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I'm looking at a scan of the 1997 map and the service guide lists the as a 4th Avenue local during off-hours (evenings, late nights and weekends).

 

EDIT: After reviewing the early '94 and 2000 maps, I can concur that the did run local on 4th Avenue during off-hours. Prior to 1994, the was a full local at all times. It wouldn't be until the   got booted off the express tracks that the would get some semblance of express service that hadn't been seen since '86.

Yeah I remember the was a strange bird back in those days- heck, I even remember seeing an R46 show up on that line once in the late '90s.

Also, I just realized I've never seen a station musician at any of the elevated lines- anyone else notice this?

Any update on Phase 1 progress? I know 72nd Street is behind, and if you've been to Lexington-63rd recently, you can see the renovation's far from finished.  Won't be surprised if they push the opening of the east mezzanine to summer 2017.

Now that I think of it, NYCT never really operated many Orion Vs in Brooklyn, did they?

Okay, so the last three weeks there's been constant unannounced slowdowns on the north of 96th Street during the mid-day.  Lot of guys in orange vests so it's obviously maintenance-related.  Here's the problem: not only is it un-announced, the train basically crawls at about 15 mph for long stretches all the way between 242nd and 96th Street.  What sort of G.O. is this? Anyone know what's going on?

Nah, RTSes.  You know they've stopped giving fvcks when they've ripped off the ads and the rubber strips...

I swear, some of the buses that run out of Eastchester look like they were pulled right off the "pending scrap" line.

Just read that Cortlandt Street on the won't be reopened until at least 2018.  Clearly something is wrong in NY if it takes almost two decades to reconstruct just one goddamn station...

Today seems to be one of those slow news days....
 
1. SI Man Becomes First Undocumented Immigrant in NY to Receive Law License: http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2016/02/3/si-man-becomes-first-undocumented-immigrant-in-ny-to-receive-law-license.html

-Good for him, but does he realize this is in violation of federal law?
 
2. Man Accused of Robbing Armless teen faces Hate Crime Charges: http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2016/02/4/man-accused-of-robbing-armless-teen-faces-hate-crime-charges-.html

-Dafuq? He shouldn't be robbing people, but how the hell is this a 'hate crime'?
 

R-42 SMS? About damn time.  Those things have been seeping rainwater since at least the early 2000s.

As some of you may recall, the almost never ran to Forest Hills after 2001.  The MTA always claimed it was because of "maintenance".  But I just realized that's BS; cutting the back to Court Square once the 63rd Street Connection opened was always their agenda and that's exactly what they implemented.  Pretty slick. 

Exactly; both groups serve their own unique blend of weird and annoying, which just ends up pissing off the rest of us everyday folk...

I used to ride the holiday train, but I got tired of the foamers and the hipsters real fast.

Just curious- did they ever consider building a station at 79th Street? On one hand, I don't blame them for wanting to minimize the amount of stations, but skipping over such a major cross street just seems like an error in judgment...

I've been reminiscing... What did the Metro-North use before the Genesis locomotives? F9s and 10s I guess?

Just wondering: every few years or so I've always seen an R-46 pop up on the , usually during rush hour. Anyone know if this still happens?

I was just thinking, has the MTA given any consideration to putting some R-42s back on the line?

Pedestrians need to be held to the same degree of responsibility as drivers.  No excuses.  That said, the whole Vision Zero package is a bad joke and should be done away with.  I mean, we're talking about a mayor who let his chauffeur hit 50 mph through red lights, but sanctions the unnecessary arrest of bus operators.  DeJesus had no criminal intent.  People need to wake up and vote Warren out...  

I was wondering why Track 1 on the Shuttle is out of service.  My understanding is that they're doing track repairs of some sort, but it seems like it wasn't planned in advance.  Does anyone know the exact nature of the work being done there?

Does anyone know when exactly the R-68 consist runs on the line? I've seen it sitting on  the yard leads at 200th Street station usually around 5 PM weekdays, but I've never actually seen the damn thing in service...

Whenever I see the R-32 consist on the in the afternoons, it's always heading to Lefferts Boulevard.  Does anyone know if they ever send it to Mott Avenue or Beach 116th Street during PM rush hours?

Does anyone know why artics have been showing up on the Bx7? I rode one on that line today and was quite surprised.

