DEE123

Just now, Tdevon2923 said:

I didn’t see that in the paperwork out being disqualified if you had an accident. Plus if the accident isn’t on your driving abstract why put it on the application. 

Im already a B/O, it happened while on duty. 
on the NOE for 7604 it says any accidents may be a DQ also. 

My question is what type of accidents have candidates been DQ’d for?

I just applied to 4605, they state any accident is a disqualification. It’s a bummer because I had an accident where it’s not on my abstract and the damages were less than $1,000. I am gonna take my chances anyway but I’m sure they’re gonna tell me to get lost after taking the exam and going to 180 Livingston afterwards. 

On 7/10/2023 at 2:01 AM, parkavetunnel said:

I know the application period for this (allegedly OC) exam isn't for another 4 months. Just trying to get a gauge on the circumstances surrounding T/O hiring as of late. I know it's been roughly 6 years since the last exam (7604), and from what I can gather, the list is still effective. 

I currently work for a passenger railroad and am keen on heading below ground, so I figure I'll the test and see what happens. Anyone thoughts on whether this may in fact be a reality, or will they simply extend the list for 7604?

Thank you for the help.

If you already have experience, LIRR is open right now

On 11/28/2023 at 11:49 AM, Twin said:

I’m 3601 also but I’ve yet to receive a list number. 

The link to the list number is on top of the thread

14 hours ago, Frenchie said:

@DEE123 Also, if you google Nike ACG goadome boots. Do they accept these boots as well for training? That’s what I have.

Yeah that should be fine while you’re in Zerega and line training, but by graduation you should have a link from the union to get shoes. You will get 2 free pairs and Transit wants you to pick from the shoes they provide, if you wear the ACG’s while driving, you can get written up if you get a spotter on your bus. God forbid you get into an accident, the first thing they will do is look at your shoes even if the accident wasn’t your fault. 

2 hours ago, Frenchie said:

@DEE123 oh wow. Sorry for the late reply. I start this Sunday on Dec 3rd. I am definitely taking this all into consideration. Of course, assuming I make it through each stage in the process. Thank you a lot for taking the time out to share.
 

When it comes to having index cards or even the turn by turn instructions the depot provides. Are you allowed to reference this information while on duty on the route? (For ex. If you forget what you’re supposed to do ahead and you’re at a bus stop offloading and onboarding new passengers (of course, confirming beforehand each passenger is secured on the bus) … Can you look at the turn by turn instructions paper in those moments before pulling out the bus stop?)

 

 

And yeah, Queens has definitely always been confusing for sure. I’m hoping things have gotten easier since our last messaging. Also, were you able to pick out of Queens? Since I hear it’s pick season.

You have to be parked at a bus stop with your parking brake up and you cannot have papers lying around on your dashboard I know at my depot I can get written up for that. I keep my papers in my pocket and What I do is I remember 3 things at a time and imbed it into my head and then by the 3rd turn I go back and refer to my notes and embed the next 3 turns in my head. I’m telling you if you drive these routes in your personal car the day you find out what depot you’re going to you won’t have any issues.  

 

On 11/26/2023 at 10:51 PM, KDGallagher said:

You ride them and take notes on the turns. The route intructions are also available online https://myaccessns.nymta.info/ or you can just ask your union at the depot they'll usually have printouts of turn by turn instructions however it's recommended to ride the lines and see the turns in person. 

Operators who change depots during the general pick are responsible for learning the lines on their own, no line training once you're on the job 

Where exactly do I go online for the route instructions? I’m looking everywhere can’t find it

19 hours ago, lornaevo said:

You don’t learn the lines. You ride the lines to see any unusual turns and turn arounds. Then you use the turn by turn directions for a couple days on your own. 

Yeah that’s ridiculous. Was it hard for you?

47 minutes ago, lornaevo said:

You do get only 3 days to learn the lines, unless you go to Staten Island. You will be doing line training all over again. I believe 17 days with a mentor. 

How did you learn the routes in 2 days

On 11/25/2023 at 10:57 AM, jpsi94 said:

Wanted to give an update. I received my email to report to 180 Livingston on Dec 1st. I took exam #2614 and my list number was in the first 10. I also know someone else who received their date and they were in the 300s. Can anyone just me give me some insight on the process? I’m an OA trying to switch over to TA in order to go to Staten Island.

