LTA1992

4 hours ago, CenSin said:

Missing the ferry is a binary thing… you missed it or you didn’t.

The original IRT was built in like 7 years??

The original subway consists of Contracts One and Two. The October 27th, 1904 opening was just of contract One.

27 minutes ago, Eric B said:

R44 and 46 in the early 80's were pre-GOH and still had their P-Wire, which was basically the "NTT" of its day.

After GOH, it was said they were made to be "LIKE" SMEE, but were still different; especially the 44.

You got to it before I did.

On 2/17/2018 at 8:35 AM, LTA1992 said:

So I've been mulling on what project I should do next since I haven't created anything since I went to Paris back in 2015. So I've finally decided to begin pre-production on a documentary series on the subway. I decided on the number six a long, LONG time ago as the episode count for the first series. 

What I need from you guys, and maybe from your friends as well, is six topics you think should be talked about. The top six topics will become the six episodes. 

In no specific order, I was thinking:

Operations, Fares, Emergencies, Crime, Maintenance, and Future Developments. 

PM me if you have ideas. My goal is nothing more than to get information to the public. Which will be an easy task considering my connections. People are more receptive to information when it comes from visual media. And I think this is a good way for people to start getting answers.

 

Independent of an obviously biased MTA. Not only is it a chance for other, unwashed, individuals to learn, but for me as well. It's time I've put everything I've learned film related to maximum use. However, if I get no input, those I've listed will be the topics. 

So I've decided that the series will revolve around questions. Each episode being about 5-7 minutes long (topic/content/time willing lol). Each addressing a specific question, each question belonging to a category. The former episode topics listed in the quote are some of the topics. Obviously, there are more.

So, aside from an introductory video explaining my intentions for this series, I've decided that the first episode should revolve around a question I'm not sure many regular folk get.

Simply put: What is the MTA?

That is where I'll begin. Funnily enough, while putting this all down on paper, I've come to realize that there are things I need to brush up on. People, politics, and the like. Yay! Learning for all and that is how it should be. I'm not shooting a thing until Spring hits though. No smart person shoots in the cold, trust me.

The fire of inspiration is lit. Also, because I have no shame, I made a small doc via a non-profit in Brooklyn called Reel Works that talked about my interest in subways as well as my time in foster care. It's 8 minutes long and called "This Is: Connections". It can be found on reelworks.org. That was for those who've been wondering who I am or those I've met who may just want to learn a little more about me.

Looking forward to the results of this project.

Seems they are testing the new Kawasaki trucks on an R160. Can't see the number as the photo focuses on the trucks.

Hope they work well and pass their tests. But I'm not in doubt that they will. 

So I've been mulling on what project I should do next since I haven't created anything since I went to Paris back in 2015. So I've finally decided to begin pre-production on a documentary series on the subway. I decided on the number six a long, LONG time ago as the episode count for the first series. 

What I need from you guys, and maybe from your friends as well, is six topics you think should be talked about. The top six topics will become the six episodes. 

In no specific order, I was thinking:

Operations, Fares, Emergencies, Crime, Maintenance, and Future Developments. 

PM me if you have ideas. My goal is nothing more than to get information to the public. Which will be an easy task considering my connections. People are more receptive to information when it comes from visual media. And I think this is a good way for people to start getting answers.

Independent of an obviously biased MTA. Not only is it a chance for other, unwashed, individuals to learn, but for me as well. It's time I've put everything I've learned film related to maximum use. However, if I get no input, those I've listed will be the topics. 

28 minutes ago, Bosco said:

For anyone who is interested in reading about the efWING:

http://kawasakirailcar.com/EFWING

Subarashii. Beautiful design that I hope to see on the R211.

I can't get behind that. First of all, last I checked, this is a discussion forum. 

Second, fleet assignments caused by this order are quite relevant. Third, there's been no news aside from whatever is related to last weeks board meeting. 

As someone stated before, speculation isn't abnormal anywhere. If you don't want to see it, why not just skip it? Until ENY or someone spills la habichuelas, all we can do is speculate. Why should people be forced to not discuss just because some are tired of seeing it?

That's quite anti-discussion if you ask me. Many of these members are new. You're are likely to push them away with what I've observed within these forums the last couple weeks.

20 hours ago, Art Vandelay said:

The wayside system has not been removed from the Flushing line... Yet. While enough signals will remain to allow off hour equipment deadheads and work trains, they will not be capable of full rush hour service. 

That's what he said. It's there as a fail-safe. Compared to Canarsie.

2 hours ago, LGA Link N train said:

Well. If the terminal for the Second Avenue subway was 3 Avenue-149 Street, then you have access to the and , but that's not the point. What the case here would be is that if the decided to do this, then we'd be a step close to bringing back subway service to 3 Avenue, as opposed to 125 Street which I don't advocate for, despite seeing it's importance for a possible extension.

