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  1. Part Suspended Extremely limited service in Queens. Trains are only stopping at Queensboro Plaza and Astoria Blvd. Take buses or instead. What's Happening? We're addressing a signal problem at Astoria-Ditmars Blvd. Detailed Service Changes Most trains are not running to/from Queens, and most northbound trains will end at Times Sq-42 St, 57 St-7 Av, or at 96 St on the . The few trains that do run in Queens are only stopping at Queensboro Plaza and Astoria Blvd (running express between those stations). There is no service at 39 Av-Dutch Kills, 36 Av, Broadway, 30 Av or Astoria-Ditmars Blvd. Alternatives For service in Astoria, take nearby Q69, Q100-LTD, or Q101 buses on nearby streets. For service between Astoria and Manhattan, take M60-SBS buses between Astoria Blvd and subway stations on 125th St in Manhattan. For service between Long Island City and Manhattan, take trains at Queensboro Plaza. Posted: 03/18/2024 04:20 PM
  2. Given that the only route change that really needs to be implemented in tandem with the Queens routes (if it ends up being on the final plan) is the B62, I think it would make sense to not overwhelm themselves by changing all those Brooklyn routes at the same time. The Queens routes changes in conjunction with the proposed Brooklyn interborough routes could wait as it wouldn't make much of an impact with the rest of the network if they were left as is for the time being.
  3. You do have a point when it comes to people who are going to and from the parade only. However, there will be a group of people who will head early and perhaps eat breakfast or do something else before heading to the parade. Many will also head out to other places in Manhattan after heading to the parade. They might go to a bar, a restaurant, or do some other activity. In either one of those cases, it happens to the case most of those places tend to be closer to the west side than the east side. That is in large part you saw the overwhelming amount of service going to/from Penn Station. The first extra trains got into Manhattan around 9:30 AM, and the last few final trains departed Manhattan past 7 PM. The parade started at 11 AM, for reference. Perhaps they could have had some more of the extra service in the AM go to Grand Central, but it's not necessarily done arbitrarily.
  4. https://www.cttransit.com/services/service-changes Most of the service changes will be centered in Central CT (New Britain, Bristol, Meriden) although there will be some changes in the Stamford area as well. The route 41 cuts along with some other parts of the service expansion in Meriden were already implemented in November. New Routes and Major Route Changes 121, 128, 144 - Serves new Village Square Park & Ride 153 - Service in West Hartford will be rerouted via Albany Ave & Bloomfield Ave. Service on Simsbury Road and N. Main Street north of Albany Ave is discontinued 349 - New route between Springdale and Cove Island Park via Hope Street and Courland Avenue 501 - Relegated to a New Britain city route between Downtown and Kensington Hospital, with some weekday service to CCARC. Service south of CCARC discontinued, replaced by 511/561 511 - New route between New Britain and Downtown Meriden (transfer to 561 for Meriden Mall and for the Medical Center) 512 - Service will operate one pattern as a New Britain to Newington CTDOT route daily (service to Cromwell served by 513). 512B notation will be discontinued, 512C relabeled 513. 513 - New route number for 512C, with service expanded to operate 7 days to replace 512 service 532 - New route between Plainville Center and Southington Stop & Shop via Queen Street Other neighborhood-level route changes will occur on the following routes: 334, 503, 505 Service frequency improvements will occur on the following routes: 503, 505, 506, 507, 512, 541, 543 Other schedule changes will occur on the following routes: 940
  5. 1] Interesting, because I seemed to have the opposite issue (the hourly routes were the easier ones to rank than the 30-minute routes). With the exception of the 10, most of the hourly routes were similar to the route they replaced in many ways. Way I saw it was that I had some sort of baseline there to work with, and then the differences in routing and ridership potential (or losses) with respect to mileage was based up on my interpretation and predictions. The 30-minute routes were the opposite in many cases, with many different segments meshed together. Out of those routes the 1 was the easiest to rank for quite obvious reasons, the 51 was the most difficult to rank followed by the 2. However that goes back to how we ended up ranking said routes (lean towards ridership vs. mileage). 