EastFlatbushLarry

2 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

They also store the coaches at JFK.

yes, they do. mostly when they're being serviced.

2 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

I’ve always been curious about the Q41, is it split between JFK and FR because I could have sworn some of its trips interlined with the Q6, Q8 and Q9?

in the past there were definitely terminal interlines with the 8 & 9 at Jamaica terminal when it ran out of JFK. the interlines that currently occur on the 41 are from the JFK Q6/7/8/9 school trippers iinm

2 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

IIRC, the 41 is a JFK route. Far Rock has the 11, 21, 22, and 35.

Q41 used to be based out of JFK. it's definitely based out of Far Rock. it got sent there when the 52 became sbs and was sent to JFK.

5 minutes ago, poopybutt123 said:

Coneheads don’t really go to Far Rockaway so that’s at least post worthy 

if it shows up on any of the FR routes, then it can be posted in the random section, providing the bus number, run number and route. the reason why people don't post transfers between FR and JFK (regardless of how noteworthy it is) is because they're rather frequent. and even then, it's not verified if it will run in revenue service.

57 minutes ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

Doesn’t mean much when both depots share the same bus pool.

I thought it was established that posting "transfers" between JFK & Far Rock wasn't necessary since they are under one management (AGM, etc)

59 minutes ago, RSMG106 said:

Meredith is going to shut down after the end of the 2024 Summer Pick. This is due to the fact that they have a 15-year lease since 2009, and that the did not want to renew the lease.

they leased a plot of land for 15 years, with no plans whatsoever to build anywhere on the island in the meantime, and no contingency plan(s) going forward. so what exactly was the point of having a Meredith "Depot" in the first place? is it a case of they just don't need a 4th depot or annex on staten island anymore or was this another case of wasted time/money with the "powers that be" sitting around circle-jerking with their thumbs up their collective asses? I'm seriously asking... no sarcasm.

1 hour ago, Cait Sith said:

So, this isn't completely official yet, as it's pending FTA approval, but Green Mountain Transit up in Vermont is planning to transfer 7 2013 MCI D4500CTs over to NYCT. These buses have not been used in service for some time. I can definitely see Castleton getting all 7 of these.

There is a pretty good chance that these will also be in the new scheme, just completely wrapped. Whether or not the signs or the alcoas will remain will be up for debate(they'll likely get swapped out).

7 buses with no reimbursement fee for approximately 3+ years of service (which will more than likely be more than 3, depending on the depot & runs they run on)

p.s. they previously ran in Vermont of all places. there's no way they're beat to shit. sounds like perfection to me.

17 hours ago, MHV9218 said:

Am I dating myself, or was there not a practice years ago where 'x'-runs were used for put-ins or otherwise irregularly-scheduled service? I remember you'd have your regular departures and then a couple x-runs particularly during the PM rush that had run numbers of a totally different form. This was also back when a lot of OA depots had simple run numbers like 001-040 instead of three-digit runs like MTAB was using. Most put-ins borrowed from another depot would run with an x- run.

it was definitely an OA thing before the creation of MTA Bus.. and it was definitely utilized thru Local 100 before the consolidation, specifically with wildcat runs & lines with split runs iinm. these days I've only seen x-runs as extras from Manhattanville (specifically on the M98) aside from that, these days it's hella rare. 

19 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

"MCDONALD" (like it's a neighborhood or something... I always get tripped out by that)

i can't find anyone to explain why the B35 short sign is displayed in this fashion these days. i absolutely hate it, and i don't understand (letalone care) why it was changed.

this is why they're ass backwards.. after an eternity of the B6 sign displaying Bensonhurst ÷ Harway Av, they change it to 25 Av - Cropsey, meanwhile, McDonald Avenue or Av? too confusing/too much going on.. let's shorten it 🤦🏾‍♂️

4 hours ago, xD4nn said:

He had a whole bunch of trips left and it was like mid-day. 

the b/o could've been going on swing (performing a pull-in) been assigned a deadhead or been instructed by console to run light due to lateness. there are MANY reasons why a b/o leaves a terminal without servicing the stand. just because a bus arrives at a terminal, doesn't necessarily mean it's truly assigned to be the next bus to depart from said terminal. ask any b/o. these things do happen, especially during middays.

I sincerely hope people on this forum understand that our full paddle reports are NOT displayed online via apps/websites like TransSee for a damn good reason. TransSee (for example) doesn't display pull outs & pull ins... and they shouldn't.

