rick1032

On 10/28/2023 at 3:11 PM, Q43LTD said:

I just realized Lakewood would have 2 routes running between Sutphin and 142. The proposed 109 and 40, similar to Liberty having the 9 and 57 between Sutphin and the Van Wyck. Lakewood is very narrow. I would move this 109 to 109 Av to Sutphin or use Liberty 

i would agree to an extent. i would leave the Q109 to run on Lakewood Avenue only. But the proposed Q40, it would be the following.

 

Southbound to 135 Ave: From Sutphin Blvd, i would make the Q40 turn right on 111 Ave instead of Lakewood Ave then turn left on 142 St, and regular route.

Northbound to Hillside Ave: From Rockaway Blvd, I would make the Q40 turn right on 142nd Pl, then make right at 119th Rd, then left at 143rd St then make right at 111 Ave, then left at Sutphin Blvd and regular route.

 

i would use 111 Avenue because the roads are much wider than Lakewood Ave. and also making a tight left turn from Lakewood onto Remington/143 (by the triangle) is going to be extremely difficult hence the opposing traffic from 109 Av have to curve right to make a left or right turn to (Lakewood Ave [right turn] or 109 Ave[left turn])

19 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Haven't checked all of the proposals, but everything below and including the Q68 proposal is straight up unnecessary. They either parallel routes way too much, does not serve a sizable base, look like they're drawn out just because, or all three. 

i fixed the maps. And the Q68 proposal is a little unnecessary since i saw the van wyck expy recently hence the Q10A discontinuation 

20 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

You know it's bad when google thinks your ideas suck - To the point they put these shitz on straight lockdown ......

 

...nah, but seriously though, you gotta change the permissions on your maps so that anyone with the link can view them.

i fixed it and welcome to the USO penitentiary 

20 hours ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said:

@rick1032, I don't have permission to view the maps. Can you change that please so I can get a better understanding of what you're proposing?

 

i fixed it 

I would take a loss on this one (because i was unaware it has a lock on it). But i have fixed the maps that has a lock on it. Now everyone can see all of the proposals that i had made.The reason why I make most of the bus routes parallel to each other for two reasons, one for FASTTRACK (trying to reduce shuttle bus usage). Two, the complaint of the MTA boards talking about workers abusing overtime (which is a full of crock); that's why the union president was putting them in their place. Also, by saying they dont have any money thus raising fares and crap. My proposal was a better update than I did last year because I have to go on different bus routes to see which area needs bus service and which don't need any. Also, i hate buses that bunches either because if the drivers are being lazy or some of the streets are too narrow to pass due to double parking and other factors. The buses I have no opinion on, I need help about it because with the whole queens bus redesign is that going to benefit us or screw us like what they did with the SIM project.

As time goes by, my proposals may shrink due to every day bus observation as well as better ideas (which I hope its better than mine) as well as the MTA's propaganda.

This following proposal are updated from last year

 

Q1: Braddock Ave branch only. Discontinue Springfield Blvd branch

Q2: no opinion

Q3: no opinion

Q4: No LTD Service, local service for the new Q90SBS on linden blvd

Q5: LTD service becomes SBS, Local service remains the same, SBS to Green Acres all day, SBS to Rosedale LIRR station overnight.

Q6:  new Q82SBS service replaces Q6LTD (via Sutphin blvd/150 St) , local service remains the same.

Q7:  No Euclid ave service. Q7 replaces the Q21 from Cross Bay Bl and Sutter ave to Howard Beach 164 Ave (via Lindenwood) map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.665191,-73.8363137,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1YPfCGf19qx4ZqSAW5FKCgMDLxnqoV_nm

Q8: no opinion

 

Q9: extended to JFk Airport via 130 st, parallel with the Q10 local. map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.67647,-73.8261383,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1tcgX_49YwH-puNUNp2n4EEFkBGIPMVMu

 

Q10: LTD service becomes sbs

Q11: Last stop is Howard Beach- JFK Airport  station. no Hamilton Beach or Old Howard Beach service, Increase service map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6972942,-73.8884317,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1322PQCOza-9fpbr9og95EDiwD3LJYKdl

Q12: Local to the new Q93SBS, no changes

Q13: Parallel to the new Q80 on bell blvd

Q15/15A: no changes

Q16: only Francis Lewis service only, Utopia Pkwy service is replaced for the new Q91 service

Q17: no changes

Q18: Middle Village  station to Astoria- 27 Av/2 St via 69 st, woodside ave, 30 ave map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7438605,-73.9412472,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s18bq9Fbqt5MmUfF9VGeHIBVOLB6KL9t8C

Q19: via roosevelt av/108 st instead of northern blvd map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7631329,-73.9118812,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s13uA2b6_gh3wdGUR4cNCvAmiEXYY6FwE5

Q20A/B: remains the same

Q21: Discontinued

Q22: no opinion

Q23: 108 street thru route from Ditmars Blvd to Queens Blvd,, (forest hills- union tpk to ditmars bl or laguardia airport central term) map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7400614,-73.8932307,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1G-YBr0P63yMIugNx2xMBtdteTeY6glRj

Q24: no opinion

Q25: LTD Service becomes SBS

Q26: discontinued

Q27: 48 ave then springfield blvd instead of Luke place/216 St, service remains unchanged

Q28: no opinion

Q29: no opinion

Q30: remains unchanged 

Q31: remains unchanged

Q32: no opinion

Q33: no opinion

Q34: Discontinue or extend to fort totten via willets pt bl?

Q35: no opinion

Q36: little neck service only

Q37: no aquaduct

Q38: no opinion

Q39: no opinion

Q40: (to 135 ave) remains the same, (to hillside ave) via 142 pl, 119 rd, 143 street map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.686606,-73.8216697,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1__Iazdt4ajlqU7yQOJuqfplD-Pei47I3

Q41: remains unchanged

Q42: no opinion

Q43: LTD becomes sbs

Q44: no change

Q46: SBS to Lake Success only, local to Glen Oaks only

Q47: extend to Myrtle Av/80 st via Atlas pk

Q48: no change

Q49: reroute via 34 ave instead of 35 ave  map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7541181,-73.8866639,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1H8D-711LQf0e1YyaZhpwBdMHmulRIXqo

Q50: remains unchanged

Q52/53: remains the same

Q54: metropolitan ave thru route during rush hours.

Q55: Local to the new Q92 SBS.

Q56: increase service in lieu of   shuttle from 121 st to bway Jct.

Q58: no opinion

Q59: no opinion

Q60: this is very controversial topic because some wants an LTD/SBS on this line. others want it to stop at queensboro plz. (no opinion)

Q61: SBS service to broadway jct to floral park/ 257 st via Jamaica ave. map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7030271,-73.8601421,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s10zIEJfs6ZFqdUXClhsAVrMmM5l0

Q62: SBS to east ny pitkin ave (local to bway jct/ vn sndrn av) via liberty ave map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6879676,-73.8750666,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1ewM2T1Hl_-dKoZeK3c2yExnuc_c

Q64: extend to queensboro community college via jewel ave/73 ave map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7377734,-73.8261553,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1kPKimR-5CCOQo--3W7CSmyOBjZMOAtYd

Q65: only reroute is sanford av then parsons blvd then 46 ave then pidgeon meadow road then regular route map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7422301,-73.8702868,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1DokWFuie5aNBG5SxgwZS1IJ8KzwrccP-

Q66: no opinion

Q67: no opinion

Q68: local to S. jamaica 133 ave  map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.691509,-73.8371142,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1G7dErf0M3KhPYAhY-MFCAKxPn4g, SBS to JFK airport  map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6790918,-73.8379809,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1uLjE6T8FQBJ_fyueoYS8gK6v18g

Q69: no opinion

 

