N6 Limited

I thought the N43 was using the N16 bay at the Terminal? So what did you observe today that made you thin that the N43 to Hempstead was a genius Idea? Were there people lined up for the N6X? Was there mass histeria at the Roosevelt Field total reshuffling of bays?

Not even close N6X does stop at 169th cause it's express between 179th and westminster rd. so yes its going to make all stops afterwards

 

Perhaps you should consult the N6/N6X schedule:

http://www.nicebus.com/Maps_and_Schedules/Interactive_System_Map/IndividualMap/index.html?ID=4434

http://www.nicebus.com/_meta/NewRoutePDFs/NICE-April_8_n6_MapSchedule.pdf

 

I have provided two links for your convenience. The N6X runs primiarily between 179th street and the Hemstead Bus Terminal. The only stops eastbound are the previous N6 Limited stops east of Westminster Road. (Westminster Road, Terrace/Hilton Aves, and the bus terminal). Only the last few PM Rush Express Buses go west of 179th street to the Jamaica Bus Terminal. Those Buses stop at 169th street, 179th street, then go straight to Westminster Road, where it will make 1 more stop before the bus terminal (Hilton Ave). Westbound, they stop at Terrace Ave, Westminster Rd, run express to 179th, stop at 169th and the Jamicia bus terminal.

I'm still having issues logging in. and it won't let me reset my password.

The system map on NICE's website doesn't show specific Hempstead bay assignments; just the routes that service the Transit Center.

 

I don't know why they omitted that information. It's on the back of the printed map however.

One of the people interviewed in Newsday (http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/bus-riders-adjust-as-nice-system-changes-1.3649524 )has a blog, he wrote about the changes:

 

 

Nice Changes on LI Bus: I Make the Papers In Newsday

 

http://diaryofarepub...-papers-in.html

 

I saw the 8:51am N6 Express to Hempstead (Last Express of the AM rush). There was one person on board. There were two Locals after it a few mins later, within 2 mins of each other, but neither was packed.

 

This evening will be interesting with most N6 Expresses leaving from 179th street when virtually everyone trying to catch the N6 gets off at 169th street. Can we say packed locals , light expresses?

 

is NICE really on the new schedule? the very early morning n20/n21 was all out of whacked. buses seem appeared to come in 15 min too early or was it 15 min too late.....of course then a bus pile appeared to come in all at once. Traffic can not be the cause as there is very little traffic at about 6am or so.

 

Nothing irritates me more is when there is one bus packed to near overflow while next two buses is almost empty. The other week also pissed me off too. The LTD bus was running late. The bus had a few people on it, it didn't stop as I flagged it down. The driver waved his hand for the bus behind me. The bus behind me was packed full of people & made more stops. I should have called to complained the driver, it is unexcusable not to make your stops if he is late or not. /rant

 

Yeah there are new timetables for the routes. Go to nicebus.com or call and complain, It sucks being flagged by a bus that is not full only for the next bus to be packed.

 

 

and people waiting in the first bay for the n15 at Roosevelt field.

 

nice didn't mention any bay changes with their service change announcements. We found out because "Q23 Central Term" had a System Map with the diagram on the back. But then again, they should have seen the new signs.

So according to the article, the N6 and N22 now go to Flushing. Thats news to me!

 

You're one of those riders who don't pay attention to service changes!

 

We have hell this morning here on the 79 and 22. People stopping the bus to ask questions people not knowing the new times. I can't wait to see what's going to happen at roosevelt field.

 

Report everything to us!(Please ) All NICE riders this week should be "i-reporters"! LOL

 

They point out that the new N6 and N22 express routes, to and from Jamaica and Flushing, respectively, could cut travel time up to 20 minutes each way.

 

I was going to point that out as well, but neither route goes to Flushing, especially the N22 which is what the "respectively" denotes.

Bus riders adjust as NICE system changes

http://www.newsday.c...anges-1.3649524

 

 

 

Returning from his job in Jericho Sunday, Mike Sax hoped to quickly catch the N20 bus to Hicksville, then the N49 on his way home to Baldwin.

 

His timing was almost perfect -- for the schedule he'd come to know.

 

But Easter Sunday was the first day of major service changes in Nassau's bus system, and because his buses' departures had shifted, Sax walked from Hicksville's Broadway Mall to the Long Island Rail Road hub, then waited an hour for his connection.

 

"I'm 0-for-2 in figuring this out," said the 40-year-old security guard, noting the two lines in which he narrowly missed hourly departures. "I want to believe that this will help people, but for now I'm a skeptic."

 

The changes on some NICE Bus lines are meant to close a $7 million budget gap while providing better service for almost a third of the system's nearly 35,000 riders. Weekday express routes were added to and from Queens, while lesser-used lines were cut for nonpeak hours.

 

NICE officials say they were able to make the changes without wholly eliminating any of the line's 48 routes. They point out that the new N6 and N22 express routes, to and from Jamaica and Flushing, respectively, could cut travel time up to 20 minutes each way.

 

Rodney Benny, a dietitian from Uniondale, frequently takes the N6 into Queens, and said he welcomes the express.

