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Off topic here but who's actually going to film the R32s tomorrow? 

12 minutes ago, Bill from Maspeth said:

Explain to me why, when I was working as a train operator, when somebody presses his ass against a cab door and cuts a stinky fart, I was able to smell the stink to the point where the stench lasted in the cab for several minutes?

There are openings in the cab door where you, while standing at the RFW, can peek thru the little holes to watch what the t/o is doing as well as an opening where the cab door meets up with the lock/latch. Plus there has to be some gap between the frame and the cab door itself so the door has room to open and close.  The t/o certainly does not have an air tight workspace as you imply. 

This is what pisses me off: when people who never done the job come thru like an expert.

Honestly the 32s coming back now is super legendary but you have to ask yourself.... it it worth braving the pandemic to film on the  or anywhere else? There is a huge risk for the operator, conductor and passengers who are taking the subway right now as life slowly is going back to normal. Phase 3 is supposed to begin next week so there will be an increase in ridership. The subways aren't really that crowded at all now even with phase 2 open. Can someone notify if Times Square - 42 St, the busiest station, is showing signs of life with busy platforms? 😂

13 hours ago, R32 3838 said:

 

I think the majority of the order is gonna be between pitkin and Jamaica with a chunk to Coney Island.

So does this mean that a couple may pop up on the  and ? Also is CBTC currently in effect on the westbound Queens Blvd line? 

59 minutes ago, CF2 said:

Hello! This is my first time posting a comment to a forum. I am an MTA T/O and I work vacation relief. I do respect the knowledge of you guys concerning all things transit. I just want to know what you think about the following: I'm noticing that a few workers on the A line like the R160s. I've even heard some say they would rather keep them. They don't want the R179s back. However, what we wish for is usually not what takes place. With that said, what do you think about the R179s NOT going back to the A, but to somewhere else? Now there are 13 10-car R179s (3010-3049 and 3238-3327). There are 12 Siemens R160s on the N/Q/W. So howsabout a 'straight-up trade': the 10-car R179s go to N/Q/W and the Siemens R160s plus a R46 (preferably 5870-5873 and 5874-5877) go to the A line. Note: For car number uniformality, 8888-8892, 8913-8917, 8938-8942, and 8978-8982 go to JYD; 8983-8987, 8988-8992, 8998-9002, and 9013-9017 go to the A line. JYD would then have 8843-8982 and the A line would have 8983-9102. Now I realize that this WILL NOT HAPPEN! There's been so much transferring as is. Just want to know if you guys would go along with this to appease A line workers.

Hey there hmm that's an interesting proposition. We all know that the R160s on the  wouldn't have occurred if the R179 fleet didn't have to be pulled from service.  I also don't think that the TA wants to place the R179s on the  because operators are morely used to R68A's, R46's and R160s. Personally, they just wouldn't feel right. Once the returns to normal service, The R160s on the  will need to go back to  since it will probably have to put all 46 R160s in service when ridership increases significantly. QBL can't run old tech now because of CBTC. Again my theories and opinions here guys. 

14 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

I can guarantee you that the average riders don’t know or care about what car classes arrive at their station. They want to get from point A to point B period. If an R179, R160, R32, R9, or BMT Standard pulls into the station the average person will board that train. I’ve had people try to board the garbage train, the money train (collector), an IRT transfer at 125 St and St. Nick on the IND. Let’s get this straight. A Rail fan, buff, aficionado, whatever you want to call them, are by definition a very small part of the riding public. The issue(s) with the R179 fleet will be corrected just like any other rail cars in the system and the press and the average riders will move on with their lives. There have been passenger injuries and deaths in the past yet John and Jane Q. Public never quit riding the subway.  Rail fans might obsess over this. No one else will. Just my take. Carry on.

Yeah, you are right. Literally survey 20 people on any platform and 19 of them won't know that train model is about to arrive. Most of the public uses it for getting from point A to point B like you said haha. Occasionally, you might find a couple transit fans(once in a blue moon lol). When I'm riding the B/D it is very hard to tell the difference and the only way I can distinguish is by looking to see if the car numbers begin with 2 or 5 for either R68/R68A.

1 hour ago, Bill from Maspeth said:

The R179's will not be scrapped once the R211's are here, PERIOD.  they will not piss away $600 million bucks, or whatever they cost for reasons already stated.

Plus don't blame Bombardier 100% for the problems.  The sub-contractors share much of the blame too.

Yeah you are right and I agree but after all that's happened, I'm sure many riders are skeptical about riding the R179s. Who knows what can transpire next? When the R179s came out in 2017 they encountered so many mechanical problems then things just went downhill. The last thing we need is for another issue to occur this summer and the fleet needs to be pulled once again. 

11 hours ago, happy283 said:

I personally wouldnt mind them getting rid of the R179s pernamently but it just isnt rational especially if the MTA wants full service on all lines to promote social distance.

Lol honestly thats a waste of money imo. Bombardier royally screwed up from the mechanical problems to brakes to doors now decoupling? What's next? I think MTA wouldve scrapped the R179s if the R211s were tested and ready to enter service but thats not gonna happen anytime soon. With phase 2 starting Monday, it'll be interesting to see if any new car assignments take place since essential service will be pretty much over.

5 hours ago, SevenEleven said:

The R179s are out of service indefinitely. Indefinitely meaning not having a defined time period. We use it in place of forever but that's not what it means.

The fleet has to be inspected, fixed and cleared for service. Those are the facts.

You saying that the fleet may or may not returned based on those two points is your opinion. TA is not going to junk an entire fleet.

An opinion is just how you feel about something. Your thoughts are yours but it cannot be passed off as a fact. I'm an admin, that's a fact. Am I a good admin? That's everyone's opinions.

Now everyone continue this discussion like grown adults and children because I will be handing out punishments like we're 2. Stop it.