Q70: no change

Q71: jamaica 165 st term to jfk airport n.boundary road via 157 st/ long st map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6794155,-73.810367,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1WJbY1JBuye6H33pzNKVgDfqlwVI

Q72: no opinion

Q73: SBS from Queens center mall to Little Neck L. NECK PKY via H. Harding map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7495665,-73.8373152,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1WVg3xzseCL3KAOMwUrgKcoqy344

Q76: local to the new Q78 LTD from college pt to hillside ave

Q77: local to the new Q78 LTD from hillside ave to Springfield blvd then parallel to the new Q80 to 145 rd

Q78: LTD only service from parsons Blvd-14 ave to 148 avenue hook creek blvd via f. Lewis blvd (Q78A/B college pt-132 St to 148 ave/hook creek blvd , A:via 14 av then 20th av, B: via 20 av then 14 av)  map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7830936,-73.8333252,16z/data=!4m2!6m1!1s1z2v2tj8r9jg0R2-hv4McEJoag4g

Q80: springfield blvd thru route from 147 av/222 st to bay terrace-23 av via bell bl map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7207761,-73.8189454,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1WL2oR_G_f2qyA4H8oUKJWhs-CIs

Q81: rockaway blvd thru SBS  from 75 st- Elderts LN  station to Far rockaway- seagirt blvd map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6432361,-73.8459737,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1CvgCqHeILyuMrel_8bcQ8bO7ODQ

Q82SBS: sutphin blvd/ 150 st thru route from Jamaica 165 st term to jfk airport map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6762355,-73.8244474,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1XbEp-dYD4MY4t_KFGq26HXtxCOM

Q83: local for the new Q62 sbs

Q84: no opinion 

Q85: Reroute to farmers blvd then conduit ave map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6811423,-73.7840277,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1Y-FmROehDOPpmREbZ7VU53bRVAu6CrL6

Q87: weekday only service JFk airport to St. Albans farmers bl- and linden bl via Baisley blvd map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6679198,-73.8005466,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1GehNMkuKSratWaGgRMsi3w2W3Tc

Q88: no change

Q89:  local Rockaway blvd  station to Jamaica 165 st term via rockaway bl, linden bl and merrick bl map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6924601,-73.828856,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1ep4xbdM2lu5o9ywsmkiWRKnSz_0

Q90: linden blvd SBS thru route from Rockaway blvd  station to Cambria heights-235 st (no aquaduct service) map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6868841,-73.817381,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1kDDlnbKpgJFRBLWy4lLPaz6_GoM

Q91: Utopia pkwy local thru route from jamaica 165 st term to fort totten map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7486375,-73.8295883,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1tW-2kP9_cO8u51-ACoj4vSbrqlQ

Q92: myrtle avenue SBS thru route from downtown brooklyn to jamaica LIRR station. map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6982919,-73.947376,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1D6C3CgMgdjyVnmeIjkDV4ecRvpw

Q93: northern blvd SBS thru route from queensboro plz to little neck glenwood street map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7600041,-73.8973814,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1n3skql5XGSRNXVfrE9nhcAPLs14

Q94: atlantic ave SBS thru route from jamaica LIRR sta- airtrain to cobble hill map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6882012,-73.9574694,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1iRZbUw6B1mmIBOCwAbeJf6CRPXo

Q95: SBS only service from greenpoint-west st to flushing main st sta via greenpoint and roosevelt ave (A/B to citi field game days only) , increase service in lieu of the shuttle map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7450303,-73.9306671,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1NSYZWRe703-g3zFnbKlEs5PNumM

Q100: no opinion

Q101: no opinion

Q102: no opinion

Q103: no opinion

Q104: no opinion

 

Q107:  JFK airport- lefferts blvd Airtrain sta to Jamaica hillside-153 via Lefferts blvd, 109 Ave, via T. Airmen Way (South Road) map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6844036,-73.8316703,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1LiXkftIrX-2sGdpRToHG52Zmdkk

Q108:  JFK airport to jamaica hillside-153 via 154/155 sts, via 125 ave map:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6757447,-73.8199135,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s1k1eKk0QO3S67ANS_P-45OdpBGao

Q109: Hammels- Beach 94th Street to jamaica hillside-153, via 109 Ave/Cross Bay blvd, (via lindenwood late nights) map: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6457587,-73.881658,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!6m1!1s14bw-F_SAaXO_dvHLUJui7FLbwCw

Q110: no opinion 

Q111: no opinion

Q112: discontinue service in place of the new Q62 bus

Q113LTD: new SBS service

Q114LTD: new SBS service

 

The reason some of the current bus route has a "no opinion" is because i haven't ride them as frequently as much compare of the other bus routes that i have rode in the past 20 years. if you have any opinions about the map designated for each route. As well as the one that has no opinion, I need to know so i can learn from each and everyone. what proposal make sense as well as one that is unnecessary.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

Now why on god's good green doggone earth would I want to talk to the likes of you in a video chat about these long winded, highly duplicative, ignorant of the rest of the bus network bus routes of yours.... To hear you regurgitate the same lame duck, *oh let me just concoct any ole thing so these people can shut up* explanations of them that you posted earlier in this thread? You really are full of yourself.... Don't talk to me about someone being in their feelings either, when you are the same dude talking about "let's love each other" on a transit forum.... TF is this, Jerry Springer's final thought? A Joel Osteen sermon? Go home with all that.....

That poor SOB that fell down those stairs in that GIF was classic, you gotta admit .... Now I don't wish actual harm to you, per se (because it aint nowhere near that serious), but you are a bit of an irritant.... This isn't about any puffing of chests, wanting of beef, or busting of chops - I'm not hungry, but thank you... It is about some of these asinine, asi-10, asi-11 ass ideas of yours & your unwillingness to take heed to the critique that you actually did end up getting....

You are not unique around these parts, you're straight up cookie-cutter - just like the rest of these hot shots that have these ideas that (think) they got things all figured out... If these are supposed to be old ideas, then why haven't you modernized them? If you even have the wherewithal to.... Things that make you go Hmm.....

(Kicks that mic')

 

(Picks up a mic) There is a difference between constructive criticism and being disrespectful; your messages are in more of disrespectful category than the constructive criticism aspect. Also, your messages verified something about you, that you really are that you're "claiming" that I am. And I bet my dollar, you would try to block me or get me banned or whatever. I'm not an internet thug as you perceived me to be; hence your second to last message. As much I would ether you just like 50 cent did to Ja Rule, I wouldn't do that because we all should be brothers; also we should help each other make ideas. Also, I learn to take everyone seriously and don't take anyone lightly because we never know what each party is capable of (since you use PinePowerLI and I completely agree with you that he's unstable and go through extreme length to make someone life a living hell). You have to get ready for someone worse than him and trust me, there is a new millennium of people who have this "hotshot" persona which you claimed that I have. And the only difference between me and them, is that we (me and you) on the internet debating but at the end of day, we go on our real life and focus on other aspects of things. Unlike this current generation (tight pants and emotionally ready f-boys), they would video tape everything whether if its a fight or go on and act a fool. or even worse calling someone out and actually doing some stalker or "unsolved mystery" crap.