And you would be able to give The Bronx two lines instead of one. I don't feel like reiterating 10-walls worth if text on why that's a better terminal than 125th and Lex today. 

People may say that the river tube will drive up costs, but compared to spending around 3 Billion on a single terminal, it's worth it. Plus, the Harlem River isn't that long nor that deep. With the Immersed Tunnel method, that thing should t even cross the 1 billion mark in price. 

2 minutes ago, Jemorie said:

Oh, and why not? Because the has always been stuck with the oldest cars so therefore it should be given first priority? Sorry, you and I know damn well that the ain't a full-time here, bud. It is just a secondary supplemental local counterpart to the .

"Things always change"

You just contradicted yourself. Therefore, I can equally say that putting new cars on either line isn't truly decided either.

The time of day the service runs does not dictate whether or not a service gets new cars. Because the Eastern Division is another area that generally always got older cars. Until the millennium generation arrived. That was a change of practice.

If the  primarily gets these cars, which it has been slated to for years, it too would be a change in practice. Besides, I can't see the  seeing these too much. It's a showcase service. 

The R211 is where it will shine.

4 minutes ago, U-BahnNYC said:

The will be full-length, all the way. That's been decided.

Also, I can't see the getting all the R179 5-car sets before the because the is waaay more crowded than the . People flock to the express because, psychologically, they think it will be faster (that's why the express, not the , was routed via 63rd street back in 2001 btw). That's just my logical take on it, but I'm open to constructive argument.

Things always change. This IS the MTA. Nothing is ever truly decided.

Until we hear word from those who matter, none of this means a thing to me.

4 minutes ago, Jemorie said:

Coney Island Av, I never once stated that the R179s cannot go on the and lines. I said only the five-car sets can, but having the vast majority of trains as 480 feet long units is all honestly...I don't know...but this 2018 now, not 2008. We need full-length trains on the line and while the R46s and R32s are the oldest cars in the system that need replacing no matter what, the entire subway system's ridership will continue to grow for like what? The rest of our lives. Maybe a few full-length trains is a start, but just because the "promised" to have new cars on those two lines to displace the R32s doesn't necessarily mean it will happen. Far we know, they could just take most of Jamaica's R46s and put them on the or or use the Coney Island R160s instead. Who knows.

Problem you continue to forget. The MTA got 16 free cars from Bomb. These are going to expand the amount of 10-car trains from 4 to 12. 

 service generally runs 6-tph. That's a train every 10-minutes. 12 trains is just enough for the service. I'm likely wrong on that figure, but a few (3 or 4) 8-car trains can be sprinkled in if need be.

At this point, the  doesn't really need to share. Besides. Its fleet is a few years away.

Just now, Jemorie said:

How am I increasing my post counter? I post what's on my mind. Lately, all these threads have consisted of nothing but whiny complaints about where the R179s should go and you're not a moderator btw lol. Have a seat.

These aren't complaints. Speculation, yes. But not complaints. Frankly, it's all we can do until the summer where I expect some news to drop.

5 minutes ago, Jemorie said:

Lol you blowing a fit I see. The now wants the to be full-length now. Subway ridership grows yearly and there's no reason why most of the R179s should be on the (C). The five-car sets? Sure, but not the four-car sets. And the rest of the fleet can be R46s or full 600 feet R32s lol.

A fit? Anyone who knows me knows that I don't blow fits. I prefer the cool, straight-laced method of destruction.

The amendment of the order to include those 16 new B-cars means that instead of 4 trains of 10-cars, we now have 12. Which is just enough to cover  with a few 8-car trains filling the balance. I see the R32s moving off 8th Avenue for the shutdown to supplement the services that need to accommodate the extra riders..

But at the risk of digging up old, worn out topics, I'll end that there.

4 minutes ago, Jemorie said:

So? Big deal lol.

The deal is that almost since Day 1, way back in 2010, these cars were going to go to 8th Avenue. Because their original intent was to replace the R44.

With the life extension of the R32, and transfers of R46 to the  due to R160s going to Jamaica and premature retirement of said R44s, the order was modified for the  and  .

Again, where else can they go? Instead of being a smartass, you can provide a thought. Whether or not you be eviscerated is TBD.

1 hour ago, Bill from Maspeth said:

Everyone who works in MTA is NOT part of the final decision.  That is a ridiculous statement you made.  That means your telling me that the Dept. of Buses , Dept. of Security, Maintenance of Way and others have a hand in this? No hourly employee is involved in the decision making process either, and that's from every department! That's what you said!

Finally the TA president and the MTA President have nothing to do with car assignments either!  They just want full scheduled service!

Not to mention, DJ Hammers, who I know of personally, is a recent addition compared to posters who have been on the money for years now.

Until they make their announcements, I'll take things with three grains of salt.

