Reguarding the Future of N,Q,and W after SAS

[jolusoji]

I just doing a favor.there has been much discussion about after the 2nd ave subway open regarding the N and Q and possible future of the w route.i will post the propose plan and past route information.

With the city's economic and budgetary recovery in the 1990s, there was a revival of efforts to complete construction of the SAS. Rising ridership on the IRT Lexington Avenue Line, the only subway trunk line east of Central Park, demonstrated the need for the Second Avenue Line, as capacity and safety concerns rose.

The MTA's final environmental impact statement was approved in April 2004; the latest proposal is for a two-track line from 125th Street and Lexington Avenue inHarlem, down Second Avenue to Hanover Square in the Financial District. The new subway line will actually carry two services. The full-length Second Avenue line, extending from Harlem to the Financial District, probably will be given the turquoiseT as its letter designation. However, it is the other service, a proposed reroute of the Q, which will begin carrying passengers first.

The MTA plan calls for building the Second Avenue Subway in four segments with connections to other subway lines. The first segment (Phase One) is a proposed reroute of the Q, BMT Broadway Line across 63rd Street and north along Second Avenue to the Upper East Side at 96th Street. Phase Two will extend the rerouted Q train to 125th Street.

The W was introduced on July 22, 2001 when the Manhattan Bridge north tracks were closed for reconstruction. The B had run full-time from Coney Island – Stillwell Avenue to Manhattan via the BMT West End Line and Manhattan Bridge north tracks onto the IND Sixth Avenue Line, but had to be split as a result of the reconstruction project. A similar split had been made from 1986 to 1988, when a part-time orange diamond B only ran north of 34th Street. Meanwhile, a full-time (though only in Brooklyn at nights) yellow B ran from Coney Island across the south side of the bridge and up the BMT Broadway Line into Queens. This old pattern was effectively restored in 2001, but instead of having two "B" services, the Brooklyn service became the W. This route began at Coney Island and ran up the West End Line (local), BMT Fourth Avenue Line (express), Manhattan Bridge south tracks, Broadway Line (express, switching to local for 49th Street), and BMT Astoria Line (express during rush hours in the peak direction) to Astoria – Ditmars Boulevard. Evening service ended at 57th Street in Manhattan (using the express tracks and bypassing 49th Street), late night service at 36th Street in Brooklyn, and weekend service at Atlantic Avenue – Pacific Street in Brooklyn.^[2]

After September 11, 2001, N service was suspended and W trains ran at all times between Ditmars Boulevard and Coney Island. It made all stops except in Brooklyn north of 36th Street. During late nights, it ran in two sections, between Ditmars Boulevard and 34th Street (skipping 49th Street northbound) and in Brooklyn between 36th Street and Coney Island. Normal service on both trains resumed on October 28.

The Astoria express service, being unpopular with residents, was discontinued on January 15, 2002. Around that time, evening service was extended from 57th Street to Astoria.^[3]

When Coney Island – Stillwell Avenue was closed for reconstruction, the W became a full-time Coney Island–Astoria service. Late night and weekend service was sent via theMontague Street Tunnel and the local tracks of the Fourth Avenue and Broadway Lines; the N ran only in Brooklyn at those times.^[4] [5]

When all four tracks on the Manhattan Bridge were restored to service on February 22, 2004, the W was changed to its final service pattern, running weekdays only from 7:00 a.m. to 9:30 p.m. (7:00 to 21:30) as an entirely local service between Ditmars Boulevard and Whitehall Street – South Ferry, Lower Manhattan. The Brooklyn portion was replaced by the D, which was extended over the north side of the bridge and down the West End Line.^[6] The first three W trains of the day, however, entered service at 86th Street inGravesend, Brooklyn and the last three trains of the night continued in service to Kings Highway. These trips ran local in Brooklyn via the Montague Street Tunnel, BMT Fourth Avenue and Sea Beach lines.^[7][8]

On July 27, 2008, the W was extended to run until 11:00 p.m.^[9]

On March 24, 2010 the Metropolitan Transportation Authority announced the elimination of the W due to financial shortfalls with the N and Q replacing it. The W service ceased operation on June 25, 2010, along with the V, with the last train bound for Astoria – Ditmars Boulevard leaving Whitehall Street – South Ferry at 10:50 p.m.

The Q Broadway Express is a rapid transit service in the B Division of the New York City Subway. It is colored sunflower yellow on route signs, station signs, and the official subway map, since it uses the BMT Broadway Line in Manhattan.

The Q operates at all times. Weekday service is between Ditmars Boulevard in Astoria, Queens and Stillwell Avenue in Coney Island, Brooklyn, running express south of 34th Street – Herald Square, crossing over the Manhattan Bridge south side, and making all stops elsewhere. Night and weekend service short turns at 57th Street – Seventh Avenue in Midtown Manhattan, skipping 49th Street.

The N Broadway Local is a service of the New York City Subway. Its route bullet is colored sunflower yellow, which appears on station signs and the NYC Subway map, as it represents a service provided on the BMT Broadway Line through Manhattan.

The N service operates at all times between Ditmars Boulevard in Astoria, Queens, and Stillwell Avenue in Coney Island, Brooklyn viaAstoria in Queens, the south side of the Manhattan Bridge, and Fourth Avenue and Sea Beach lines in Brooklyn.

Daytime N service in Brooklyn bypasses DeKalb Avenue, runs express on Fourth Avenue and local elsewhere. During late nights, it makes all stops along its entire route and uses the Montague Street Tunnel to travel between Manhattan and Brooklyn, replacing theR.

It is of note that the Montague Street Tunnel is closed for Hurricane Sandy-related repairs until October 2014. Therefore, N trains run via the Manhattan Bridge at all times.

The backround information

[Lance]

Is there a specific point you're trying to make with this post? There's really no need to copy and paste the Wikipedia article on the Second Avenue subway (complete with all the hyperlinks to boot). Besides, we pretty much already know what the N and Q will be doing once the line to 96th Street opens. The Q will obviously serve the Second Ave extension and if the W returns, which is likely, the N will probably revert back to its 2004-2010 pattern (express on weekdays, local other times).

 

I'm going to lock this thread because it could've easily been asked in the Second Ave discussion thread.