And yes, I'm a walking contradiction and I'm proud of being a walking contradiction. I don't believe in logic and November 9, 2016 proved that there is no such thing as logic. I rather loved to be proven wrong and learn from my mistakes. In contrast of your approach, you're playing with fire and I was like you. I was the person who is like Enzo Amore (Wrestling reference) and look what happened to him; got major heat with other wrestlers, getting kicked off the company bus and got demoted. Or I can go back to your time, Morton Downey Jr.; biggest loudmouth of all time. He makes Simon Cowell look like Tinkerbell. What happen to me, you asked? I got shut down by facts and that was my very first lesson of humility. But as the old saying goes you can't teach a old dog new tricks.  If you think that I'm a novice, a peon, a nobody; prove it to me. Prove that I'm a carbon copy of hotshots here. Accept my challenge of the debate and we can get an UNBIASED moderator who can regulate the debate. Where I come from, if someone challenge me to a debate on something that I'm good at; I would accept it and ether my challengers. Also, I can keep in mind that I can be wrong. I see you in the category of Lavar Ball. I'll be like Mike Rapaport and ether you.  (throws the mic between your legs) IT'S TRUE! IT'S DAMN TRUE!!! 

4 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

I didn't say YOU were a spambot... Re-read that sentence again.

Anyway, your first posts were incoherent & not feasible to read.... That is nobody's else's fault but yours... You caught flack for that.... You made a youtube video out of emotion - That said more than enough....

So let's not start playing innocent victim here..... Don't try to spin it like we're turning down newcomers just for the hell of it.... I'll give you the perfect example of someone that used to post wild ideas when he first came into this online community, but has exuded a hell of a lot more sensibility in his suggestions & quite frankly, how he handles himself on here... and that person is@BM5 via Woodhaven.... I'm sure if he sees this thread, he'll confirm & in the process, look back at the suggestions he made yeeaarrsss ago as being, flat out stupid.....

I'm going to close this out by saying, Start acting like someone who is eager to learn.... That goes for you & any other newcomer to this forum.

I understand that my very first post is incoherent and I agree with you on that. If you have understand the content of the video, it's more like "what the hell" than more of a slander video. I challenged you on a video chat debate about each of my proposed route and you have yet to answer. I'm eager to learn but you have to stop with "the puffing up on the chest" and have humility and modify your approach to future newcomers. And if you have read my first post or my video, I have used a disclaimer which states, " I am a newcomer, please don't bust my chops. It's my very first forum, just take it easy." Since you have disregard my forum disclaimer, either you or your entourage put a meme about a guy that trip over some stairs and fell in the hole which all of you referring to me. On a personal note, I have felt legitimately offended. We can disagree or agree on certain topics but when it comes to the meme and you getting into your feelings through your messages. I felt like that you want a legit beef with me and I'm not looking for that. And I'm always eager to learn but your approach needs to change. When I use the term "with all due respect", I have respect for people who are elders and people who have experience on certain things and I'm not expecting you to respect me. That's how I am raised because we live in an era that people don't care about respect anymore and my generation is partly responsible for it (90-93 babies). But at the end of the day, let's love each other instead of taking things to a level that is really not necessary for both parties. (Drops the mic)

59 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

Don't flatter yourself... I've caught more heat from spambots than anything you said in that whiny ass video of yours.

You should be embarrassed - On here amping up Pinepower like he's some sort of transit guru.... The guy's a whimperous (just like that weak sauce ass video of yours *so-called* calling us out), miserable, never satisfied, "poop my pants" (his words), living off the public dole, failure at life ass RACIST.... You want to support a piece of garbage like that, then to hell with you too.....

What a gleeful moment it was, back when some of those hispanics in his area had him scared shitless when they ended up finding out his phone # - prank calling him all times of the day.... What kind of god damn nutcase goes around walking around town recording "illegals" "loitering"? Yeah, they spotted him one day - Ahi esta, Ahi esta (There he is, there he is)..... The man's lucky that's ALL they did was prank call him.....

I never know that he could be a part of these forums? Little do you know that he has quite the history on these transit forums... He's been banned from here TWICE (minimum), banned from City-Data at least once, and got ran off subchat multiple times and his last stint on this forum here as well.... Like you, he also made some whiny ass video so-called calling us out.... He even kept text logs of all the things people on these forums ever said that hurt his little tissue paper feelings; planned to use it as "evidence" - Threatened to call the authorities on some of us (Yes, I was one the names he mentioned).... This was around 6 or 7 years ago - I'm still waiting for that knock on my door....

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There was no assumption made with that last reply, I used your own words against you... Call it being open-minded if you wish...

To hell with "my borough" & there being some heated debate, I know more about Queens' bus routes than you do - I guarantee that.... You chose the right one, kid...... Anybody that thinks bus routes running between [Broadway Junction to Floral Park], [Downtown Brooklyn to LIRR Jamaica], [Glenmore plaza houses to St. Albans] especially, has got to be one ignorant son of a gun.... There is NOTHING you could muster up to try to pass that crap off as plausible.... The modus operandi of your types always justify long winded ass routes by having them as LTD's or SBS'.... Been through the myriad of *hot shot, I'm a newcomer, I got shit all figured out* irritant types over the years..... They're all the same & they all justify their ideas the same way..... Their commentaries & suggestions end up getting shot down because they convey & portray little to no understanding of how the routes they draw up would affect the bus network (if they even consider the rest of the network to begin with), then getting butthurt because there isn't anybody co-signing their suggestions.... Then NYCTF becomes public enemy #1....

I don't think you get the full gist of how extensive the knowledge archived & displayed on this forum is (even if it has our own little personal twists on things).... Surface or Rapid transit.... We do DEEP into shit, some more than others..... We learn off each other & that is key..... And Inside information? Forget it, the shit's A1 - Untouchable...

So with no due respect, don't lecture me on being a hindrance.... Capice? Comprende? Got it, Rick?

Let me tell you something, I don't agree with PinePowerLI in terms with the hispanics and all the other races which he mentioned. That's why I fast forward his video when he talk about hispanics, blacks and other minorites and look for the bus aspect of his videos. That's an another story for another time. To remind you, I am not for #45 like he was. And I'm have proven that I'm not spambot, since you have watch my video. I specifically said if anyone has a problem, we would have a video chat and have a debate just like the mayoral debate about each proposal and how we can make each proposal better because I agree with the bus aspect of his argument but the other stuff he has done here to you guys, I don't what's going on between him and the other members here; I don't get involved in other people's problem. All I care about my problem, and maybe your right. I don't know too much about buses and other things. That is why I have joined this forum, so I can increase my knowledge by having an open mind and retain information from other people and learn from it. And the way you wrote this long message, you don't want anyone to learn about the bus/rail fanning community. In fact, you are actually hindering future bus/rail fanners. So instead of bashing me, just say my proposal is adequate but let me explain how the bus system really works and i would have make my proposals better or eliminate some of my proposals. And I never am a hotshot, I'm very humble. If I was a hot shot, i would write a response more on emotion just like the message above but I'm really not. And I don't believe in lecturing people, I'm more like suggesting or giving an advice. Take it from me personally, the best lesson learned is personal experience. Don't be like #45, let us be like Obama (i'm a proud democrat). And let's have a future debates that doesn't lead into violence or any emotional conflict. I want you to watch "Enter the Dragon" there is a scene of how Bruce Lee taught the boy how to fight or think of "the Karate Kid" (it can be a remake too) of how the Kid has a mentor that teaches him every aspect of the martial arts by doing weird and unusual tactics. In other words, some people want to be your apprentice or other members apprentice. Don't turn down the newcomer whether if its me or anyone else. Take advantage of spreading your knowledge of someone who is eager to learn from you.

 

1 minute ago, NY1635 said:

People are moving out of Suffolk County because they don't want to put up with the long commute into the city on the LIRR, traffic on the expressways, high school taxes, and low quality of living. Same goes for Nassau east of the Meadowbrook and South of Merrick Road. NICE only giving Nassau the bus service they're willing to pay for. I doubt PinePower understand that the demand for bus service in Nassau has shifted away from within the county, to transporting people in and out of it. It's why the n4,n6, n22/n24, n15, n31/32, n40/n41, and n43 are doing well out of all the routes in the system.