3 hours ago, 7-express said:

I can't find any information about this but does it mean anything when a control ID on a bus is two digits followed by an X?  This was observed on an express bus from College Point Depot.

not really. x is not used with run numbers internally (at least on paddles)

x is usually used as a placeholder. for example, if a b/o has run number 021, some operators will display it as x21, 2x1 or 21x. in this case, it's used as a placeholder for zero, for any assortment of reasons, especially when it pertains to the manual run boxes. sometimes, when hitting potholes, the run box's numbers will slip, from zero to x or from 5 down to 4, etc.

2 hours ago, Ex696 said:

What made the MTA decide to increase overnight service on most routes? Has there been an increase in the amount of night shift workers?

yes, and since there are more people who have jobs that start at 4am/5am, those hourly overnight routes that currently exist aren't doing them any good

having glanced the documents, i will say the Q11/21 combo is a rather pleasing development. having overnight service end at 157 & Cross Bay as opposed to Pitkin makes alot more sense. the Old Howard Beach/Hamilton Beach combination (serving both branches simultaneously) seems like something they should've been doing going back to the GBL days (much like this routing in general, if I'm being real)

😂🤣 i see they backed away everso gingerly from a few stupid combos (Q10/64 and Q1/6)

ok! they kept the Q41 intact (kinda). i would love to see the service hours expand, especially with the lakewood avenue routing, but i guess you can't have it all.

sending 112's to euclid 🤔 I've seen that idea on this forum in days gone by.

well damn! they ended the Q44 to Fordham foolishness!

114's ridership demand via redfern projects (and Lawrence, LI) is so robust to bring an end to the Q113? damn.

On 12/6/2023 at 9:58 PM, Cait Sith said:

I'm going to reiterate this again.

Just because someone says its permanent, it doesn't mean that it's actually permanent.

And how do you know management says that? If this comes from those kids on Discord, I wouldn't believe them at all.....

"management"... meaning whom exactly? what do they consider "management" ? the AGM? GS of transportation? GS of maintenance? because with all due respect, i don't think any respectable GS or AGM is passing along info to self proclaimed foamers/fan boys. just my opinion.

43 minutes ago, Q43LTD said:

You can barely make out that map

i was thinking the same thing. i figured it was unofficial, i just wanted a link to a clearer image to assess. i don't know why, but i believe they're not even close to an official "final" draft, and that release date will be pushed back further.

3 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

Yup, yup. The current depot will still be active during the time the new one is being constructed.

OPINION bit: That’s smart imo. Also, Moving routes and buses over to Stengel and QV would have been a logistical nightmare.

they really have no choice but to keep JA active. even if BP or JFK weren't in Bus Co./different union locals, i can't imagine them being able to help much capacity wise. 

3 hours ago, danielhg121 said:

Just had a thought but wouldn’t it be easier to fold the Hudson Riverlink buses that Metro-North contracts outside to an in-house NYCT operation? I know the funding sources would prob be different but wouldn’t this be an easier solution? They could use older buses that are about to be retired instead of high-floor buses.

not necessarily. for those contracts, those companies and bus operators would more than likely be solely (or primarily) focused on providing those services. the issue with NYCTA/MaBSTOA/Bus Company is that operators have to be scraped together to provide those services as overtime, so it can be considered a very unreliable service model if I'm being honest. plus, as is stated in the documents, those companies are being contracted based on close proximity to the MNR lines that need coverage over the duration of the contract (60 months)

clearly, they don't want to utilize NYCT equipment traveling those distances to provide those services anymore. plus, I'd find it very hard to believe that MNR customers will be content with riding on beat-to-s**t Orion 7 OG's/NG's. 

On 11/18/2023 at 8:46 PM, xD4nn said:

Will they move buses/routes around to other depots temporarily? 

iinm transit has a lease agreement with York College for their unused lots to store buses. it's yet to be determined if Jamaica Depot will operate as is with the usage of those lots or if some lines will be temporarily displaced.

18 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Is there a reason the Q70 does not serve Terminal A?

