TheHat

On 7/15/2021 at 7:22 AM, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

I don't know how true it is, but it seems to be that the more seniority, perhaps the harder it is for them to be canned. Something else to consider. Sometimes the dispatchers or supervisors are friends with the drivers. It can work both ways.... If the dispatcher or supervisor doesn't like them, then it can go the other way too. There is that guy named "The Hat". He seems to be well known on the BxM4 and he goes out of his way to make their commutes a living hell. I don't know what the story is, but I believe something happened. I got him once years ago when I needed to be in Westchester. He drove so slow, stopped at green lights, etc. I got up to 242nd and Katonah shortly before the next scheduled bus, which was supposed to be 30 minutes away. Person was waiting to pick me up like 45 minutes after I should've been there to head up to Westchester. Once I saw that, I said forget this. Switched over to Metro-North.

Hey, that wasn't me. I used do the super express over 10 years ago & I made the trip from end to end in 39 minutes. You are talking about "Tank", You need to be better at claiming what people do, especially when anyone can tell you, I've never done anything like that my entire career. You see you've gone out of your way to avoid me, even though I wanted to HELP fix or at least obstruct what the MTA was doing to the former LLE routes & service. I now (I'm retired) can say, I offered you internal documents & to meet you with them as far back as 2008. I don't know where you get the impression that I was that B/O, when I know who & what you look like, but apparently don't know me even after I gave you a very CLEAR description & my paddle. Thanks for slandering me...

On 10/13/2017 at 2:25 PM, TheHat said:

Prove to me it's scrapped, I have irrefutable proof it is certainly not. Remember I'm The Hat, Roster or not it is NOT scrapped, it furthest from a scrap yard that it ever will be...

https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/N2neqkefVrlaH3pDyiz5shabdVy08bCWF5xlLZMu6T3  Just leaving this here, oh & this. https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/ixaNClPJpxH6ZmDT4KXCNFqs7NcIGtoAh07nw1vpPtv

 

2 hours ago, MHV9218 said:

Am I missing something about 9207? It was just posted. Here's that link again: https://www.propertyroom.com/l/1996-nova-rts-brooklyn-ny-11214/11926092#. Retired from MTA to NYPD use, NYPD use to police auction. Only 200k miles!

281,114 to be exact & I can confirm without a shadow of a doubt, the auction ended. Propertyroom.com can't relist something they no longer have...

Just now, MHV9218 said:

9207 is up for sale on a police auction site right now. 

https://www.propertyroom.com/l/1996-nova-rts-brooklyn-ny-11214/11926092#

That auction ended. Was 9207 assigned to 126th street for its 1st depot?

2 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

9207 is retired from service. It may not be scrap, but it is no longer in service with the MTA.

That makes more sense, it was sold off the roster & not for scrap. Now what is its current disposition, that is the question?

12 hours ago, T J Trainman said:

So, let me get this straight, you guys are insisting that 9207 was scrapped yes? Interesting. 

I know, it never was on any scrap list MTA or otherwise, but we know the truth,Trainman!

16 hours ago, Novabus 5000 said:

While the bus is in the scrap yard, it may not be scrap. System roster does not have it on the scrap list, so it should not be deemed as such. 

There is a good chance they will repair 8126. 1258 had similar damage and it got rebuilt. Lets not rush to judge it so quickly. 

 

From the MTA list you can deem it scrapped. 

 

8831 to scrap. 5035 to storage. 

Prove to me it's scrapped, I have irrefutable proof it is certainly not. Remember I'm The Hat, Roster or not it is NOT scrapped, it furthest from a scrap yard that it ever will be...

On 10/5/2017 at 8:21 AM, MCI D4000 81994 said:

MTA NovaBus RTS 9207 for sale on PropertyRoom

<a href="https://www.propertyroom.com/l/1996-nova-rts-brooklyn-ny-11214/11926092#"> NovaBus 9207</a>

 

You can now officially take 9207 off the scrapped list.