I never knew about suffolk county. I just found out that there is a county executive election in Nassau and which one of the person who is running for county executive trying to void the contract with transdev (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-fS7dovz1Y&t=251s) and hopefully might bring back the MTA (highly doubt it). I agree with you about the shift of Nassau but that why I see a lot of people moving to Queens mostly Jamaica. To the point they call Jamaica Ave Downtown Jamaica. I felt like gentrification is in full effect. But thank you for giving me your insight.

 

7 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

You just destroyed your own argument..... You're implicating that some of these routes of yours aren't long, while concurrently making a talking point out of population increases b/w 5 years ago & now.... By that grand logic, runtime would be longer because there would be more people presumably using these bus routes of yours...

Now go on & make a youtube video about that too.

I guess you saw my Youtube video. Which means you felt offended that I have categorized some people on here that was blocking future people who want to be interested in a part of this or any future forum-based website. When I use certain Youtubers who ACTUALLY lived in their counties can verify their problems about their bus service. You assume that I'm destroying my own argument (which I am not). It's called being open minded. Unless you want me be like #45 and have a close-minded attitude (which you are having right now), most times we have to help each other to make certain proposals better or justify why each proposal is better. That is why I gave the person before the assignment of why each proposed bus route is long and I can counter the argument or agree with certain things. Just like another person who went down route by route of why each one is good or why each one is bad. When I use these YouTubers PinePowerLI or Andrew Lee, you never know that they could be part of this forum-based website. Also, they have references too; whether if its first-person account (their own experience) or third-person account (from newsday, or other website). If I was making proposal about Brooklyn (according to your profile), we would have a heated debate because it's your borough and you know more about Brooklyn than me. So, with all due respect don't be like the people that I refer to about hindering the growth of the bus/rail fanning community. Instead, be the one who actually encourages the growth of the bus/rail fanning community.

10 hours ago, darrianQ60 said:

@rick1032 those routes wouldnt work they are way to far in distance and long  

I have an assignment for you and it's a very simple one. Look at the link of each of the proposed routes and explain how each route is long and far in distance, and I would attempt to counter your statement or agree with it. Also, look at the population in the neighboring areas that each proposed route travel now versus 5 years ago. Finally, go to YouTube and look up PinePowerLI as well as Andrew Lee; watch their videos about NICE Bus and how people living in Nassau is either moving back to the boroughs for more convenient bus services or move to Suffolk County 

On 10/17/2017 at 1:54 AM, rick1032 said:

I have updated my post about the bus routes that i have previously mentioned. This is the updated version of each bus route that i have created and I will put the link of each bus on this post and also i have a video response for all members who responded to the post and berated the way that I write on here and i gave you a plethora of disclaimers, but you ignore my my disclaimers.

1. (Q52 SBS Jamaica LIRR STA or Downtown brooklyn Jay street via myrtle av),Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bq_STGKLj3BeLEcxzjmctqzbnyg 

Explanation: help ease the B54 and the Q55 buses,

2. (Q61 SBS Floral Park 257 Street or Broadway Jct Van sinderen Ave via Jamaica ave), Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=10zIEJfs6ZFqdUXClhsAVrMmM5l0

Explanation: help ease the Q36,56,110 Buses.

3. (Q62 LCL/LTD St. Albans Linden blvd (or Farmers Blvd/Brinkerhoff Ave) or East NY Pitkin Ave (or Cypress Hills Sheridan Ave) via Liberty ave) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ewM2T1Hl_-dKoZeK3c2yExnuc_c

Explanation: Easy Access to St Albans, Jamaica, Richmond Hill, Ozone Park, Cypress hills and the East New York areas. Semi restoration of the cypress Hill branch.

4. (Q68 South Jamaica 133 ave or Kew Gardens Union Tpke Sta via Van wyck exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G7dErf0M3KhPYAhY-MFCAKxPn4g

Explanation: Easier service from kew gardens briarwood and jamaica. easing the dependency on the q40 from 135av-143 st since the q40 dont loop around 140 street anymore

5. (Q68 sbs JFK airport or Kew Gardens Union Tpke Sta via van wyck exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uLjE6T8FQBJ_fyueoYS8gK6v18g

Explanation: Same as 4, but as well easier stops including to kew gardens via jamaica av/queens blvd.

6. (Q71 local/ LTD Jamaica 165 st term or Jfk Airport N. boundary rd via 157/ long streets) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WJbY1JBuye6H33pzNKVgDfqlwVI

Explanation: ease tension on the guy brewer Lines from baisley blvd/ long street to Jamaica/ 160 street as well of direct service to august martin high school as well as helping the q6 since there would be no q6ltd since q82 sbs will take the Q6 LTD place on sutphin blvd

7. (Q73 SBS Little Neck L. Neck Pky or Queens center mall via H.Harding exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WVg3xzseCL3KAOMwUrgKcoqy344

explanation: ease tension on the q88, q30.

8. (Q78 LTD Whitestone Parsons Blvd or Rosedale 148 ave via F. Lewis, q78 Local College pt 20 ave [via 14 av]/college pt 14 av [via 20 av] or Rosedale 148 ave via F. Lewis) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1z2v2tj8r9jg0R2-hv4McEJoag4g

explanation: ease the q76,q77. also exposing a route for the rosedale, cambria heights and college pt without multiple buses

9. (Q80 Bay Terrace 23 ave or Rosedale 147 av-225 street via springfield/bell blvds [via queensboro every other trip])Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WL2oR_G_f2qyA4H8oUKJWhs-CIs

explanation: ease the tension or the q77,27 also make a second option bus to bay terrace. easier to queensboro to bay terrace without transferring to flushing or depending on the q31.

10. (Q81 local Ozone Park libery ave or Far Rockaway Seagirt blvd via Rockaway blvd, central ave, Q81sbs Woodhaven 75 St Sta or Far Rockaway Seagirt Blvd via Rockaway blvd,Burnside ave, nassau exy, central ave) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CvgCqHeILyuMrel_8bcQ8bO7ODQ

explanation: woodhaven to far rockaway or ozone park to far rockaway service

11. (Q82 SBS Jamaica 165 St Term or Jfk Airport via sutphin/150 St) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XbEp-dYD4MY4t_KFGq26HXtxCOM 

explanation: replace the q6 LTD and quicker service to JFK (airtrain and Q3 alternate)

12. (Q87 St. Albans Farmers-Linden or JFK airport via Baisley blvd/150 Street weekday rush only) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GehNMkuKSratWaGgRMsi3w2W3Tc

explanation: local rush service for the Q82 SBS and help St. albans and Rochdale Village

13. (Q89 Jamaica 165 St Term or Ozone Park Liberty Ave via linden blvd [via aquaduct every other trips on weekend]), Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ep4xbdM2lu5o9ywsmkiWRKnSz_0

Explanation: easier subway transfer point as well as an alternative for the q112,41,109 to Jamaica

14. (Q90sbs ozone park Liberty ave or Cambria Heights 235 street via Linden bl [no aquaduct]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kDDlnbKpgJFRBLWy4lLPaz6_GoM

explanation: elimation of the Q4LTD service, limited service for the Q4,89. Needed a cambria heights-ozone park branch.

15. (Q91 Fort Totten or Jamaica 165 St Term via homelawn st/utopia pky) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tW-2kP9_cO8u51-ACoj4vSbrqlQ

Explanation: people wanted a fort totten/jamaica branch.

