling on the lower half of 8th Avenue, probably towards the latter half of the 2020s if we're being generous. While that won't push too much of the older fleet around as the incoming 211 order will eventually replace everything older than the 68s, it's almost guaranteed that the   and will definitely be the mainstays of the older fleet in the coming years, with such prospects remaining a strong possibility for the and  depending on how likely Transit feels either line will be rerouted to the 8th Avenue mainline.

Why would the  need NTTs after the Canarsie shutdown? Service levels on the Jamaica El should return to the current service once the 14th St tube reopens. Does it have to do with the removal of signals on the curve going into/coming out of Marcy from/to the bridge? Or the removal of signals on the Willy B itself?

Sorry to hear that you got stuck and your commute was so long. Just so you know, the scheduled time savings by taking an express train from 36th St to Atlantic-Pacific is about 3.5 minutes. The (R) train can be your friend too.  Thanks for a heads-up about the Atlantic-Jamaica LIRR suspension.

Holiday Trains will be running from 2nd Av - Lower East Side to 96th St on the Second Avenue Line this year.

Yes, they run around the old south ferry loops to wall street and change ends there.

On which platform would the Brooklyn-bound train change ends at Wall Street?

I would use it to transfer to the if going back to Manhattan. And because the Flushing-8 Avenue market does exist, the - - or - - is also an option. During the evenings, I would rather take the first train that comes at Jackson Heights–Roosevelt Avenue than wait for an express .

Those two three-legged routes are only available late nights. Otherwise it is,  - - -  or  - - - .

When and where do AM and PM rush hour put ins occur on the  ? (via Coney Island or City Hall?)

They are still in beta testing, so I can't say I'm surprised.

 

In other news, for those unaware, I've updated the so-called Vignelli Hybrid maps to include general information upcoming long-term service changes, as well as those already in progress. Also, since Select Bus Service has become so ubiquitous as of late, stations now display SBS route and airport connections.

 

 

Daytime Version

 

 

Night Version

 

I've also digitized the original 1972 Vignelli map, taking a few liberties with the line colors. Instead of the slight variations between lines on the original map, I've retained the colors as intended according to the sign standards manual. Take a look at the difference:

 

 

Original

 

 

Recreation

 

Recreated 1972 Vignelli Map 

 

Stay tuned for more...

Is there a way to see more of your maps on Dropbox?

Service Change  Posted: 08/18/2016  9:36AM 
 

Due to a train with mechanical problems at Coney Island-Stillwell Av, northbound  trains are running on the  line fromConey Island-Stillwell Av to 36 St (Brooklyn).

Allow additional travel time.

 via Sea Beach Express?