The same exact thing you did to get into mabstoa you have to do with TA, except there’s more paperwork that has to be filled out and you have to give them the 87 dollar money order again for the fingerprints.
On graduation day I asked a superintendent what happens when you cross over to TA she stated that After you clear medical, they will give you a start date to go to Zerega and you have to do orientation day over again, you’ll probably be in a classroom with brand new bus operators that have to do day 1-7. 

once you get assigned your depot, idk how they do it in Staten Island, but I have spoken to operators that crossed over from TA to bus Company, and others that transferred from another depot to my depot to be closer to home, all of them state that the depot gave them only 3 days to memorize the lines by riding the lines as a passenger, and then they went out on their own by the end of the week. I hope that doesn’t happen to me.

As for why they transferred from TA to bus company, they were laid off by TA and sent to my depot or it was back in the day, and they were on a TA list and Bus company called them provisionally, and then TA finally called them, they didn’t like the depot they were in and went back to bus company. 

17 hours ago, Trackguy718 said:

Good evening I’m curious if you have a suspension but it was cleared and show cleared on your driver abstract will it disqualify you from being a bus operator?

It depends on why it happened. Just don’t withhold information from them on your application when you submit it and you should be ok assuming it didn’t get suspended for something really bad. 
Read the instructions on the application very carefully. The only thing I know for sure you’ll get disqualified for is having way too many accidents or points. You would have to take another exam and come back when the time of your points and accident clears. I think like 3 years from the time the violation happened. 
You also cannot have any tickets or court cases pending. 

On 11/18/2023 at 10:35 PM, jpsi94 said:

Has anyone been called for #2614 I’m just getting impatient I’m trying to transfer over to Staten Island from Brooklyn. Currently an OA operator.

I’m 3601 list number 3x i haven’t received an email yet so you obviously haven’t been skipped yet, but please give me an update so I’m ready

On 11/18/2023 at 10:35 PM, jpsi94 said:

Has anyone been called for #2614 I’m just getting impatient I’m trying to transfer over to Staten Island from Brooklyn. Currently an OA operator.

TA hasn’t been hiring for these last two classes they’re trying to fill OA and Bus Company right now. However I would go to 180 Livingston on your RDO because If you go back on the thread, you will see people from 2612 get skipped and 2613’s got their medicals and stuff. 

On 9/19/2023 at 12:35 PM, Knighthawk said:

Got my exam score in the mail today for exam 2614 78% list number # 3** do you guys know when there going start getting to the list numbers 

How far are you in the process, any update?

On 10/29/2023 at 8:24 PM, Twin said:

Hello all!  New to the forum, any words on exam 3601? 

3601 just published. 

45 minutes ago, DEE123 said:Trust me you’re gonna make the wrong turns. It’s best you do it in your personal car than on the bus and trying to call comment and telling them you messed up. 
 

It’s best you make the wrong turns in your personal car than inside a bus because the second you realize you went off route you will need to stop and call the command center. The auto correct messed me up. 

2 hours ago, Basemac7 said:

Thanks. Already on it I filed for exam 4114

Best of luck. 

18 minutes ago, Frenchie said:

@DEE123 Sheeesh lol. That’s crazy. But I completely understand, they want no nonsense. When I went for my pre employment recently, it was a lot of people knowing darn well they were not prepared to be there that day. So I see why the MTA moves the way they move, unfortunately.

But as for you man, how’s the on the job life going?

Any pointers for learning and remembering the depot routes quickly?

I made a mistake when I wrote “you pick your depot in graduation.” You pick your depot and find out where you’re gonna wind up right after you qualify for the job. You will start line training after day you qualify.  After about 3 weeks of line training Is when you will graduate. 
my advice is the day you find out what depot you’re gonna be in, which is before you even get your license from eastchester, drive the lines in your personal car as many times as you can using the transit app or google maps. Write down simple index cards with the turn by turns. Take notes when your line trainers are dead heading back to the depot from the end of the route. Eventually you will get clues and realize where everything interlines and you wouldn’t get lost. Take your line training very serious. You’ll be ok if you do that. But your best bet is to drive all the lines with your personal car on your days off and write index cards each turn you’ll be making so when you are driving with your line trainer, you’ll be ahead of the game. 
your depot also gives official turn by turn instructions and dead heading instructions. On general information day you should have it ready. Make copies and do all the deadheads that way. Trust me you’re gonna make the wrong turns. It’s best you do it in your personal car than on the bus and trying to call comment and telling them you messed up. 
 

personally I’m not really liking the job. I’m in jfk it’s very rough because I have never been in that area in my life. I find south queens very confusing. I wish I took my line training more serious so don’t be like me. 