16. (Q93SBS Little Neck Glenwood street or LI City Queens Plz via Northern BL/ flushing [union st,roosevelt av, main st]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n3skql5XGSRNXVfrE9nhcAPLs14

Explanation: limted route for the q101,66,13,12

17. (Q94 LCL/SBS Jamaica LIRR Sta or Cobble Hill Columbia St (sbs to barclays ctr game day only) via atlantic av/94 av) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iRZbUw6B1mmIBOCwAbeJf6CRPXo

Explanation: limited route for the q24, and an easier service to barclays ctr

18.(Q95 LCL/LTD Greenpoint West St or Flushing Main Station via Roosevelt/greenpoint aves, Q95A-LTD greenpoint west st and citi field via roosevelt/greenpoint aves,Q95B-LTD Flushing Main St Sta via Roosevelt ave [q95A/B LTD pick up to game drop off from game]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NSYZWRe703-g3zFnbKlEs5PNumM

Explanation: limited/local route for the b24,Q32,48, Alternate service for  or  trains in case of fast track from 52nd street to Flushing Main Street

18. (Q107 Jamaica Hillsde-153 street or JFK airport Lefferts airtrain station via T.A. Way (south road)/107 Ave/lefferts Blvd) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LiXkftIrX-2sGdpRToHG52Zmdkk

explanation: Easier route for the Q10 LTD to Lefferts blvd Airtrain station at night after 9pm

19. (Q108LCL/LTD  Jamaica Hillsde-153 street or JFK Airport via 154/155 st, 125 av, sutphin blvd, rockaway blvd) Link:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1k1eKk0QO3S67ANS_P-45OdpBGao

Explanation: JFK alternate, helps ease the Q6,q82sbs

20.(Q109 Local Ozone Pk Liberty Ave [weekdays only]/ Rockaway Pk B.116 Street {weekend only} or Jamaica Hillside-153 via 109 av/cross bay blvd [via lindenwood late nights only],Q109 LTD Rockaway Pk B.116 Street/Far Rockaway Mott Av Station or Jamaica Hillside-153 via 109 av/cross bay blvd) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=14bw-F_SAaXO_dvHLUJui7FLbwCw

Explanation: Limited service for the Q41,11,21. Rockaway Alternate for the  train in case of fast track.

 

This is all my routes that i have updated from the last post and here is the video of how I feel about all the members and moderators which i have respect for Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNuoJD_WVXw

 

If you got any questions or anything direct message me, or you can respond to the forum. 

I have made a mistake for the Q52sbs  (which the Q52 bus exists on woodhaven blvd) Myrtle Ave route the new route is the Q92sbs

1. (Q92 SBS Jamaica LIRR STA or Downtown brooklyn Jay street via myrtle av),Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1D6C3CgMgdjyVnmeIjkDV4ecRvpw

Explanation: limited service for the B54 and the Q55 buses,

 

4 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

You seem to be confused between too many routes and too many buses. 

 

Do you have a specific proposal for "streamlining" in a way that still serves everybody who needs to ride? 

not really. watch my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNuoJD_WVXw. even though its a lengthy video. it explains a reason why these buses are need and how each section of queens are changing. And if we add these buses, we have to change the run time of the current buses to accommodate these proposal buses. That's why we put these proposal buses in testing first, then we scrap them or modify them. 

 

13 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

1, 2,7, 18, 20) I was confused about the routing for a second, because of the "or". I believe you mean "to".

Anyways, I think that the Q55 needs more buses, potentially a short-turn between Woodhaven Boulevard and Glendale. 

As far as the B54, not too familiar with ridership patterns, but the issues I believe can be rectified with less bunching. That bus route bunches like there's no tomorrow.

Same thing with the Q36, Q56, and Q110.

 

4 & 5) route which uses the Van-Wyck. Yikes! IDK how I feel about that. I don't think many would also ditch the other buses to Jamaica, in order to ride a potentially slower route and not have a seat. 

 

8) The Q76 and Q77 probably only need help during school days amd school hours. Other times, buses are generally SRO at most. I don't see much of anyone riding a Francis Lewis Boulevard through service either. 

 

I'll get to the others eventually.

 

 

 

For 4/5 that why i made a zoom up for the Q68 local and the SBS version for Van Wyck Exy. Some people think that the SBS version is like the Q10A but the only difference between the 10a and the 68sbs is bidirectional and it would use the service road until Rockaway blvd then it would merge in the expwy. Unlike the 10A merge in the expwy after it turns from Queens Blvd and its one direction and its for rush hours only. I have understand your point of the van wyck being slow but when it gets to Jamaica ave. the 68 local and sbs that is going to kew gardens will make a right turn from van wyck to jamaica avenue and then Queens blvd to kew gardens. Because rush the van wyck is messed up between jamaica av and liberty ave, especially northbound to whitestone bridge regardless if it's on the service road or the expwy itself. In other words the 68 local will loop around from 133rd ave and go to kew gardens. in contrast to then 68sbs will go to jfk airport

For 8 a lot of people that lives in Laurelton and rosedale wants easier access to hollis, and other places that is on F. Lewis Blvd. without looping to  Jamaica Center or Jamaica terminal for the 76 or 77. and it would be the only bus that would be a direct connection to the 111 without using the 85 to rosedale or using the 77 to 145rd and walk down to 147 ave on the new springfield blvd. instead of the woody springfield lane which became springfield blvd after 222 or 220th street (i'm not too sure)

I have updated my post about the bus routes that i have previously mentioned. This is the updated version of each bus route that i have created and I will put the link of each bus on this post and also i have a video response for all members who responded to the post and berated the way that I write on here and i gave you a plethora of disclaimers, but you ignore my my disclaimers.

1. (Q52 SBS Jamaica LIRR STA or Downtown brooklyn Jay street via myrtle av),Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bq_STGKLj3BeLEcxzjmctqzbnyg 

Explanation: help ease the B54 and the Q55 buses,

2. (Q61 SBS Floral Park 257 Street or Broadway Jct Van sinderen Ave via Jamaica ave), Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=10zIEJfs6ZFqdUXClhsAVrMmM5l0

Explanation: help ease the Q36,56,110 Buses.

3. (Q62 LCL/LTD St. Albans Linden blvd (or Farmers Blvd/Brinkerhoff Ave) or East NY Pitkin Ave (or Cypress Hills Sheridan Ave) via Liberty ave) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ewM2T1Hl_-dKoZeK3c2yExnuc_c

Explanation: Easy Access to St Albans, Jamaica, Richmond Hill, Ozone Park, Cypress hills and the East New York areas. Semi restoration of the cypress Hill branch.

4. (Q68 South Jamaica 133 ave or Kew Gardens Union Tpke Sta via Van wyck exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G7dErf0M3KhPYAhY-MFCAKxPn4g

Explanation: Easier service from kew gardens briarwood and jamaica. easing the dependency on the q40 from 135av-143 st since the q40 dont loop around 140 street anymore

5. (Q68 sbs JFK airport or Kew Gardens Union Tpke Sta via van wyck exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uLjE6T8FQBJ_fyueoYS8gK6v18g

Explanation: Same as 4, but as well easier stops including to kew gardens via jamaica av/queens blvd.

6. (Q71 local/ LTD Jamaica 165 st term or Jfk Airport N. boundary rd via 157/ long streets) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WJbY1JBuye6H33pzNKVgDfqlwVI

Explanation: ease tension on the guy brewer Lines from baisley blvd/ long street to Jamaica/ 160 street as well of direct service to august martin high school as well as helping the q6 since there would be no q6ltd since q82 sbs will take the Q6 LTD place on sutphin blvd

7. (Q73 SBS Little Neck L. Neck Pky or Queens center mall via H.Harding exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WVg3xzseCL3KAOMwUrgKcoqy344

explanation: ease tension on the q88, q30.