2] I still have yet to ride out the new SCT network, don't know when that will happen (I just don't have the enthusiasm to dedicate a whole day for SCT like I may have had in the past, even compared to a year - shit's cratered drastically). However I tend to agree with that sentiment, I would say the same thing. Time will tell but I think ridership on the 7 will hold on given that the S41 was on the higher end of ridership and overall efficiency. That and it covers part of the old S45 and the Brentwood-Bay Shore rider base. It's unfortunate to hear that about the S54, I guess what also doesn't help the 6 is that even in that part of the county its duplicated quite a bit with the H40. Not the same headways but in the case of the new 6 every rider counts. Part of the issue too, way I see is that Walt Whitman Mall is still being used as a major hub in that area, when it's just no longer the same anymore like it might have been in the past. Same situation with Sunrise Mall further down, everything is now moving towards Amityville LIRR even if its relatively slow (you still got the n19, n71 weekdays and n80 still terminating there, who know if that changes). However what complicates things further north a bit is HART. It was a mistake to not include those routes given how many duplicate the 30 minute routes on portions of their routes. Would have also liked to see more of a hub around Huntington Station if there was any part within the town that would make sense. The 51 is basically in a similar category with the other three routes previously mentioned (2, 6, and 7) because it's a combination of previously lightly used, moderate, and extremely well used segments (not proportional at all). If anything it skews more towards moderate (if I'm being charitable) and lightly used segments, with very little change overall. So yeah I think we're on the same page regarding future Ronkonkoma development more or less. I would have no issue being wrong about usage not being significantly improved with Station Yards, but I am under no illusion given that we're talking about the suburbs here. With the 4 I guess it depends mainly how the two halves (in this case I'm considering Brentwood LIRR as the midpoint) compare to the 1. Like I previously mentioned, I can see the 4 getting better loads than the 1 west of Brentwood. The 4 between Amityville and Brentwood is roughly around a mile shorter than the 1 (~14 vs. ~15 miles) , so if you get around 93% of the ridership the 1 gets that would basically put you on par with the 1. Brentwood to Smith Haven is about 2/3s of the the existing route 1 (10 vs. 15 miles), so if you get 66% of what the 1 gets overall then that puts you on par. Given those numbers, I don't think it's impossible for the 4 to potentially beat out the 1. Even the weaker eastern segment, is not a "weak" segment way I see it. In sheer overall ridership yeah the 4 would have to do significantly better than the 1 because of the longer routes. However if you see view it the way that I outlined it above, it's not as far-fetched as it may sound. The 4 is also one of very few routes which I can see decent gains in ridership, which I think would put in a position where it can rival the 1. However in terms of average ridership per mile, the 4 and the 1 will likely be close, which is what I'm referring to when I say it's not "running laps ahead" of the 1. Regarding the 5 and 58, yeah I get that and all. Just explaining my view on that situation as it relates to impacting overall ridership on the 4.
  6. Necessary track repairs due to an earlier incident is requiring a last minute service change on the and for tonight: Planned - Reroute runs via the ‌(R) in both directions between ‌Queens Plaza‌ and ‌34 St-Herald Sq, the last stop Feb 29 - Mar 1, Thu 11:45 PM to Fri 5:00 AM No service at Court Sq-23 St, Lexington Av/53 St, 5 Av/53 St, 7 Av, 50 St, 34 St, 23 St, 14 St, W 4 St, Spring St, Canal St and World Trade Center. Note: skips the 49 St station in both directions. Travel Alternatives: For Court Sq-23 St, take the or Jamaica-bound . For Lexington Av/53 St and 5 Av/53 St, take a Jamaica-bound or use the nearby 51 St station. For 7 Av, take the , use the nearby 57 St-7 Av station or the local at 50 St. For 50 St, 34 St-Penn Station, 23 St and 14 St, take the or use nearby stations. For W 4 St-Wash Sq, take the or Jamaica-bound . For Spring St, Canal St and World Trade Center (Chambers St), take a downtown . Note: For 42 St/Port Authority, trains stop at the Times Sq-42 St platform. Key transfer stations: Roosevelt Av-74 St Accessbility | Queens Plaza Accessbility | Lexington Av/59 St 42 St Connection - Port Authority/Times Sq/Bryant Park (A‌) (E‌) and Jamaica-bound 34 St-Herald Sq Accessbility | and Jamaica-bound W 4 St-Wash Sq Accessbility | and Jamaica-bound