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113 & 8768 are scrap at ECH as of 1202hrs Friday. I delivered then both there personally. I think the roster needs to be updated again, it is upto date in spear.

So the BLs are finally hitting the scrapyard, I get the impression the gap is gonna be filled by the RTSes that come out of the program at Zerega? LGA is gonna be one RTS-heavy depot.

 

Im not really sure. I think the plan is to retire the LGA Bees......

 

Yep, RTS heavy and as the bee's have major issues they'll get knocked down. I remember driving them at Liberty and never thought in my life, I would be the one bringing them to scrap, let alone scrapping them from the MTA. To me, at least it is kinda sad, but they are so beat. It's like pulling the plug out of mercy. However sad, I can try to give them a good send them off with a Liberty driver that drove them at their best and with some dignity.

103 and 126 are now at ECH scrap.

 

106 also, 113 tomorrow

4947 & 65 @ ulmer park , could be there for work but they have no depot stickers & they came in with them , 441 & 42 @ gleason saw them both on the 8 .

 

I never said that , all i said is what i saw/heard but alright ...

 

Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see at the MTA & you did answer the questions as if you KNOW better than I, to questions that I actually do on a daily basis for a living. Just like, that BO's don't know what they're talking about unless they're in the hobby (XD60), as if you are the authority on all things MTA. Fact and speculation are two different things, knowing the difference is important. Telling someone something as fact when they live the fact is not only arrogant, but very annoying.

 

 

You've gotta be kidding me. Now it's at JA? I don't know man I'm not gonna be at QV untill October. So I guess those files that I had put together have to be sent out again.

 

They'll send the files when they sent them. The files LGA did receive were the fuel, oil & coolant analysis.

 

I looked up some more numbers to approve, or were requested,

 

Along With 8901-2, 8955 & 9079,

 

8810, 8860, 8862, 8864 & 9132 are at LGA.

 

8865 to JAM

 

 

So how about that 9079 again. The 9079 which is currently assigned to JA.

You take a bus back in revenue service , don't know which one but you can take a bus back or a company car will go. But I saw a move to east Chester before & it was one person who took the bus there and nobody followed him so he had to take the bus back in revenue service .

 

ABSOFUCINGLUTLEY NOT! I have a car assigned to my post & they will assign upto and including even if it is overtime a BO, Maintainer,helper,line supervisior or a dispatcher bring you back safely and in a timley fashion. THE MTA WILL NOT ALLOW A OPERATOR ON DUTY IN A PLANNED BUS MOVE TO LOOSE HOURS ON END IN PUBLIC TRANSIT & LIABILTY FOR INJURY ON DUTY OR BE A CRIME VICTIM THAT MTA WILL BE LIABLE FOR. IT IS AN IN EFFECT POLICY! They will have a parts truck bring you back even if it is out of their way. They will have road control Or even a service truck bring you back. Further more YOU DIDN'T see a move to ECH and the BO had to take a bus back, how do I know, because you did'nt see the begining of the move, the BO was dropped off at the depot where the bus was at and came to ECH. Also the BO has an option to clear from the depot where the move ends if it is the end of your trick. I DO THESE MOVES FOR A LIVING I AM A DIVISION SHIFTER, most moves are arranged in 3, 4 or even 5 way moves involving buses and non-revenue vehicles. I have been transported by vendor vehicles to destinations for moves. NOT ALL MTA vehicles are marked. My unit is assigned a black impala ex-MTA police car. You may speculate as much as you want, but you do NOT do this job! I DO! So do NOT speak or post on which you do NOT know. If you want to know ask those who actually do this for info. DO NOT EVER TELL ME OR ANOTHER employee how to or how they do their jobs OK! BTW if you guess or assume it is BULLSHIT & HORSESHIT! And bullshit & horseshit is bad for ya!

not necessarily , and the car turned off on another block ... Sometimes if there's a move then the company cars don't have to go with the person unless it's more than 1 person . I saw a mechanic from Castleton with 4872 driving it to Ulmer park & he got to Ulmer park & asked for directions on how to get back .

 

If I go to Atlantic Detroit Diesel/ Allison in Lodi, NJ with a bus and don't have a bus to bring back, how do I get back to LGA or any MTA facility for that matter? Or better yet, I take a bus from CP to ECH scrap with nothing in return to CP, how do I get back to CP?