24 minutes ago, Frenchie said:

@DEE123 also! On the day of your medical and final processing (fingerprinting, etc).. do they tell you where you will go? Like what location you will report to for training? 
 

Or would that be on a separate day or from a email?

 

And how long should I expect to be there for the day? …… day 1 I was there like 10hrs for no reason lol.

I would like to add that if you do not come prepared and are missing a document or part of your uniform they will tell you to resign and go to 180 Livingston to try and be reinstated to the next class. 

8 minutes ago, Frenchie said:

Hey @DEE123 I had a quick question on this. I hope all is well with you brother. And appreciate all the info you’ve been sharing. So with you being able to transfer, right; does your seniority transfer with you? Or do you go back to the bottom?

2 minutes ago, Frenchie said:

@DEE123 also! On the day of your medical and final processing (fingerprinting, etc).. do they tell you where you will go? Like what location you will report to for training? 
 

Or would that be on a separate day or from a email?

 

And how long should I expect to be there for the day? …… day 1 I was there like 10hrs for no reason lol.

If you transfer, your seniority in the new depot starts at the bottom. At least that’s the way it is in MTA Bus company. 

On your medical date you will not know where you’re going unless you’re MTA bus because on the medical paperwork it will say either TWU 100 or ATU JFK on top of your name. The day of graduation from Zerega, they tell you what’s available and you get to pick only what is available at that time. You only get 3 choices. If they can’t accommodate the first choice then they will give you the 2nd or 3rd. 
 

You always report for training day 1 at Zerega. You will get paid for 8 hours, that will be your first day of appointment. You will be there for 8 hours filling out paperwork which will be in your permanent file forever. You must purchase and wear a powder blue shirt with a black clip on tie, or regular black tie. A navy blue or black work pants such as dickies or dockers, any pair of oil and slip resistant shoes, (I got a basic pair from the sketchers outlet store for $65.00) just make sure they are slip AND oil resistant. Also a watch. Very important because they will check. I bought a 12 dollar Casio watch from Amazon. 
make sure you bring every single document with you. If you have a permit bring your permit AND your Class D license. If you’re from out of state I think you need to buy a driver’s abstract and bring that with you also. 

On 11/12/2023 at 8:15 PM, Basemac7 said:

Usually through email. I went to 180 Livingston a few days ago only to be told they're not hiring for TA. Also I have to restore my name to the list and when called start the whole process over. I'm disappointed and frustrated.

Ok yeah thanks. Take the bus company and MABSTOA exam while you wait for TA just in case because I have a feeling when TA finally does call us, they’re gonna try to stuff us in Staten Island or a depot they can’t use MABSTOA operators. 

On 11/3/2023 at 1:47 PM, Frenchie said:

What is that number or info you don’t share because it’s personal to you?

If you share your list number, people can find out who you are. 

On 11/7/2023 at 2:03 PM, Basemac7 said:

Hey guys,  does anyone know if they stopped hiring at the moment? I've been waiting since my 3rd drug test and nothing yet.

I have seen training buses with new students in the road last week, so they haven’t stopped hiring yet. 
I’m very curious, how do they contact you to do another drug test? Do they automatically send you an email every month? I have submitted a drug test for MABSTOA 3 months ago and they never contacted me to do a 2nd drug test. I emailed them twice addressing my concern, and trying to get another drug test date, but I was ignored. I think they just don’t want to hire me because I was called for MTA bus company already. 

17 hours ago, Harlem said:

Did you switch over DEE? We still haven't got our results yet. Any word?

I submitted paperwork and did drug tests for two exams, Nothing heard back. I even emailed the employment center a week ago and no response.