Note: No Coney Island-bound service in Manhattan during this time. What's happening? Urgent track repairs Accessbility This service change affects one or more ADA accessible stations and these travel alternatives may not be fully accessible. Please contact 511 to plan your trip. Posted: 02/29/2024 05:38 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Planned - Reroute No Coney Island-bound service in Manhattan Feb 29 - Mar 1, Thu 11:45 PM to Fri 5:00 AM Coney Island-bound runs via the to Queens Plaza and via the (G) from Court Sq, Queens to Bergen St, Brooklyn, resuming service to Coney Island. Jamaica-bound (F) continues to run from Brooklyn to 47-50 Sts, then via the (E) from 5 Av/53 St to Roosevelt Av, resuming service to Jamaica. (E) runs via the (R) in both directions between Queens Plaza and 34 St-Herald Sq, the last stop. (Skipping 49 St in both directions) Downtown (D) makes local stops at 14 St and 23 St. Shuttle Bus Free Q94 shuttle buses run between Roosevelt Island and Queens Plaza, stopping at, 21 St-Queensbridge and Queensboro Plaza (N) . Travel alternatives: For service from Queens to Manhattan, take the or (N) . For service from Manhattan to Brooklyn, take the (Q) . Station alternatives: For 21 St-Queensbridge and Roosevelt Island, take the Q94 shuttle bus. For Lexington Av/63 St, take the (Q) . For 57 St, use the nearby 57 St-7 Av (Q) (R) station. For 47-50 Sts, 42 St-Bryant Pk, 34 St-Herald Sq, W 4 St, and B'way-Lafayette St, take a or uptown (F) . For 23 St, take a downtown or uptown . For 14 St, take a downtown (D) , uptown (F) or (L) (6 Av). For 2 Av and East Broadway, take a Jamaica-bound (F) or use nearby Grand St or B'way-Lafayette St (D) stations. For Delancey St-Essex St, take the , Jamaica-bound or use nearby Grand St (D) . For Jay St-MetroTech, take the or (N) . Queens key transfer stations: Roosevelt Av/74 St Accessbility | (F) Queens Plaza Accessbility | (E) (F) and Q94 Queensboro Plaza (7) (N) and Q94 Manhattan key transfer stations: 42 St Connection - Port Authority/Times Sq/Bryant Park (A‌) (E‌) (N) (Q) and Jamaica-bound (F) 34 St-Herald Sq Accessbility | (N) (Q) and Jamaica-bound (F) 14 St-Union Sq Accessbility | (L) (N) (Q) W 4 St-Wash Sq Accessbility | (A) (D) and Jamaica-bound (F) Fulton St Accessbility |(J) and Brooklyn-bound (A) Brooklyn key transfer stations: Metropolitan Av/Lorimer St (L) and Coney Island-bound (F) Hoyt-Schermerhorn Sts (A) and Coney Island-bound (F) 4 Av-9 St (F) (N) What's happening? Urgent track repairs Accessbility This service change affects one or more ADA accessible stations and these travel alternatives may not be fully accessible. Please contact 511 to plan your trip. Posted: 02/29/2024 05:38 PM
  7. Expect "major reroute" in and service tonight as a result of this. Details have been posted. Something happened in the 53rd Street Tunnel requiring immediate attention: Delays trains are running with severe delays in both directions. What's Happening? We completed urgent track maintenance in the tunnel between Manhattan and Queens. We are now conducting urgent track maintenance near Queens Plaza, which requires southbound trains to move more slowly in that area. Our crews will begin heavy repair work near Queens Plaza during the overnight hours tonight, which will require major reroutes to service. More details for these service changes can be found at mta.info/alerts While we work to get trains back on schedule: Take trains between Manhattan and Queens. Take trains for local service along 8th Ave. Take trains for local service along 6th Ave. LIRR is cross-honoring MetroCard holders and OMNY users between Penn Station/Grand Central Madison and Jamaica (including Woodside, Kew Gardens and Forest Hills). Posted: 02/29/2024 05:55 PM
  8. For me I tried to consider both route mileage and ridership with frequency as much as possible. It made it a little hard at times given that I think that some routes are more or less in the same general area (which ended up happening a bit more than expected). I suppose the ranking comes out more towards ridership since most of those tie-breaking decisions on my end ultimately came down to route potential, but that's how I approached it. Route 2 was one of the tougher ones to rank, because between it, the 6, 7 and 51 I figured they will eventually be around the same (for different reasons). However I didn't see either 2 or 6 doing worse than the 51 overall. What bumped up the 6 was the connection at Central lslip LIRR to other routes and the Ronkonkoma, and it being an airport connection. I think it will take more time for the Airport portion to pick up but I can see it eventually being used decently. However, with the 2 the main thing was that given that the route now provides connections to NICE Bus, you might