On 6/18/2015 at 12:46 AM, The TransitMan said:

As of August 29th, 2017

 

 

 

1994 NovaBus RTS-06: 8750

 

1995 NovaBus RTS-06: 8751-8752

 

1995 Orion 05.501 (Ex-BeeLine): 101-103, 105-106, 108-142, 144-150

 

1996 NovaBus RTS-06: 8753-8796, 8798-8830, 8832-8912, 8914-8932, 8934-8968, 8970, 8973-8993, 8995-9001, 9004-9005, 9007-9026, 9028-9070, 9072-9084, 9086-9093, 9095-9113, 9115-9131, 9133-9214, 9216-9301, 9303-9306, 9308-9347, 9349

 

1996 Orion 05.501 (Ex-BeeLine): 151-173, 175-176, 178-179, 181-184

 

1997 NovaBus RTS-06: 9350-9456, 9458-9502, 9504-9510, 9512-9524

 

1998 NovaBus RTS-06: 4905, 4920, 4941, 4975, 4984, 4998, 5003, 5026, 5060, 9525-9538, 9540-9545, 9547-9579, 9581-9589, 9591-9666, 9668-9673, 9675-9689, 9691-9698

 

1998 Orion 05.501: 6001-6003

 

1999 MCI 102-DLW3SS Commuter Coach: 2040-2041, 2043-2047, 2049-2052, 2054-2069, 2071-2106, 2108-2139

 

1999 NovaBus RTS-06: 5121, 9656

 

1999 Orion 05.501: 6004-6325, 6327-6349

 

2001 MCI D4500 Commuter Coach: 2140-2184, 2186-2203, 2205-2208, 2705-2804

 

2002 MCI D4500 Commuter Coach: 2805-2808, 2810-2813, 2816, 2818-2822, 2825, 2827-2835, 2837-2842, 2844-2847, 2849, 2851, 2853-2855, 2857, 2860, 2863-2865, 2867, 2869-2870, 2872-2877, 2879-2881, 2884, 2886, 2888-2894, 2896, 2899-2901, 2903-2904, 2908-2909, 2911-2925, 2927-2930

 

2002 New Flyer D60HF: 5515, 5521, 5524, 5526-5527, 5537, 5544, 5550, 5553

 

2002 Orion 07.501 "First Generation" Low Floor CNG: 7561, 7563-7566, 7568-7570, 7573, 7574, 7577-7580, 7585-7586

 

2003 New Flyer D60HF: 5584, 5589, 5596, 5611-5612, 5615, 5622, 5630, 5638-5639, 5645, 5650, 5657-5658, 5663, 5669, 5671, 5699, 5708, 5719, 5728, 5730, 5737, 5761

 

2003 Orion 07.501 "Second Generation" Low Floor CNG: 7588, 7591-7599, 7602-7607, 7610-7617, 7621, 7625-7626, 7629-7630, 7632-7641, 7643-7645, 7649-7652, 7655, 7660, 7663, 7666-7667, 7671-7673, 7677-7678, 7680, 7684, 7691, 7746

 

2005 MCI D4500CL Commuter Coach: 3158

 

2006 Orion 07.501 "Second Generation+" Low Floor Hybrid: 3548

 

2007 Orion 07.501 "Second Generation+" Low Floor Hybrid: 3741, 6853

 

2009 Orion 07.501 "Next Generation" Low Floor Hybrid: 4619

 

2010 NovaBus TL-62102A Low Floor Articulated: 1205

 

2012 NovaBus TL-62102A Low Floor Articulated: 5299

9207 is not scrapped or even heading there at all.

 

 

 

Special thanks to "FLX9304" for his input.

 

So forgive my ignorance here, but these buses come out of the program with any mechanical faults fixed, a new engine if necessary, and then the Grand Avenue buses get a new coat of paint as well?