"That would make things much easier," he said Sunday, waiting for a bus at the Hempstead Transit Center. "It helps with people's time management, that's for sure."

 

Minutes earlier, Benny studied the service change summary posted on the wall. He nearly didn't realize that his bus now stops at a different bay.

"I'm sure if people don't come in and look at the signs, they could be late for work," he said with a laugh.

 

Back in Hicksville, Julia Arteaga and her 12-year-old son, Jose, awaited the N24 bus to Roosevelt Field mall. Jose thumbed through a stack of newly revised bus schedules, soaking up all the changes.

 

"He already knows everything," Julia Arteaga said. "He collects all the timetables."

 

So what was his verdict?

 

"We're really not that hurt by it," Jose said, noting most of the lines his family rides are expanding. "But other people are going to have to find alternatives, and there aren't always alternatives."

 

A future member of nyctf? lol

I just found this article about the state budget providing a little extra funding to Nassau and Suffolk's transit systems: http://blog.tstc.org...ransit-systems/

 

I wonder what cuts would be restored if the money went to Nassau (as in, which ones are a priority). Or maybe they think SCT needs it more, and they could use it to help fund Sunday service.

 

BTW, was that you who posted the comment N6 LTD?

 

Yeah I made that comment, lol.

Article states Nassau gets $4M. Cuts are supposed to close $7M shortage. I'd hold onto all of it and see if cuts will realize $7M in savings. $4M should go to cover any shortage in saving $7M. With so many comments about broken down buses, perhaps the funds should go for maintenance. It makes no sense to restore cuts. That's only putting off the inevitable.

 

Exactly! As for maintenance, those O5's were always breaking down under LIB, so it's either Orion makes crap buses, and/or LIB's maintenance practices.

Herricks Road doesn't intersect with Hempstead Turnpike, did you mean the N22 or N24?

The new interactive map is awesome! Check out the site. They also have something called myNICE.

Flagged by a n6 on 30 min headways, lovely....

They didn't bother to cover the MTA logo on any signs that I've seen. But the new signs say NICE on them. I took a picture but i forgot which hosting site I have. I'll describe it.

They're rectangular like the Long LIB signs. The top has an orange band that says "Nassau Inter-County Express" in white letters. Underneath that it says "nice" with the orange dipping down over the "i" as we've seen on the buses. Then the various routes under neath that.

 

The N17 is different than the stickers they have around. The background is blue behind it, but white behind the N16 which is right beneath it. With that miscellaneous info like Wheelchair accessible, LIRR station etc that's on existing LIB signs.

 

Now that I think about it the N2/N8 sign had blue behind it too...I think.... Maybe the blue background is for new NICE routes?

Someone on youtube did a compilation of the adjustment videos:

Just took a walk to Hempstead Turnpike, guess what? BUS BUNCHING!

 

Two Hempstead Bound N6's 1 min apart on 10 min headways. The first one was packed, Standees from front to Back. O5, with people standing behind the "rear doorwell". The next one was the NG i believe, I didn't even think to look at the bus numbers.

 

Starting next Saturday the N6 is going to be on 12 min headways, they better get the bunching under control.

So, the new NICE signs for the N2/N8 that I've seen were on Meacham Ave southbound. I didn't look on the other side.

 

Northbound along Rockaway Ave, Hendrickson Ave, and N. Fletcher Ave, they simply put an "8" sticker over the "2" on N2.

Eastbound along Dutch Broadway, they put a "2" sticker over the "8", on the N8.

Cost conscious indeed..Stickers for only what's necessary.

Expressway: A statistic in the bus cutbacks. ["Expressway" are reader essays to Newsday]

http://www.newsday.c...backs-1.3647086

 

It is 6:55 a.m. on a recent Saturday. While the kids sleep and my husband is starting his shower, I am standing at the bus stop in East Meadow, waiting for the N48.

 

I don't know precisely when it will arrive; the timetable states only the time it will roughly cross my stop en route to the Hicksville train station. But that's OK. I've been doing this Saturday-morning routine for 16 years: Get on the bus, then board a train to Manhattan to teach classes at the Fashion Institute of Technology.

 

Suddenly it is 7 o'clock. No bus in sight. Then 7:05. I start to calculate the "connecting with the railroad schedule" in my head. At 7:10 I begin to sweat. I tell myself I'll be OK without breakfast and a breath before class. Finally, the bus arrives a few minutes later and I heave an audible sigh to some birds and a nearby dog walker.

 

This uncertainty will hit many others hard starting tomorrow. That's when the Nassau Inter-County Express, as Long Island Bus is now known, cuts back or eliminates service on four low-use routes. A week from today, the N48 line will not run on Saturdays at all. No other bus will come early enough to get me to my Hicksville train on time, and, for the first time in all these years, I'll have to get a car ride to the station.

 

It's troubling not to be able to rely on mass transit. Before my family moved to Long Island from Brooklyn in 1995, my husband and I used it for everything -- even our "baby handoff," when we met at the 23rd Street subway station so one parent could go home with our daughter while the other started a later shift at work.