 

 

Some 6000s are being moved to Eastchester...13 are already there, primarily in the low 6000s.

 

Yes, however they have problems. I saw at least two CS Orion V's with their transmissions dropped out of them & 1 with elec. issues last week alone. LGA gets RTS's when ECH can spare them if they are not scrap. I picked up 8913 from Zerega from the "program" & 8945 from ECH after it finished service for the day last Tuesday.

 

 

What about the MCIs @ CP, those buses aren't keeping the CP Mechanics busy?

 

Nope, thay have worked 2 of LGA's MCI's in the last couple of weeks. Keep in mind probs. w/ the C40's are under usually warranty, so they go to NEBus or Cummins (I've brought a few of them there in the past couple of months).

No Maybe tonight or tomorrow ...... You just saw them sunday night so they got to the lot and they worked on them probably yesterday and today so they will be here between tomorrow - friday morning .

 

If these were being deliverd from the factory they have to go to NorthEast Bus for acceptance. They get inspected by MTA & NF personnel (about 12 items)and then get their acceptance package which incudes plates and reg. card copies and then picked up by the depot they are assigned(usually upto 2 weeks). There are about 10 C40's at NEBus today w/o plates and plastic wrap on the front still.

 

Since when does ENY (RTS specialists) need to send an RTS out for repair?? And to a CNG depot??? The world must be ending soon LOL

 

ENY doesn't have alot of maint. bays, contrary to how big the facility is. JG may have little work to do w/ the infux of new buses so they do work thats farmed out. Same thing is happening at CP. CP maint. is a ghost town, so they are willing to A/C work for LGA.

 

 

801 is sitting in College Point, but its on the official DOA list.

 

Sorry to say, 801 is not at CP, it was towed out of CP at least 6 weeks ago. I was supposed to drive it up to ECH for scrap, but the engine was so shot it was inoperable. It started and ran like a shake table while pissing oil w/ coolant in the oil,(check eng.& stop eng. telltales on)then stalled not be started again (plenty of cranking).So the CP decided to have it towed. I watched then put it on a hook.

C40 987 is still in service it's not scrap at least not yet! I saw it on the 43. it said on the scrap list that 987 is pending scrap it's not. 810 is not either.

 

Yes, any buses for scrap have to approved by the CMO's office (Chief Maintainence Officer). The request for has to come from the resident depots' GS Maint. and then evaluated by customer service/DTS (Department of Techinical Services)if any reason to scrap the bus is valid before it is approved for scrap. The big reasons to scrap a bus is structure or bad engine, oddly enough a transmission does always make a bus scrap regardless of age. I know of buses that have had trans. failures require replacement and the trans. was replaced only to have lets say a level 3 bulkhead crack discovered less than a month later, and that would knock the bus down and approved for scrap.

 

 

Its a loaner I believe.

 

 

 

I D K, Database shows it as an in service bus still, the big question is, does it still have plates on it.

 

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College Point has a NovaBus ? Is this temporary or what ?

 

Nova RTS & Orions from LGA go to CP for transmission work, 9308 is there for a trans. seal leak.

 

The quality of work at Zerega has been slipping as of late...I don't know about GA though.

 

Agreed, all 3 RTS' I picked up on tuesday evening have issues.

Huh, that's interesting and it sounds like a genuinely good idea from the MTA for once, those RTSes taken care of could last close to two decades. 190, sounds like most of the 1996s still on the streets will be getting that overhaul then. Good news as I see it.

 

As long as the quality of the work is good and stays that way yes they can last. Not all buses are in the program. I don't know what determines which buses are in the program. It maybe MDBF or a number of items?

 

 

Overhauls? That's a surprise, 8764 is getting on for 17 years old and the others aren't far off. I thought overhauls stopped after 12-13 years...I guess they're registered to LGA since they're slotted to be there for return.

 

The plan is to overhaul 190 '96 Nova RTS to keep them going for another 2 years. These buses are getting an overhaul from, floor sections to replacement of radiators, Wheelchair lift towers to full supension replacement, depending on condition of the componets. The template for the scope of the program is similar to a 12 year overhaul, but not including paint, body work and A/C.