 

There are 81 items in the scope of the program, if the bus is a program bus it will get a replacemnet powertrain if needed and if has a bad trans. they will replace the trans. Some mech. issues are in the scope, some aren't e.g. a/c is not in the scope, but 9010 is having it's condensor coil replaced @ Grand.

Anything else in the over haul program?

 

Currently @Zerega 8809,8881,8907,8933,9002,9073,9114,9163,9188,9200,9240,9259,9310 @Grand 8838,9010. @ENY for engine swap 8873. They are adding bus to the program on a one-by-one basis as needed in addition to the first 160, 30 were added for a total of 190 and now added as needed.

I thought it was there a long time ago.

 

Negative, 8991 went from ECH straight to Zerega for the "program" on or about 7/31. I picked it up Wednesday @ 1539hrs. and arrived at LGA @ 1601hrs. It was reassigned to LGA while it was being worked @ Zerega, but it didn't arrive until I picked it up on wenesday.

5977 at Zerega, 2251 At Cummins on Zerega Ave.

 

 

A picture would go great with all of this

 

Yes it would, but I was working, so I don't have time to "Wait director, I need a shot of this". Sorry maybe on an visit to Zerega where I am not constrained by time and need of equiptment.

 

 

The bus (2251) is labeled for NYC Bus, supposedly MTA Bus will see some off this order as well. But we'll see, the MTA changes its mind hourly!

 

The bus for the most part is a carbon of 2210-2250, but there is some changes in the operators compartment also the outside rear panel has some extra louvers towards the top which matches the latest rear ends of the D4505 coachess coming out of MCI. These also sport a different powertrain than the 2210-2250 batch.

 

-This bus has orange Horison gen IV signs, the side sign is just like the C40LF.

-This bus has the 380hp ISL to an Alison B500R w/ progressive shift.

-This bus has an improved exhaust defuser.

-This bus has the new drivers dash set up for the commuter criuser & the new MCI steering wheel.

-This bus has the new DPF seperate fuel tank.

-This bus has the bus time & Clever IVR & these devices take up the First 2 Street side parcel racks along with the radio.

-This bus has disc brakes.

-This bus has all led lighting, including the reverse and dash lights.

-This bus has outlets for passenger at 6 locations throuout the bus.

-This bus has American seating, but the upholsery is in a similar color and pattern of the Prevost.

-This bus DOES NOT have an ultra capacitor.

-This initial bus order is NOT going to MTA Bus.

-The option order MAY have some go to MTA Bus if part of the order is FTA funded.

-This order is NOT replacing the 7400's, the 7400's just had seat replacement and upgrade completed.

-This destination of this order has NOT been determined, but are replacing 1999 & 2000 model DL3's, the fait of the reserve fleet of MCI's in ECH is still to be determined.

-This informations' source, is the dpartment that ordered the bus.

-I was present and the first part of the initial acceptance proceedure at Zerega.

-This information is NOT up for interpretation.

 

4710 back @ Zerega, 2251 has it's numbers and was test driving today I saw a couple of times between 1255 & 1447hrs and as of 1752hrs is not back @ Zerega.

Update 4812 and 4899, as of 6pm today (seen with my own two), BOTH buses are sitting at Zerega, confirmed. 4812 is standard spec, 4899 is sporting some sort of a silver engine (report was it is a Detroit DD11...Need confirm on that).

 

What else did you see @ Zerega? I know what I saw Friday evening. You want the exclusive or should there be another TheHat exclusive?

 

 

Good for you that you can handle the work but it's pretty surprising the MTA doesn't have more shifters to avoid that kind of 15, 16 hour day. I guess the story is that ECH RTSes head to LGA, LGA's oldest get rehabbed and go to QV, and the BLs get replaced by ex-NYCT RTSes from around the system?

