M5viaRiverside

Why don't the and trains announce the B15 JFK Bus transfer at Flushing Av?

Is this because the connects with the Jamaica AirTrain?

On 10/2/2023 at 9:40 AM, darkstar8983 said:

A reduced frequency of the  during this outage is pointless - at that point, they would have ran the  to 71 Av on a 12-15 minute headway, and had alternating  trains from Metropolitan Av terminate at 57 St. Then during middays and evenings, the  would only serve stations from Metropolitan Av to 47-50 Sts, then terminate at 57 St, every 10 minutes. This way, the rush hour frequency of the  between Manhattan and Brooklyn would have remained the same as it was before the closure.

For a six month closure, it's probably more trouble than its worth to bring the back, but it is an interesting case study. Especially for future outages...

Has alternate  trains to Forest Hills been seriously considerded at length? This seems like the no-brainer deal here.

The is prone to screw ups, especially when solo on QBL, as we all know...

On 10/2/2023 at 9:54 AM, Vulturious said:

And you would run them where exactly outside of heading into Queens? That's like having the  running along QBL with the  which isn't doing either lines along with the  any favors. 

If, and that's a big if, you were to do this, I would have it running into Brooklyn to Church Av normal service and Kings Highway for rush hour to help with the lack of  service that it's going to be dealing with. Even the, who knows how well that would've worked out because there's still the decrease in service overall across those lines.

If you bring back the , it'd be shortsighted NOT to run it to Brooklyn (Church/18th Av/Kings Hwy). If you scheduled the and properly, you could probably squeeze some more trains as well...

Why not bring back the ? I could see it being feasible provided you scale back the and (via 53rd St) to 5 minute frequencies each. You would have to take off some express trains to make room for the locals (the would have to run no more than every 9-10 minutes) but ultimately, this would be more of a redistribution of service than anything else.

Any thoughts?

On 9/29/2023 at 1:30 PM, MJHmarc said:

No service in queens, they are using 57th as a terminal but there’s only one track so the overflow is going to the Bronx. 

Were they using 96th/2nd at all to turn extra trains? I didn't see any rare reroutes over 2nd Avenue.

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Unauthorized person at Lex-53rd Street sent this train up Central Park West. C/R initially had the train signed up to 168th St, but switched the program to 145th St after a few stops. The announcements themselves were glitched, with the train announcing itself as "Manhattan bound" the entire time. Interesting catch.

How does Bus Time know how many passengers are on each bus? OMNY taps?

There was a northbound train reversing out of 72nd Street. I think both the northbound local and express switchers at 96th Street heading northbound are broken.

Do the and run directly underneath the   between Atlantic Avenue and Grand Army Plaza?

Are trains stopping at stations overnight? Not sure how it's exactly playing out when they system is "closed".

Why does the skip Cypress Hills? I know that ridership there is low, but the has to crawl through the station because of the timers on the S curve anyway. Why have passengers wait 8-10 minutes when the time saved by skipping the stop is negligible?

33 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

They don't want to use the switches at West 4th which I think is fair. Other GOs involving the on 8th Avenue also complicate things.

Right, the  would need to run on the express track if you had the and merging onto the 8th Avenue local track at West 4th Street. Spring Street would only be served by the if you kept the on the express track to avoid that merge. Their plan is starting to make a lot more sense with the Train G.O.

2 hours ago, Vulturious said:

It is so  trains can continue to run into Brooklyn, even though I feel it would be easier to just run the  into Brooklyn replacing the  so that the  still runs via 6th Av, but it's whatever.

So you would have the terminate at Delancey Street and have the run on the Line after West 4th Street? Seems like a scheduling hassle for crews by making the route miles longer.

During the Rutgers Tunnel Shutdown on the weekends, why are  and Trains swapping roles at Roosevelt Avenue instead of West 4th Street? Is it to offer train customers an easier transfer to the at 51st Street for LES service?

As seen with the Train shutdown, it seems that piecemeal fixes and half baked attempts at 'state of the art' projects is the most NYC can expect for in terms of transportation investment. All unilaterally decided by the governor, it seems as though he would rather choose the easier route and claim he got the project done rather than opt for one that would benefit more people in the long run but take longer to approve and build.

Wasn't the cut back to 86th Street back when they reconstructed Stillwell Av in the 2000's? Must be frustrating for recurring Sea Beach riders to have to deal with this again albeit for a different issue this time.

Hi, I'm new and I hope this is the right place for this.

I regularly use the CPW Local and was disappointed how the MTA handled delays in Train service. According to their website, Manhattan bound trains were held at Avenue M for a bit so clearly they were late once they reached Manhattan. The MTA had all uptown (B)'s run express around 3:30 amd this was quite frustrating to witness because that only left the on it's 9 minute interval.

This was very frustrating because I witnessed two trains, an and a pass me by at 72nd Street. I apologize for the rant but I just don't understand why the MTA couldn't send an or local as none of them were affected by the delay. This could be a different story on the weekend but this was at the start of rush hour.

Tl;dr: Trains were severely delayed in Brooklyn so they all went express on CPW leaving the by itself at the start of rush hour.