 

 

All of the 400s through 429 are registered at Gleason.

 

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I'm seeing that the RTSes left at ECH are 8934, 8938, 8941-8944, 8948, 8964, 8967, 8991, 9034, 9126, and 9248. The remainder have been sent to LGA while 8750 and 8963 are OOS.

 

ECH's O5s are as follows: 6005, 6008, 6010, 6012-6014, 6017, 6019-6020, 6023, 6027-6028 from what I'm seeing. Contrary to what I've seen here, 6029-6038 are registered at KB but that may be changing soon / now.

 

Speaking of O5s, the six 1996s at CS are 639-640, 644, 647, 655, and 662.

 

8750 is in Gersow scrap yard it was picked up monday evening, not OOS I personally check the shifters log at ECH.

Also received recent Inspection repoprts for SOPU, A/C & inspections for 8955-56 and few others from QV.

 

 

Reading now that all of WF's O5 CNGs have been taken out of service, not sure if they've been shipped off to Eastchester or if they're in the storage lot, maybe somebody can check on this. They're not operating in any case.

 

Walked around Tuskegee today, unfortunately the XD60 is long gone from there, but my real observation was that that's a depot that looks short. No buses were available to be taken out (only three-four were in the depot, all being worked on) and a couple ops were waiting for buses.

 

7626-7628 appear to have also made the journey to the Farms.

 

KB is bleeding a few D60s: 5263, 5276, 5286, 5289, 5294, 5297, 5299 and 5307 all listed as OOS.

 

8764, 8806, 8860, 8862, 8864 all listed as LGA buses (I know some of those have been reported, just thought I'd put it all together). 8933 is gone.

 

Weirdest of all which I'm going to try to personally got out and check, hearing that 8796 is an ENY bus. Another stumper: 9112 is enabled for BusTime.

 

8764,8806, 8862 & 8933 are at Zerega in the overhaul program. I delivered 8933 to Zerega for overhaul Tuesday afternoon.

Well I put your files in another box today, marked it "SEND TO LAGUARDIA" and They should be going out soon

 

 

^Theresthe bus files

 

Got 8955's file today, I wish we had 9085's file. 9085 needs a trans. Also recent Inspection repoprts for SOPU, A/C & inspections.

I doubt its a 8year program bus. And it went to Eastchester (why did I put or zerega...) for that engine work

 

Yeah I picked out 8901-2, 8955 & 9079s files they're sitting in a box waiting to be transferred.

 

Along with various files that have to be sent out to other depots for those buses that moved

 

No it cannot be a 8yr. program, those are 1996 models.

I do not have the assignments for 8810 & 9132. (Well I didn't look them up)

 

I was helping clean out the bus files at QV, and I had pulled over 100 old folders from buses that had left or were scrapped.

I pulled those folders and found where they were located by looking up the bus number on the vehicle management system/bus database in the office so I could sort the folders.

 

Also 9079 wasn't on the current QV rotation sheet, so that's why I had to pull it.

 

I entered 9079

 

On the last 2 lines it said Assignment Lagaurdia depot

 

And in the note section was it was getting engine work at Eastchester or zerega something like that

 

I do not have the assignments for 8810 & 9132. (Well I didn't look them up)

 

I was helping clean out the bus files at QV, and I had pulled over 100 old folders from buses that had left or were scrapped.

I pulled those folders and found where they were located by looking up the bus number on the vehicle management system/bus database in the office so I could sort the folders.

 

Also 9079 wasn't on the current QV rotation sheet, so that's why I had to pull it.

 

I entered 9079

 

On the last 2 lines it said Assignment Lagaurdia depot

 

And in the note section was it was getting engine work at Eastchester or zerega something like that

 

NH: Zerega or ECH? is that a program bus or not? BTW that file has to be sent to LGA for our files then, so I can put in the file drawer at LGA.

You on CRS? Or are you a shifter/drilled??

 

Neither, MTABus has a div. shifter post. I move buses depot to depot, CMF or vendors. Such as ENY, Grand, Zerega, ADDA, CAT, Cummins NE bus/BAE. that kind of shifting. I cover Queens North for MTA bus.