8. (Q78 LTD Whitestone Parsons Blvd or Rosedale 148 ave via F. Lewis, q78 Local College pt 20 ave [via 14 av]/college pt 14 av [via 20 av] or Rosedale 148 ave via F. Lewis) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1z2v2tj8r9jg0R2-hv4McEJoag4g

explanation: ease the q76,q77. also exposing a route for the rosedale, cambria heights and college pt without multiple buses

9. (Q80 Bay Terrace 23 ave or Rosedale 147 av-225 street via springfield/bell blvds [via queensboro every other trip])Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WL2oR_G_f2qyA4H8oUKJWhs-CIs

explanation: ease the tension or the q77,27 also make a second option bus to bay terrace. easier to queensboro to bay terrace without transferring to flushing or depending on the q31.

10. (Q81 local Ozone Park libery ave or Far Rockaway Seagirt blvd via Rockaway blvd, central ave, Q81sbs Woodhaven 75 St Sta or Far Rockaway Seagirt Blvd via Rockaway blvd,Burnside ave, nassau exy, central ave) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CvgCqHeILyuMrel_8bcQ8bO7ODQ

explanation: woodhaven to far rockaway or ozone park to far rockaway service

11. (Q82 SBS Jamaica 165 St Term or Jfk Airport via sutphin/150 St) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XbEp-dYD4MY4t_KFGq26HXtxCOM 

explanation: replace the q6 LTD and quicker service to JFK (airtrain and Q3 alternate)

12. (Q87 St. Albans Farmers-Linden or JFK airport via Baisley blvd/150 Street weekday rush only) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GehNMkuKSratWaGgRMsi3w2W3Tc

explanation: local rush service for the Q82 SBS and help St. albans and Rochdale Village

13. (Q89 Jamaica 165 St Term or Ozone Park Liberty Ave via linden blvd [via aquaduct every other trips on weekend]), Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ep4xbdM2lu5o9ywsmkiWRKnSz_0

Explanation: easier subway transfer point as well as an alternative for the q112,41,109 to Jamaica

14. (Q90sbs ozone park Liberty ave or Cambria Heights 235 street via Linden bl [no aquaduct]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kDDlnbKpgJFRBLWy4lLPaz6_GoM

explanation: elimation of the Q4LTD service, limited service for the Q4,89. Needed a cambria heights-ozone park branch.

15. (Q91 Fort Totten or Jamaica 165 St Term via homelawn st/utopia pky) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tW-2kP9_cO8u51-ACoj4vSbrqlQ

Explanation: people wanted a fort totten/jamaica branch.

16. (Q93SBS Little Neck Glenwood street or LI City Queens Plz via Northern BL/ flushing [union st,roosevelt av, main st]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n3skql5XGSRNXVfrE9nhcAPLs14

Explanation: limted route for the q101,66,13,12

17. (Q94 LCL/SBS Jamaica LIRR Sta or Cobble Hill Columbia St (sbs to barclays ctr game day only) via atlantic av/94 av) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iRZbUw6B1mmIBOCwAbeJf6CRPXo

Explanation: limited route for the q24, and an easier service to barclays ctr

18.(Q95 LCL/LTD Greenpoint West St or Flushing Main Station via Roosevelt/greenpoint aves, Q95A-LTD greenpoint west st and citi field via roosevelt/greenpoint aves,Q95B-LTD Flushing Main St Sta via Roosevelt ave [q95A/B LTD pick up to game drop off from game]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NSYZWRe703-g3zFnbKlEs5PNumM

Explanation: limited/local route for the b24,Q32,48, Alternate service for  or  trains in case of fast track from 52nd street to Flushing Main Street

18. (Q107 Jamaica Hillsde-153 street or JFK airport Lefferts airtrain station via T.A. Way (south road)/107 Ave/lefferts Blvd) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LiXkftIrX-2sGdpRToHG52Zmdkk

explanation: Easier route for the Q10 LTD to Lefferts blvd Airtrain station at night after 9pm

19. (Q108LCL/LTD  Jamaica Hillsde-153 street or JFK Airport via 154/155 st, 125 av, sutphin blvd, rockaway blvd) Link:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1k1eKk0QO3S67ANS_P-45OdpBGao

Explanation: JFK alternate, helps ease the Q6,q82sbs

20.(Q109 Local Ozone Pk Liberty Ave [weekdays only]/ Rockaway Pk B.116 Street {weekend only} or Jamaica Hillside-153 via 109 av/cross bay blvd [via lindenwood late nights only],Q109 LTD Rockaway Pk B.116 Street/Far Rockaway Mott Av Station or Jamaica Hillside-153 via 109 av/cross bay blvd) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=14bw-F_SAaXO_dvHLUJui7FLbwCw

Explanation: Limited service for the Q41,11,21. Rockaway Alternate for the  train in case of fast track.

 

This is all my routes that i have updated from the last post and here is the video of how I feel about all the members and moderators which i have respect for Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNuoJD_WVXw

 

If you got any questions or anything direct message me, or you can respond to the forum. 

7 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

No Lol's, no Lmao's, I'm not trying to be funny at all with this.... The only thing that stood out in that post (post #5294) of route suggestions were 4 terms:
"LTD", "SBS", "JFK", and "Jamaica"

That's really all the critique I need for these ideas.

Well with all due respect @B35 via Church i never think you were being funny. But if you really think about this Jamaica is have changed dramatically since the PBL and what I have observed on Sutphin Blvd, Brewer Blvd, and Libery Ave needs more ridership. Especially Linden Blvd. But as I have learn about headways and run time. I really have to think the frequency for each bus route that i have created and also the reason why certain routes need SBS especially JFK is because of how many alternates that goes to LGA it should be reciprocal of how many buses go to JFK to avoid dependency on the Airtrain. But there are local routes that are part of my proposals. And i also gave an explanation toward each creative route. but i tried doing each route on google maps but i was lacking patience with using the tools on google maps. some LTDs should be SBS due to distance. and remember the biggest hubs in queens is Jamaica, Flushing, and Queens Plaza. Some i agree with you and @MysteriousBtrain but remember there is a method to the madness and as i reiterated it will upset at least 7 community boards for these proposals

2 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Not sure how this would work, but I don't see much ridership on this route.

The B54 needs a LTD somehow, but I don't think the Q55 needs it.

This route is too long. Maybe a LTD can work via Jamaica Av to a terminal in Jamaica if you can seperate the Little neck Q36 route.

Seems ok imo, but need to take a closer look at this later.

Sounds like a bit of the old Q10A. Don't think this would work.

Does Jamaica really need Service between Sutphin and Guy R Brewer?

Sounds good and could work

Don't see much ridership due to not connecting with the subway.

Same as above.

Not sure how Nassau would look at this. Also I don't think another service in that area is needed.

Not needed.

Good. Linden could use the service.

Sounds ok, but too much of a duplicate.

Sounds like another duplicate that won't get much ridership.

Too long.

I guess this sounds ok, but how many"special routes are in the city now?

Don't think this is needed because as you noted, it's a parallel.

Don't think this is needed.

Another duplicate not needed.

Sounds too long.

 

How about using Google maps to better show some of these ideas?

 

 

 

the Q51 i agree with you.

the Q52 im considering it to make it sbs. because since there is a bwy jct to jamaica and a williamsburg to jamaica there should be a richmond hill dwtwn bklyn unless we can extend the Q52 to Jamaica Lirr sta to the Q43,Q30/31.

Q61 should be and SBS cause a LTD is too long but im thinking because i think its an unecessary transfer to the q36 to the q110 to continue on Jamaica avenue

Q62 is like a semi restoration of the old B12 that goes to cypress hills and helps the q112/q83

some long routes that supposed to be LTD can be SBS. the Q68 SBS is only to JFK airport but the Q68 Local will terminate at van wyck expwy/ 133rd Ave but i understand the Q10a was a one way rush hour only, the Q107 will help ease the dependency on the Q10 LTD that goes to the Air train Station.