 

So much for light duty, huh. One man unit on a two man post. Well I did have the help of 4 other BO's, on the ENY & BP moves, it's just the coordination of the moves rely on FB & radio removal after the buses are used to make the PM peak. I have done one-by-one moves of as many buses before. LGA's oldest are not of issue. The ones for QV are buses that have been in & completed the "program". ECH RTS come to LGA, but as of late the BL's have no replacements in the deployment. Perhaps we may get other Nova RTS from depots. Or we may get some out of ECH storage/scrap, god help LGA if we do. I have a feeling that the rest of the buses we received from QV via Zerega "program" will leave also.

Wait 8756 is staying or just a 'layover'? Would be nice to see that bus again in Brooklyn, FB kept it in good shape when it was last here.

 

The aforementioned buses at ENY CMF(Central Maint. Facility) are going to QV after being worked at the CMF.

Ok confirmed 138 is now at the BP depot.

 

8756,64,98,8806&10 At ENY CMF for prep to go to QV 8803 upon completion of program. All moved as a task force bus move last night. 3279,80,81 to LGA for fall pick deployment. More RTS moves to come from ECH as part of this deployment. Hold on to yor Hats! Get it Thehat, hats! I know pretty lame, but I did a 15-hour shift on these 138,8756,64,98,8806&10 along with other vendor moves and very, very beat. I also have the final fall 2012 deployment and my work is cut out for me.

 

 

the Orion Vs 6000-6300 those 1999 ones will be replaced with the winner of the BTE program which looks like more XD40LFs

 

2 XD40's were not accepted and are still being "treated" at NEBus to be accepted. On another note an 40ft. Nova LFS hybrid is at Zerega, I saw it in person. No details as yet, but it is there.

Have you been on those D60s? They were heavily used in the Bronx and Manhattan. It's just like the ex-Bees at LGA, the buses are shot and need to go. Plus RTSs are very well built and better handle punishment and it's a 40' replacing a 40' bus.

 

The RTS is a bulletproof bus for our day and age. Just as the fishbowl before it, the RTS was improved over & over with each model. If buses of today were built to the same standard instead of the throw away crap like the O7, there would be no need for the BT&E program of the MTA. The BT&E shows that most buses on the market today are not able to survive the streets of New York. The fishbowls were also bulletproof and like the RTS, just care for the bulkheads, powertrain and seal the body properly to keep the harness dry and free of corosion. Those old workhorses, um I mean warhorses can last forever. That's IMHO, I could be wrong, but ask this. Why do the O7's need a midlife rehab at 4yrs. instead of 6yrs. and still SHYT PCS, traction motors & severe frame cracks that Orion needs to fix weekly at Oriskany on the NG which was an improvement over the OG?

Since 15:23 today for 8991...and DB still showing 9126 as a EC bus, until it's patched up and photographed on a LG route OR shows up in the DB as a LG bus, I'm leaving it at EC...All too often a bus shows up at a place but then in a day or two shows right back up at another location.

 

Leave it all you like, I delivered 9126 to LGA at 1537hrs. the DB you use is NOT the actual definitive location of equipt., Spear is. The DB you use is a compliation of UTS Spear and if the bus has GPS. If it does not have GPS like 9126 the DB will NOT give the assignment of the bus. 9126 is in FACT a not LGA and I drove it there, that's my job, that I am licensed & paid for. It has a pre-service inspection work order at LGA. TTMG can leave it in Eastchester, but TTMG is NOT the MTA and not the operator moving the bus and I AM PUTTING IT AT LGA. The depot control log in spear is the FACT of a buses location in the system. Decals are just that decals. 8933 has no home in the DB you use, but is in fact in Zerega, but assigned to LGA, so why doesn't it have a home in the DB? I know why, do you or your DB?

8966 is pending scrap, horizontal & vertical level 3 bulkhead cracks. Also the box/frame beam is cracked. Stick a fork in it, she's done!

 

As of 1500hrs 8966 is scrap, I brought it to ECH myself.

8966 is pending scrap, horizontal & vertical level 3 bulkhead cracks. Also the box/frame beam is cracked. Stick a fork in it, she's done!