I'm assuming it's for the same reason why the Q48, Q72 & M60 don't directly serve it.. no overall benefit

18 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

Does the MTA really save that much money, by ending the B46 at Fillmore Ave, three blocks short of Kings Plaza?

in a word, yes.

i definitely see how customers can view the fillmore short signs (and the 46sbs avenue N short signs) as a inconvenience/annoyance, but management only started utilizing the fillmore signs as a way to cut run times across the board. there are several relief runs that start at fillmore and quite frankly, having done several late(r) runs on the 46 LTD/lcl (in years past) it made absolutely no sense to bypass the depot, carry air into KP on a pull in trip and sit on the fuel line longer than necessary. even during some periods of the day, it makes absolutely no sense to run EVERY single trip to KP... especially now with artics clogging up space (as was mentioned beforehand)

9 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

The Glenwood houses, what neighborhood you got it in? East Flatbush, Canarsie, or Flatlands?

i can't lie, having gone to PS 135, Roy H. Mann & South Shore (and having family that currently lives in Glenwood) that area is TECHNICALLY the flatlands. however, most people in Glenwood (at least the older generations) will claim East Flatbush based on their own family connections and the street beefs that the 40's and 50's share against the 90's (and now the 80's) the newer generations try to tie themselves to Canarsie, but that's total bull IMO.

as you know, the thing about these areas is that there isn't much of a drastic difference economically or culturally. we all went to the same schools (the multitude that exist in those areas) and we all have family that live in and around these areas. to this day, i have family (mother's & father's) that all live within relative walking distance from each other, from Troy & Foster, to Albany & Farragut, to 56th & H, ect. i have plenty of schoolmates & friends/family that can say the same thing, and we've all had these debates in school or on the block, regarding what constitutes as E. Flatbush or not. Joey Badass, the rapper/actor, claims E. Flatbush, even though he grew up on New York Avenue, which to some of us that doesn't count at all, but ultimately, it truly depends on who you ask. IMO the lines have always been blurred based upon what block you grew up on and what schools you went to, however I do have my own definition of what the borderlines are.

1 hour ago, B35 via Church said:

With Remsen Village, it depends who you ask whether if it's [a subsection of East Flatbush] or [it's own separate neighborhood]

growing up on east 49th & Tilden, we always looked at Remsen Village as a part of us (East Flatbush) based solely on shared schools/school zones (Meyer Levin, Tilden HS, etc) the closer you get to rockaway pky, they definitely viewed themselves as their own separate entity.

3 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

There was no branch. The Brooklyn Terminal Market was the only terminus at the time. As you pointed out it was moved from the market to Brookdale .

well...

there was a brief period that the B8 served both the Brooklyn Terminal Market and Brookdale. eventually what happened was that the Brooklyn Terminal Market branch became part-time service with most runs being sent to terminate at Brookdale until they finally eliminated the BTM branch. during this time, the 8 was running out of Ulmer Park. iinm by the time East NY had the B8 (albeit briefly) the BTM branch was gone.

7 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

...How did things get so bad for TU? 

i know for a fact that several mechanics & chassis maintainers there have high seniority and imo aren't as "motivated" to perform... ask anyone who's worked in 100 st over the past decade or so and they more than likely will say the same. lowkey it's been that way going back to when d60HF's were dominant in that depot. even dealing with cleaners in that depot... same shit. there are quite a few dinosaurs in the aforementioned departments who are mentally already retired... just hanging out to get the best 3 salary years to put toward their pensions. and I'm speaking of current individuals who i can personally identify... that have history in Hudson Pier, Walnut & Amsterdam (mid to late 90's). i can't front, I'm patiently waiting for the day some new blood gets injected into that building.

2 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

Thanks, why I asked is because I remember some years back maybe 2016, I was on one of the Lexington Ave routes and the bus was only going to 34th street and then he was going to head back uptown. I don’t recall seeing a 34th street code but I remember I ended up just walking to 6th Ave and taking one of the trains over there to go downtown. 

In my experience, a SLD will call and instruct you to make 34 street your last stop, but since there's no 34th code, they usually have you enter 42 street, then NEXT BUS PLEASE the rest of the way. what's crazy about 34th street is that the few time i was instructed to end there, i had to service the stop and use 24th street to head back uptown. very rare to be told to make the left off lex onto 34. however at 42nd, they'd allow it. go figure.

2 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

Doesn’t the M101/102/103 have other short turn programs for a lot of the major east & west streets it passes like 34th, 42nd, 72nd streets? 
I know the 96th street program is used a lot. 

having worked out of 100 street, the downtown m103 short signs are for cooper union, 24th street & 42nd street. iinm there is/was a short sign for Chinatown as well (I've never seen it on the road or used it personally)

the downtown m101/102 short signs are 24th street, 42 street and 96.

the uptown m101 shorts are 161 (there's no limited specific code, so limiteds use the local code while being required to announce it) 125-Amsterdam, 125th & 3rd, 116 street and of course 96 street.

the uptown m102 has 125-Lenox, 116 & 3rd, and 96.

to my recollection, the 103 only has 96 as a uptown short sign. there was a downtown 96 that they stopped using a while ago (at least to my knowledge). they just decided to make runs pull in from 125th and call it a day.