Sutphin and Guy brewer is the most heavy ridership so the Q71 will help ease tension on guy brewer and also help kids have direct ridership to August martin high school directly.

the Q73 should be an SBS not a limited.

q78 Helps ease congestion on the q20a/b, q76,q77 along francis lewis bl helps easier transfer points to the q111 and q5/85

q80 helps ease the q27, q77 along springfield bl via queens boro meets transfer point to the q111/114. but the bayside Lirr Stat terminus should change

q81 we found out that mangano is not being reelected and yes we have to discuss this with nassau but we need to make bay harbor mall noticable again.

q82 sbs is actually is need because no one know that sutphin blvd takes you directly to Jfk without the hassle of farmers blvd and boundary and its a faster than the q3 

q89 agree

q90sbs has to help the connection between ozone park and cambria hts

q91 has to be needed because we need a ft totten/jamaica serv. probably can be a ltd route but let see the ridership

q93 i should have said it runs like the q66 until 35 avenue then it goes straight to 31 st then queens plz N then use 21st street to u-turn on queens plz s.

q94 will work until they take off unnecesary traffic light on atlantic ave to barclays.

q106 R.I.P orion v's (the one use for the q44)

q107 helps ease tension of the q10 LTD cause most people get off the lefferts blvd airtrain station to take the airtrain to JFK to bypass the 5.50 airtrain fee unless they made that 5.50 too.

q108 is more to ease tension and overcrowding on sutphin blvd hence using 155th street. 

the Q109 is more like an alternate of the Q113/114 without having to go through brookville or rockaway just in case its backed up but it ease down the Q52/53. the reason why i said via lindenwood at night is because if the q21/41 not running at midnight it would run it but normally it supposed to bypass lindenwood. the Q109 Local (weekend/late Nights) and LTD is going to Rockaway pk but the Q109 LTD is far rockaway mott ave (LTD runs 2 setions) but on weekdays (local terminates at ozone park rockaway bl sta (q112 terminus)

 

i forgot a bus route

Q87 St. Albans farmers and linden and Jfk airport Via baisley blvd (weekday rush hours only)

 

(to St. albans) its act like the Q3 until it reaches 150 av/148th street then it acts like the q7 until rockaway blvd, make R at Rockaway blvd then make L at baisley blvd make L at farmers blvd then make a R at linden blvd and make R at 190th street then make r at 117th road then 117 rd becomes baisley blvd and terminates there 

(to Jfk airport) opposite direction from the st. albans route

I have been living in Jamaica for over 20 years and i had some ideas when i was 7 years old until now so i just need anybody opinion on this i know some is outdated and some is parallel to other buses but i need some headway ideas, or cut routes which arent necessary.

(L is left, R is right)

1. Q51 Jamaica 165 st st term (hillside-168th street during morning rush hours)/jfk airport n.boundary rd via 157/155sts (wkday only)

(to boundary rd): coming out of 165 bus term or (rush hours make L on hillside then make L on merrick), make R at Jamaica Ave, Make L at Brewer Blvd, Make R at T.A way (south rd), Make L at 157 St, make R at foch blvd, make L at 155 Street, 155 street becomes 125 Ave, make L at Sutphin Blvd, make L at Rockaway Blvd, after that its runs identical to the q6 going to boundary road.

(to 165 st term) opposite from the boundary rd directions except after R at south road from 157 st, make L to 160th street, make R to jamaica ave, Make L at 168th street (rush hours keep straight to hillside by the q17 bus stop or a few feet from it to make a left on hillside), make L on 89th Ave, make L on merrick blvd then go in terminal.

(frequency 20 mins)

2. Q52Ltd or Q52SBS richmond hill jamaica ave/ dwtwn bklyn via myrtle av

(basically a limited version of the Q55 and the B54.)

3. Q61ltd or Q61SBS floral park 257 st/bway jct vn sndrn av via jamaica ave

(basically an ltd version (highly should make this SBS) of the q36,q110,q56

4. q62 local/ltd st. albans linden blvd (ltd only/local on weekends) or farmers blvd (local on weekdays only)/ cypress hills sheridan ave(local only) or east new york m. gaston bl& pitkin ave (ltd only local) via liberty av (making stops to jam. ctr and jam lirr sta/airtrain),

(to east ny/cypress hills) starting from farmers and linden straight on farmers to murdock and it acts like q83 until 153rd street and archer ave, straight archer ave, make L at sutphin blvd, keep R to 146th street, make R at liberty and it would act like the Q112 until liberty and rockaway. keep R at rockaway then make R at 94th street and make R at liberty Ave,  (Cypress hill bound only then make L at grant Avenue, then R at Pitkin ave , then r at conduit blvd, then R at sheridan Ave [ not too sure to make the part terminus at grant Avenue station or keep it on sheridan and liberty avenues]) make L at Mother Gaston Blvd, Make L at pitkin av for east ny. 

 

(to st. albans) (east ny only make L to Powell St from pitkin, make R at liberty), (cypress hills only make R on liberty from sheridan), make L at 93rd st, then make R at rockaway, keep L at Liberty av, and it acts like the 112 until waltham street it would act like the q9 on sutphin when it hits archer, make R at archer avenue, then it acts like the q83 (farmer blvd bound u-turn from liberty,farmers, and then brinkerhoff ave), after murdock it would act like the q3 until linden, make L at linden (last stop) then make make r at 190 st, make r at 117th rd, make r at farmers blvd (begining stop)

 

5. q68 lcl/sbs jfk airport (sbs only) or s.jamaica 133 ave (local only)/ kew gardens union tpke sta via van wyck expwy,

(to jfk/133rd ave) make R at 80th rd, make R at queens blvd and keep R to van wyck expwy service rd, (local make L at 133rd ave and make L on the NB service rd last stop),[sbs] merge in the van wyck expy exit out in federal circle and it acts like the q10

 

(to kew Gardens) (sbs acts like the q10 until stop 17 to merge on the van wyck expwy and keep right to the exit 2 Rockaway blvd exit and continue on service road), make r at jamaica avenue and make L on queens blvd, make L at 83rd ave (hoover Av), make R to Kew gdns rd to last stop.

6. q71 jamaica 165 st term/ jfk n.boundry road via 157/ long sts,

(to boundary rd): coming out of 165 bus term make R at Jamaica Ave, Make L at Brewer Blvd, Make R at T.A way (south rd), Make L at 157 St,157 st becomes long street, make R at Baisley blvd, make L at  Rockaway Blvd, after that its runs identical to the q6 going to boundary road.

 

(to 165 st term) opposite from the boundary rd directions except after R at south road from 157 st, make L to 160th street, make R to jamaica ave, Make L at 168th street, make L on 89th Ave, make L on merrick blvd then go in terminal.

 

7. q73ltd or q73sbs little neck l.neck pky/ queens ctr mall via h. harding expwy

basically an Ltd version of Q88, Q30 to little neck

 

8. q78 local/ltd rosedale 148 ave to college pt 20 ( via 14 av/138 st wkdays) or 14 avs (via 20 av/138 st all times) via f. lewis,

(to college pt) acts like the Q111 then acts like X63 until sunrise/s.conduit ave, keep straight on f. lewis bl, make R at F. lewis bl (230 Pl),make L at F.lewis Bl (121 Av) Keep R to F. lewis bl then after springfield bl its acts like the q77 until hillside it acts like the q76 until parsons blvd (whitestone) ( via 14th ave, straight on 14 ave make L at 132nd st and make L at 20 ave part terminus) (via 20th ave make L at parsons, make r at 20th ave make r at 132nd (full terminus)

 

(to rosedale) opposite from the college pt segment except (via 20th av from rosedale now via 14 av to rosedale keep on 14th ave then make r at f lewis) (via 14 av from rosedale now via 20 av make L at parsons then make R at 14th ave then make r at f lewis

 

9. q80 bayside lirr sta/ rosedale 225 st-147 ave via springield blvd (via queensboro wkdays),

(to bayside) make R on 147th Ave then Make R on springfield bl then it act like the q77 until 120th ave then it act like the q27 until after queensboro, then make L at northern bl then make R at Bell Blvd than make a L at 41 av last stop

(to rosedale) opposite from the bayside segment except make R at 213 St then R at 39th ave then R at bell bl, near rosedale make L at S.conduit from springfield then make R at 225 St then last stop is 147th ave.

