Krocyoin

The QM3 would make a total of 27 stops bi-directional (13 in Manhattan, and 14 in Queens). While the QM33 would make a total of 21 stops bi-directional (7 in Manhattan, and 14 in Queens).

This is my new proposal, after looking at feedback, I now have the QM3 running via FDR Drive, and I added a new route known as the QM33, which would run between Hudson Square and Little Neck, Via Houston Street and Northern Boulevard.

Hmm okay, I'm currently working on a new proposal.

Subway crime has been going back up again, and the X51 serves a community of Asians, and we had a uprising of anti-Asian hate crime especially in subway stations so the X51 could do well if it did return, hell it had 10 trips to Manhattan in the AM and 8 trips to Queens in the PM before it got eliminated, also the X51 had better ridership it's final year of service than some current express bus routes.

Three hours???? It makes way less stops than the average Queens-Manhattan express bus route. According to google maps it's 1 hour, 23 Minutes by car, and buses make stops, so give or take, it'd be 2 hours to complete.

I made this based off someone's suggestion.

I made a route map of your proposal of having the QM3 serve Downtown Manhattan, but unlike all Downtown Manhattan Queens Express bus routes which travel down FDR Drive, the QM3 will travel down 34th Street, making 5 stops, then it'll travel non-stop along West Street, in this proposal, the QM3 has 29 stops bi-directional, 14 stops in Manhattan, and 15 stops in Queens. QM3 would now used the Long Island Expressway bi-directional and not Westbound only as it currently does, speeding up trips for riders going towards Little Neck. Finally, the QM3 will travel through Van Wyck Expressway instead of the Grand Central Parkway.

My main concern is the elimination of the QM3, yes it obviously has lower ridership than most other express bus routes in Queens but it is still used by a good chunk of riders, in 2019, the QM3 had a daily ridership of 104 riders, which is 17.33 riders per bus, which isn't filling close to filling a bus but it's proof that people ride it, the daily ridership did drop to 46 riders in 2020 but that was due to Covid-19. I think QM3's ridership can be boosted if more trips are added, and have it operate to/from downtown Manhattan, where the Port Washington Branch and the train can not serve. This could work out cause it'd be a one trip ride from Little Neck to Downtown Manhattan with no transfers needed. In another note I propose an off-peak and weekend Express bus fare of $4.75, the cheaper fare would get more people to ride the Express buses in general during the hours less people are riding it.

I mean if you looked at the new draft plan, the Q12 stays on Northern Boulevard past 166th Street, while the Q13 goes down Sanford Avenue.

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I mean both the Q12 and n20G can serve Great Neck LIRR Station, Q12 will be diverted via Great Neck Road, while the n20G stays on Northern Boulevard, then it'll left onto South Middle Neck Road, but I think a lot of people want the Q12 extended for extra transfers to other NICE routes such as the n20H, n21, n25, n26, n57, n58, and because the Q12 comes more frequently than the n20G does.

I made a proposal based off your suggestion of extending the Q12 to Queens College, with another extension to the Great Neck LIRR Station, if you have any feedback, reply to this message.

Makes sense rerouting the N80 Imo, Idk about the N48/N49 though.

thanks

I wonder if anyone has the current Q12 and Q13 codes, or any codes for the Casey Stengel Routes that still work.

Yeah Syosset does need a route or 2 serving it, I'd say bring back the N73/N74 and have it run northbound to the Syosset LIRR Station, with reroutes for both routes, N73 would still serve Hicksville LIRR Station while the N74 wouldn't, this is my idea for the routings, but it's a long shot idea, most likely wouldn't be possible, I just wanted to share it.

I would also have one or two Hicksville routes serve this shopping center just east of the Hicksville LIRR Station shown in the image here.

I like the idea, and yeah it would make N78 more than just a "N79 short turn" which it has always been sadly.

So to start this off, my favorite bus route is the Q12 cause of it's straight forward routing.

I get what you mean, and yeah I know the N20 up until mid 2016 would short run to either Great Neck LIRR Station or Roslyn Clock Tower, and for the N78, I do agree with you with that and I made a "fantasy" extension in the image shown, but I don't know if this is the way you want it.

And QM3 only has a very low ridership because it only has 3 trips in the AM rush hour and 3 trips in the PM rush hours, if more trips were added, like lets say 6 in each direction, the ridership would go up.

Yeah they should leave the QM3 alone to be honest, and any route on Northern Blvd east of Flushing-Main Street.

To start off, NICE should implement the n20X that would run express between Flushing and Hicksville bypassing the Great Neck LIRR Station. NICE should also recombine the n20G & n20H back into the n20, and have the n21 serve Flushing again, even if it's only during rush hours. On another note, NICE should bring back the n22X, and implement the n24X. Edited

To start off, NICE should implement the n20X that would run express between Flushing and Hicksville bypassing the Great Neck LIRR Station, so that people from Flushing traveling past Great Neck or people from Hicksville traveling past Great Neck won't have to get off the bus and wait 30 minutes to get on the next bus that would take them to their location. NICE should also recombine the n20G & n20H back into the n20, and having the n21 serve Flushing again, even if it's only during rush hours. On another note, NICE should bring back the n22X, and implement the n24X.