As long as my proposals aren't taken too seriously, then I might as well.  Here goes:

IND/BMT:

A- 207th Street to Rockaway Park all times.

B- No changes.

C- 168th Street to Lefferts Boulevard, no change in hours.

D- Move southern terminal to 95th Street-Bay Ridge, no change in hours.

E- No changes.

F- Rush hours, mid-day and evenings express between Bergen Street and Church Avenue.  Rush hours express in peak direction between Neptune Avenue and Church Avenue.

G- Extend to operate between 71st Avenue and Avenue X as a local during rush hours.  Evenings between Kings Highway and Court Square.  All other times operates between Court Square and Church Avenue.

J- Rush hours local in peak direction between Marcy Avenue and Broadway Junction.  Extend to Broad Street all times.

L- No changes.

M- Metropolitan Avenue to Coney Island via Sea Beach Line.  Adopt similar service patterns to current .

N- Move to West End Line.  Rush hours express in peak direction between Ditmars Boulevard and Queensboro Plaza, as well as between 9th Avenue and Bay Parkway.  Rush hours, mid-days and evenings express between 57th Street and Canal Street.

Q- Cut back to 57th Street.

R- Local operating between Ditmars Boulevard and Bay Parkway on West End Line during rush hours.  Mid-day, evenings  and weekends to 9th Avenue.

Franklin Shuttle- Franklin Avenue to Church Avenue, rush hours.  No changes otherwise.

Rockaway Shuttle- Rockaway Park to Mott Avenue, all times.

- Restoration to last known service pattern.

- Restoration, except operates 71st Avenue to Whitehall Street.  Same hours as old .

- Rush hours express in peak direction between Marcy Avenue and Broadway Junction.  Broad Street rush hours only.

- Rush-hour only local service between Bedford Park Boulevard and Canarsie-Rockaway Parkway via 8th Avenue.

IRT:

1- Rush hours local in peak direction between 157th Street and 96th Street.

2- Cutback to Nereid Avenue-238th Street.

3- Late nights to South Ferry.

4- Rush hours express in peak direction between Burnside Avenue and 125th Street.

5- Extension to 241st Street all times.  Rush hours express in peak direction between Gun Hill Road and 3rd Avenue-149th Street.  Dyre Branch becomes shuttle, with select rush-hour trains running express and terminating at Pelham Parkway on Dyre Branch.

6- Rush hours local in peak direction between Pelham Bay Park and 3rd Avenue-138th Street.

- Rush hours express in peak direction between Pelham Bay Park and 3rd Avenue-138th Street.

7- No changes.

- No changes.

(8)- Rush-hour only local between Burnside Avenue and Bowling Green.

- Rush-hour only express in peak direction between 157th Street and 96th Street.  Operates between 215th Street and Times Square.

42nd Street Shuttle- No changes. 

 In many areas it makes no damn sense I know believe me but hey that's legalistics and transit politics for you .

Just because that's the way it is doesn't mean that's the way it should be.

But downtown IND trains move at 30-39 MPH from 125th to midway between 86th and 81st. That's where it is smooth/fast until midway between 86th and 81st. The slower part is around the bend south of 72nd.

 

For uptown, the trains go about 30-39 or so MPH from 59th until midway out of 103rd or 110th. The slower part is 116th, due to the curve between that station and 125th. Those timers only loose you about a minute or two. I've been on many rides where they get between 125th and 59th in 7 minutes so its not really as slow as others make it out to be.

 

If the don't go their usual speeds on the CPW Express and keep on braking, then its obvious that there's another train ahead which forces the timers to prevent the train behind from rocking and create more space between the two.

Yes, but I've heard from multiple sources that trains along that stretch used to hit 45-48 back in the day.  So yeah, compared to thirty years ago when we had graffiti-covered trains that were supposedly on their last legs, the current speeds are rather low, which is just sad.  Speed should be balanced with safety, but the MTA has tipped the scale far too much in favor of 'safety' in the past twenty years.

Does anyone know what justification is used by the TA to keep the CPW express slow between 59th and 125th Street? Southbound is slower than northbound for the most part.  I know there's a major switch just south of 81st Street and there once was a derailment just north of the same station, but otherwise, I don't see the point of the express dragging it's wheels for sixty-six uninterrupted blocks.  The run seemed faster a couple of years ago, but now it's just become so damn slow.