10. q81 lcl/sbs Far rockaway seagirt blvd/ woodhaven 75 st sta via rockaway bl/ central av (burnside ave and nassau expwy sbs only). 

(to Far Rock) make R to 75th street, then make L at rockaway blvd, then after liberty ave, it acts like a q7 until 150 street then it acts like a q6 unti farmers blvd then nonstop to five towns when it acts like the q114 until burnside ave (sbs makes R at burnside, then L at Nassau expwy),[lcl] Then R to central avenue then it acts like the n31/n32 to seagirt blvd)

 

(to woodhaven) opposite from the far rock segment except for rockawy tpke cross burnside until it turns on central ave when it acts like the n31/n32 to seagirt but near woodhaven keep R to elderts Ln from rockaway blvd and make R at Jamaica Ave (last terminus)

11. q82 sbs jamaica 165 St term/ Jfk Airport via sutphin bl/150 st,

basically from jamaica term to rockaway/sutphin it acts like q6 then after it becomes 150 street it acts like the q7 until 150av/148 st until it acts like the q3

12. q89 jamaica 165 st term to ozone pk liberty ave via merrick bl/ linden blvd (make stop in aquaduct) 

it acts like the old q9a except no turns on lincoln street, straight on linden to rockaway blvd keep right then it go in aquaduct then left on rockaway to liberty (last stop) (to Jam term) then make R on liberty then make R at 99th Street, then Make L at rockaway bl 

 

13. q90 sbs ozone pk liberty ave or ozone pk 111 st (rush hours only)/ cambria heights 235 st via linden blvd (no aquaduct on rush hours)

it basically acts like the q41 until 109 then keep straight to linden, the proposed q89, and the current q4

 

14. q91 jamaica 165 st term/ft totten via utopia pky

it basically act like q31 until rocky hill road, then straight to francis lewis then it act like a q16 to fort totten. (Jam term. bound) make r on 89 ave from 169th st, then L at merrick,  (to Ft totten) then L at jamaica ave then L at 170th street

 

15. q93 sbs little neck glenwood st/ li city queens plz via northern bl/flushing(union st, roosevlt,main st),

it would act like the q66 to flushing then R on main st, then L at roosevelt Av, then L to union st, then R to northern blvd, it acts like the q13 to bell bl then it acts like the q12 (lic opposite direction from Little neck)

16. q94 local/sbs Jamaica lirr sta to cobble hill columbia street via 94/atlantic aves makes stops to bway jct (barclays ctr during game days/event hours sbs only).

(to cobble hill) make R at 94th ave, it acts like the q41 until 127th street then it acts like the q24 until fulton st, make L at rockaway ave, then make R at atlantic ave until washighton ave then it acts like the b45 until to flatbush till it acts like the b63. (barclay ctr bound make L at nevins st, then L at dean street, then L at 3rd ave, then R at atlantic ave) 

(to jamaica Lirr sta) opposite from the cobble hill directions except (make L at van wyck exp, then R at archer, then R at sutphin near airtrain sta (last stop)

 

17. q106 jamaica hillsde 153/cambria hts 235 st (weekends only) or floral pk 268 st via 154/155 sts & linden blvd

(highly doubt this route will exist due to the parallel but i would put up the directions i wont do floral pk because if we had the original orion V's it would possibly go in cross island Pkwy then make r at hillside [but all the orions v is gone and plus there is a height limit for the cross island pkwy])

(to Cambria heights) it would act like the Q83 until guy brewer then it acts like the q112 until 154th street, make L at 154th street then make L at 108 ave then R at 154 st, then make L at 109 Av, then make R at 155th Street then make L to linden blvd 

(to hillside-153) it would act like the q4 until merrick then straight on linden, make R at 155th street then Make R at T.A way, then make L at 160 street, then Make L at archer ave then it would act like the q83 to last stop

 

18. q107 jamaica hillsde 153/ jfk airport lefferts blvd airtain sta via t. airmen way (south road),107 ave, lefferts blvd

(to lefferts air train) it would act like the Q83 until guy brewer then it acts like the q112 until waltham street then Keep straight on T.A. way then make L at Remington Street, then make R at Lakewood Ave, lakewood ave becomes 109 ave, then make R at 135 st, then make L at 107 ave then make L at lefferts blvd then it runs like the q10 LTD to lefferts airtrain sta.

(to hilside-153) runs opposite of the lefferts airtrain bound except for make R at van wyck expy from 107 ave, then L at 109th ave and normal until make L at 160 street from T.A. way, then make L on archer then it acts like the q83

19. q108 lcl/ltd jamaica hillsde 153/ jfk airport via 154,155 sts/125 ave,rock blvd,n.boundary rd

(to Jfk airport) make R at Parsons, make L at archer, make R at brewer then it acts like the q112 until 154 st, make L at 154th street then make L at 108 ave then R at 154 st, then make L at 109 Av, then make R at 155th Street,  155 street becomes 125 Ave, make L at Sutphin Blvd, make L at Rockaway Blvd, after that its runs identical to the q6 until Farmers then make R at farmers then it would act like the Q3 to last stop

(to hillside-153) opposite direction from the jfk bound except make R at 155th street then Make R at T.A way, then make L at 160 street, then Make L at archer ave then it would act like the q83 to last stop

20. q109 lcl/ltd jamaica hillside 153/ far rock mott av(ltd only) or rockaway pk b-116 st (local/ltd only) or ozone park liberty ave (local rush hours only)via 109 ave/cross bay blvd, via lindenwood (overnights only) via rockaway fwy/cornaga av beach 21/22nd st (far rock ltd only))

(to the rockaways) it would act like the q111 until T.A. way, make R at t.a way then it acts like q112 until sutphin then make L at sutphin then it act like the q6 until 109 ave, make R at 109 ave then make L at lakewood ave, lakewood becomes 109 until 127 st, then it acts like the q41 until woddhaven/crossbay blvd then make R at 94th street then it acts like the q52/53 (via lindenwood q21/41 overnights only) until cross bay bridge, then (rockaway pk bound acts like the q53 until last stop), (mott av bound acts like the q52 until B.69th street then it would run on Rockaway freeway, make R at cornaga ave, make L at beach 21 street, make L at mott ave, make L at beach 22 street last stop. 

(to hillside 153) opposite direction from the rockaways except for (mott ave bound) make R at cornaga av from beach 22nd, then make L at rockaway fwy. also in jamaica keep right to 109 ave from lakewood ave then make r at inwood street, makes L at ferndale ave, makes L at sutphin (ltd makes right at 143rd street then make L at glassboro ave then L at sutphin) keep R to 150 st from sutphin then Make R at T.A way, then make L at 160 street, then Make L at archer ave then it would act like the q83 to last stop

 

but i never knew about headways and about runtime and also affecting taxpayers money, but we need some help reducing the crowding and also promoting these idea and future bus routes that people never knew about.

 

P.S: T.A. Way is tuskegee airmen way (south road) i just feel weird not calling it south road. when i use the term "acts" i meant it runs on the line of the current or former buses. and yes most of my routings will upset most of the community boards and i understand about the fuel emissions (if someone is environmental friendly)