I think you said it best here my guy. Whoever thought the Transit Authority is going go scrap a brand new fleet isn't all there 😂😂

My apologizes for not scrolling up and reading before lol. I just want the R179s to stay Oos so It can be all R160s on the  at least unitl July. Who knows when they'll return. Honestly, it feels right now as if the  is running at normal service because SubwayTime sometimes reports trains 2, 4 or 6 minutes apart even though its essential service. 

8 hours ago, happy283 said:

8658-8667, 8688-8692, 8708-8712, 8723-8727, 8878-8882, 8888-8897, 8938-8942, 8953-8957, 8978-8982, 8993-8997, 9003-9007, 9013-9022, 9113-9117, 9128-9132, 9163-9167, 9198-9202, 9223-9227, 9268-9272, 9293-9297, 9328-9337, 9363-9367, 9408-9412, 9423-9427, 9453-9457, 9503-9507, 9513-9517, 9533-9537, 9603-9607, 9628-9632, 9673-9677, 9688-9692, 9723-9732, 9738-9742, 9818-9822, 9843-9847, 9853-9857, 9873-9877, 9903-9907

Updated list of Pitkin R160s. Total cars 215.

Holy shit balls lmao so does the   even have enough R160s to run with a normal schedule? 

8 hours ago, SubBus said:

As of now, the is still not needed.  At least not uptown.....

Same with the  lol. People in Astoria are used to just the  and for local south of 57th the  is full time. Not sure why they restored these 2 lines as phase 2 isnt even open yet.... 

6 hours ago, happy283 said:

Promises? How long? I heard other information that says their restoration is near.

There is a lot of information everywhere but I'm guessing in the next two weeks. As DJ Hammers mentioned, this was likely a single car incident so hopefully the entire R179 fleet isn't corrupt.  

6 hours ago, happy283 said:

Thats what I am trying to figure out. If your in the subway it could be tested out. It only seems to be the  which according to trip planner resumes normal service tomorrow.

Yeah its a weekday schedule but reduced due to essential workers/service. 

3 hours ago, Calvin said:

9223-7:9293-7, 9272-9268/9333-9337, 9728-9732:9873-9877, 8688-8692:9113-7, 8723-8727:9453-9457, 9723-9727:9768-9772, 9198-9202:9363-7, 8708-8712:9328-9332, 9843-8947:9503-9507 : Jamaica 

8888-92:9018-22, 8993-7:9003-7, 8978-82:8938-8942 (C.I)

(12 10-car R160s for the so far)

Goddamn this feels like pre 2010 again lol. Imo R160s on the  are a much better fit compared to the R179s 

1 hour ago, trainfan22 said:

lol at "Mega exclusive".

 

 

Got to ride the Siemens 160  train today, I wasn't railfanning today, just using the subway to travel to the park to enjoy an nice day. The first  to show up just happened to be an Siemens 160, you can tell the T/O is not used to those cars, the T/O started slowing down long before the curve before West 4th, started slowing down for Nostrand Ave at Clifton - Washington.... usually they start slowing down for Nostrand around Franklin Ave. I am NOT criticizing the T/O, just an observation.

 

 

I guess the braking characteristics between the Siemens 160 and the R179 is drastically different...? I know it was said that Siemens 160 brakes tend to slide where's the Astom Onix ones do not, but that was said when the R160s were new. Since then the warranty ended, they went though SMS, etc, they could be drastically different now, IDK. But man those Siemens 160s are fast, that train was MOVING! All and all it was a fun ride.

Hmmm interesting. How did your T/O handle the huge curve after 125th? And timers near 86 st / 81 st? Is it also true that R179s accelerate faster than the R160s?

Siemens 9003-9007 running now 

19 hours ago, VIP said:

Ok it’s looking like the  will be getting R160’s from the  line. 9272-9268/9333-9337 deadheading to Pitkin as of 16:05

Have there been any Siemens sets transferred? 

Alright guys come on stop arguing. We all share a passion of transit and railfanning and everyone posts info here based on information that is available to the public or if they have family, friends that work for transit. As of now, I think its evident that R160s will likely run on the  next week since a few sets were transferred from CI to Rockaway Park. Since phase 1 beings Monday, subway service will return to full capacity but I don't think you will see 3  trains in a row bound for 179 st or 3  trains in a row bound for 207th, etc. Right now, trains run every 8 minutes so I'm guessing they may downgrade it to 6. Someone can correct me on the headways if I'm wrong. 

I'd assume the R179s would probably be out of service for at least two weeks. The last thing we need is for a train in service to detach at some point along its line. Literally these were one of my favorite cars because of the propulsion but after seeing all the incidents from 2017 to now, they're at the bottom of my list. The   I'm hoping would be a few R32s, R46s and R160s and the  would be R143/R160. With the  requiring all R160s for CBTC, it will be interesting to see what happens on the Jamaica line. 

23 hours ago, R32 3838 said:

 

Remember, It's hot out, Making the 100% R32's would be a very bad idea knowing the the HVAC issues of the past

 

For some reason I thought the R32 HVAC was better than the R46. 

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that R32s enter service on the  in the coming weeks hoping that the R179s stay Oos 

R160s in 207th would not fit in at all imo, since now all 13 R179  trains are in service and R46s will be running too

We know that the R32s were supposedly set to retire in spring 2020. However, many conductors and operators got infected at ENY Yard with the virus so therefore  and  service was dramatically reduced, thereby reducing the R32 runs. Its unlikely that the MTA will retire one of the best train cars during a pandemic with essential service in effect. 

Hope everyone's staying safe but an  train got taken out of service this morning due to door problems. Hope we aren't doing back to January again...... 

That Siemens and Alstom mix is dope but ir would be nice to see it on the  line