eventually see more ridership on the route. Especially since it's absolute garbage to get down to the Babylon Branch if you're not near it on public transit. Also while the shift of riders from the former S42 and S20 to Route 2 plus any new riders who start/end their trips west of Babylon due to the new frequencies/coverage will be relatively low, collectively they'll add enough to where I believe it gives the 2 the edge over the 6. While the 51 is a route with some particularly strong segments and more streamlined service than the previous network, I think the existing section between Smith Haven and Patchogue drags it down considerably. Now IDK what the ongoing redevelopment around Ronkonkoma LIRR will do going forward, but I suppose it'll boost it up a bit. I also suppose the direct connection from Stony Brook to the Ronkonkoma Branch could be somewhat enticing for some in the long run (instead of only having the PJ Branch as a suitable option). However the LIRR's dicking around of service post-ESA and service patterns (to keep it short, SMFH) will probably hurt those numbers. Basically, I see whatever the 51 currently has as being more or less the case further down the line, with maybe a small bump. To answer your question regarding Route 4, even though I have the 4 ahead of the 1 it's not a situation where it's running laps ahead. That's also why I say in my rankings post that I could see the 4 beating out the 1. Overall I would put them around the same but the 4 has the advantage way I see it. Potential gains on the Amityville-Brentwood section in particular is what led to my ranking. With Amityville, Wyandanch, Deer Park and Brentwood now having more frequent and later service (especially on weekends - those last S33 buses from Sunrise during the 4-5 PM hours were early but the worst part was that they didn't even travel the full route!), it will definitely be used. On top of that, I can see loads in that section beating out what you typically see on the 1. That's not to say the part eastern of Brentwood wouldn't do well either, but it would not be to the same degree as points west. That's where it would lower the overall efficiency of the entire 4 (and it's a decent chunk of the route as well). I'm aware that the 58 and 5 would chip in to Smith Haven ridership, however I don't see it being too much of an issue. For starters, I don't see the 5 in particular taking too much away from the 4 because of its indirect route. Maybe if they live near the 5 perhaps, but the 4 beats it out even with the Central Islip stopover. The 58 perhaps is more competitive with the 4, so maybe that can do some numbers, however I do not see it taking too much away either. Plus any ridership gains on that section west of Brentwood due to more frequent service and better connectivity with points west of Brentwood, would likely make up the losses in mall ridership to the 58.
  9. Part Suspended train service is severely disrupted in both directions. Consider using instead. What's Happening? Emergency teams are responding to someone who was struck by a train near High St. Service Changes: Southbound trains are running via line from W 4 St-Wash Sq to 2 Av, where they will end. Northbound trains are running via from 2 Av to 5 Av/53 St. There is no trains between Manhattan and Brooklyn. The last stop on some northbound trains in Brooklyn will be Broadway Jct. trains are running via the line between Bergen St and Court Sq in both directions. Listen for train crew announcements to hear how your train will run. Travel alternatives: For service along 8 Av, consider using trains making nearby stops. For service between Manhattan and Brooklyn, use Expect delays in train service in both directions. Posted: 02/19/2024 10:14 AM
  10. 1. Yeah, sounds about right honestly. I was looking for something to describe those proposals because they always came up so lopsided against Grand Ave service but wanted to give the benefit of the doubt. 2. I think it ends up being more or less a wash. The difference in existing Q58 LTD and Q38 runtimes between Fresh Pond/Metropolitan and 108th Street (HHE on the Q58, 63rd Road on the Q38) are not very large, plus both run behind schedule by about a similar margin. For the Q98, even though Queens Blvd can lags the service roads on Horace Harding tend to move well even during rush hours. So that helps bring it closer to about the same. Outside of maneuvering through those narrow streets in Middle Village, Metropolitan Avenue and 63rd Drive slow the Q38 slow down. Metropolitan isn't too bad outside of rush hours but 63rd Drive north of the LIRR tracks tends to be slow during the day. Too much traffic (double parking, trucks and whatnot) plus the amount of lights and dwell times in that area run the time up.