6 minutes ago, Jemorie said:

Because certain railfans on here wanna catch their titties in a knot whenever the and continue to be stuck with the oldest cars in the system lol. Even DJ Hammers has stated that subway car breakdowns are the least of the 's problems. It's the aging of the tracks and signals themselves that plague the subway continuously due to their age, not car fleets. I personally couldn't give two cents as like we still have trains making service and nothing more. These railfans act like the subway is a limbo or something lol. By the time all SMEEs retire for good, the and will then get tech trains anyway lol.

You DO know that, historically, the has never, ever, gotten its own fleet of brand new cars right? This fleet was always intended to be mostly for the .

We can care less about opinions. Facts are Facts. And the facts are that the  needs new trains. And there's really nowhere else for the R179 to go. So I'll wait for someone like East New York or TheReal to break the news. 

They are some of the most reliable people on here, after all.

Question. So I'm clear as I haven't been as active lately. What is the plan for the R32? How many are to be retired when the R179s come in? How many are to remain? 

Last I heard was about half. Has that changed? I can care less about assignments.

25 minutes ago, quadcorder said:

The decrease in merging on the Broadway Line would allow for increased service is the idea. This was discussed at one point in the 2 Av thread. However it would be moot once the comes online since then increased would not be necessary anymore. Sorry for off-topic.

Re: R211, can someone confirm that the idea is that the subsequent orders can be the open-gangway model if it is determined to be a success, and that is why the order is broken up into several contracts the way it is?

Yes. If the test trains pass (which I have zero doubt on), all options will be R211Ts. If not, which I doubt, they will be all R211As.

16 minutes ago, quadcorder said:

Would it be possible for this yard to allow the N and R to switch northern terminals?

Why? The whole reason they switched in the first place was to give the  direct access to a yard. The  had access to Jamaica as well as CIY. No sense in switching it again.

And even before that, taking Broadway Express service from Astoria? lol

1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said:

36-38 Streets yard is designed specifically for work trains

Though if you were to talk about moving the to a new yard then I'd suggest build a new one at Astoria 

It was originally a yard for rapid transit cars on the BMT system. It can be changed back.

1 hour ago, VIP said:

The windows ARE longer. The stand poles are also distinctive and give the cars an identity. Hopefully their interior specs are not inconsistent like the R160’s

Well remember, the R160 is just the next member of a generation begun by the R143. They probably thought about adding the steel inside to prevent scratchiti(?) after the first cars were constructed. 

10 hours ago, rbrome said:

I finally took time to ride one today. A few things struck me:

The LCD screen next to the FIND display is GARBAGE. It's dim and has horrible viewing angles. It's so hard to see it's almost useless. Who picked that component and why did the MTA accept it?

I didn't realize that the fiberglass around the windows is baby blue. It's not as obvious in photos, I guess. It looks so weird and out of place, since nothing else is that color. Why on earth did they do that? It looks cheap. Does no one have any design sense at Bombardier and/or the MTA?

The motor sound is very distinctive. That's another thing that's much more obvious in person than anything I've seen online. 

Are the windows slightly larger? The setback around the window seems less angled, and the frame itself seems thinner. Larger windows (even by a little bit) would be a welcome change. 

Otherwise it seems nice... not really that different from current cars. I'm sure most riders will have no idea. 

Oh no, the riders definitely have noticed. Down to the children. And they seem to be well received.

While the FINDs themselves are much brighter than the R160s (to the point where I'd almost think I didn't need new glasses lol) the monitor isn't really dim. The brightness of the station stops and transfers makes it seem so. My issue is that they just imported the 160 programs without taking the larger screens into account. So many things look stretched.

The PA system is way crisper than when the 160s were new. I have noticed that the pilot cars are louder on that front than the production cars. Which is my next issue. I like hearing what is being said. And the Eastern Division announcements have always been quite low. 

And yes, I too think the windows are larger for the same reasons you do. And I love it. I would love large windows to make a return. 

I LOVE the MITRAC. Best thing about those cars imo.

I actually prefer the R179 to the 160 despite their issues. To the point where it's starting to feel like a downgrade. And yes, I rode the 160s when they were new too. I mean, I had to skip school to do so. But I could afford the days.

Remember kids, learn the formula of how to pass and you can get away with a lot lol. 

36 minutes ago, bobtehpanda said:

could go from 19-26TPH with an upgraded power supply, probably all the way to the theoretical maximum of 40TPH with appropriate terminals. 90s headways are the norm in most places with CBTC.

Isolated services like the are an exception. On most lines, services would need to share that new space with 2 to 3 others. So in reality, what LGA said isn't wrong. And even so, we're not going to start seeing the true benefits until the Manhattan trunk lines start getting upgraded. And in the case of the QBL, both 6th Avenue and 8th Avenue (which we know is next), would need to be equipped before the true benefits can be seen. 

Oh my GoD, one piece.  Ooooooohhhhh