  11. Oops Part Suspended There is no service between Manhattan and Queens. Northbound trains are rerouted from DeKalb Av to Queens Plaza. What's Happening? We're investigating why a train's brakes activated near Queensboro Plaza. Service Changes: Northbound trains are running on the line from DeKalb Av to W 4 St-Wash Sq, then via the line to Queens Plaza. trains are running on the line between 57 St-7 Av and 96 St. There is limited service running between Queensboro Plaza and Astoria-Ditmars Blvd. Expect delays in service. Alternatives: For service between Manhattan and Queens, consider nearby trains. Transfer at Times Sq-42 St or Queensboro Plaza for service. Transfer at 34 St-Herald Sq for an or rerouted train. For service in Astoria, take nearby Q69, Q100 and Q101 buses. Posted: 02/12/2024 04:58 PM
  12. Hard no with ditching the Q98 to extend the Q38. That's a Q38 problem and should be addressed on its own merits. The Q98 should not have to be sacrificed due to the shortcomings of another route. The problems I have with many of these types of proposals when they come up (whether it's via 63rd Drive/Penelope, via Eliot Ave or whatnot) are that they tend to significantly underestimate Grand Avenue ridership/ridership patterns, and overestimate Flushing-Ridgewood ridership. Sure the Flushing-Ridgewood ridership may be more interchangeable, issue is that it is not an overwhelming majority (let alone majority) of riders on the existing Q58 route. Grand Avenue is a major corridor and the different rider bases (Ridgewood, subway feeder, Corona , Flushing) all collectively make up a large chunk of Q58 ridership. That is followed by the usage in Corona. Seems like misplaced priorities to focus on what to do with a relatively minor group of riders (who would already see an improvement with the Q98). Plus with the way the Q38 goes through Middle Village, I don't think you would be saving that much time honestly. All you need is one parked car, delivery truck or whatnot and then any time savings goes out the window. The Q98 is an okay route in terms of making trips faster and providing necessary levels where demand is located. Penelope or Eliot Ave just don't come close to those levels, with Penelope being the lowest of the three. The real question is what other areas are residents in Middle Village and Rego Park seeking along the proposed Q38 route? For starters north/east of Queens Blvd I would not keep as part of the Q38, easily the weakest part of the route. Much of nobody is seeking the area west of Queens Blvd given its primarily residential. I think the 62nd Drive/63rd Road segment should be part of the Q59 since it would connect it to more commercial areas of interest / ridership generators in Queens. Having the Q38 running between Queens Blvd & Fresh Pond Road though would make it lightly used given that it's acting as a subway feeder for the most part. We've had discussions on what to do with the route, I think B35's proposal to send the thing to Williamsburg isn't a bad one honestly, I could also see potentially sending it through Bushwick potentially working as well (ultimately depends on the route). However I wouldn't bring the Q98 into this one.
  13. Part Suspended trains are severely disrupted in both directions while NYPD responds to an unauthorized person on the tracks between Bergen St and Jay St Service Changes: There is no service between Bedford-Nostrand Avs and Church Av. Church Av-bound trains will end at Bedford-Nostrand Avs. There is no service between 2 Av and 4 Av-9 St. Some trains are running via the line between Coney Island-Stillwell Av and W 4 St-Wash Sq. Some southbound trains will end at 2 Av. Northbound trains will end at Church Av or 4 Av-9 St. Northbound trains will end at Broadway Junction. Southbound trains will end at Chambers St. Expect delays in service while they share tracks with rerouted trains. See a station agent for a courtesy pass to continue on your trip. Listen for announcements to hear how your train will run. Travel Alternatives: Consider taking a or train for service between Manhattan and Brooklyn. For service between Broadway Junction and High St, take a B25 bus. For service between Williamsburg and Manhattan, take the B39 bus. Posted: 02/09/2024 06:15 PM
  14. I'm caught up in this mess. Also the gets to be included. Here we go.... Local to Express trains have major delays in both directions. Southbound EF trains are running local from Forest Hills-71 Av to Queens Plaza. While emergency teams are assisting someone who was struck by a train at Queens Plaza. Some northbound trains are running on the line from 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal to 168 St. Some northbound trains are terminating at 57 St. Some northbound trains are running on the line from 57 St-7 Av to 96 St. Some northbound trains are terminating at Times Sq-42 St and 57 St-7 Av. Posted: 02/02/2024 08:20 AM Some Reroutes There is limited service between Delancey St-Essex St and 57 St in both directions. Some 57 St-bound trains are running on the J line from Delancey St-Essex St to Chambers St, the last stop. Emergency teams are responding to a person who was struck by a train in Queens. Some trains are ending at 57 St, so we are rerouting trains to avoid congestion at that station. Posted: 02/02/2024 08:07 AM
  15. Sunday schedule does exist on those routes, and is not being changed.
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