He and I learned how to drive based on New York City bus routes. We timed our trips door to door for each subway line. Our umbrella stroller had more mileage than an old Buick.

 

In retrospect, I suppose I have never fully acclimated to a county synonymous with car pools and minivans. While one of us usually commutes to the city for work via mass transit, the other is home on the Island with our car. Years of Little League, summer recreation programs and birthdays could be supported only that way.

 

Now I am a statistic, among the 3 percent of unique daily riders who will be "significantly impacted," as reported in Newsday, when Nassau's bus system is beset by these "adjustments" starting tomorrow. I realize that the bus company is at the same time adding expresses to and from Jamaica, and restoring service to Jones Beach. But in a time when riders need the system most, isn't there something our county could do to accommodate all of its workforce?

 

I am not wealthy or one of the working poor. I'm just another commuter trying to put food on the table. I look to government to protect the way I get to work so I can pay taxes and buy the goods that support the local economy. I'm tired of being cast among the forgotten Long Islanders. We're here, we ride and, as they say, we vote.

 

So, for those with later personal schedules, there will be alternatives on other bus routes. As for me and my fellow riders -- the nurse's aides, construction workers and retail employees who normally catch the early N48 on Saturdays -- we have a week left to establish our "plan B."

Reader Lauren Isaacson-Lev lives in East Meadow.

Letter: Bus changes will help most riders

http://www.newsday.c...iders-1.3647476

 

 

 

While "cuts" has been the word most used to describe service adjustments to the new Nassau Inter-County Express bus schedule going into effect today , much more is going on.

 

The 48-route system is being redesigned with a combination of new and restored service on routes with the greatest demand, reduced service on some underutilized lines, and adjustments to schedule frequency. Far more of the system's 35,000 daily riders will benefit from the changes than will be inconvenienced.

 

About 16,100 daily riders (or about 46 percent of all passengers) ride on routes that will experience little or no perceptible changes. These routes will have frequency adjustments only, the majority of which are less than 10 minutes. Waiting times should be reduced by allowing buses more time to travel from stop to stop.

 

About 11,200 customers (32 percent) ride on heavily traveled routes that will enjoy significant service enhancements. This includes the new express service between Nassau and the city that will save two-way commuters as much as 30 to 40 minutes daily.

 

A third group is customers riding on underutilized routes. While these routes will experience the greatest reductions, an estimated 6,700 customers (19 percent) ride on the busier portions of these same routes and will perceive little or no change.

 

The remaining 1,000 people (3 percent) who ride on the least utilized portions of these routes will have to switch to alternate routes, travel during peak hours rather than midday, or make other arrangements.

NICE has made significant efforts to ensure that customers are aware of the changes and can offer feedback. New schedules and service change summaries are available on buses and at terminals and at nicebus.com.

 

NICE was able to make these adjustments without eliminating any routes, a far cry from the dire cuts proposed last year that would have eliminated half of the system's routes.

 

Mike Setzer, Garden City

 

Editor's note: The writer is chief executive of Nassau Inter-County Express.

 

Interesting Stats.

Good question. I wonder about Destination since it will wind up in the same place it started lol. Perhaps "n2 Green Acres Loop via Fletcher" "n8 Green Acres Loop Via Dutch Broadway"

Look at the video on the News 12 story. Why do they say there's no midday service on the N24?

 

Misinformation, There will be no Midday service to East Meadow on the N24 and they used a blanket statement for the whole route. Nice job News 12!

More stories:

1: http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=8610913

 

2: http://www.news12.com/articleDetail.jsp?articleId=315072&news_type=news&position=1&regionId=1&region_name=LI

Another note: The "Transit Advisory Committee" is a group of 5 tools who donated large amounts to Mangano's campaign and only know about buses from what they see on the news, which isn't any better. The "LI Bus Group of Riders Who Complain About Everything To Make Their Egos Bigger" and that stupid group only prove how laughable the system is to people who have never ridden it on a regular basis.

 

Exactly. The biggest complainers are the ones who don't use the system. Idiots complaing about changes that benefits riders and/or riders actually like. Complaining about N16 short turns? Really? They don't even know the system, where the buses go, understand how the routes are used, etc. Hearing information from the news is not the best source because they focus on anything percieved as negative and exponentially blow it up to larger than what it is. You have ignorant fools on commenting on articles, saying how the bus is "welfare" etc, while the same people use the LIRR which is just as subsidized if not more so. You have others saying to cut the bus completely, and some saying to raise fares. ugh.

 

 

That's the problem with the MTA, instead of efficiency first, they raise fares and tolls to cover wasteful practices, "No, lets not modfy the system/this route to make it more efficient, lets continue to run buses with 4 people, lets not re-route the bus to where passengers want to go, lets just raise the fare or beg Albany for more money and keep the status quo"

A couple of Articles/stories:

First: http://www.newsday.c...unday-1.3645760

Major changes to Nassau's bus system will take effect on Sunday, providing faster trips for thousands of commuters but leaving some riders without a bus.

On some NICE Bus lines, riders will wait twice as long for a bus. On others, midday service will no longer be offered. And the 45, 48 and N51 will drop Saturday service altogether.

The service changes aim to close a $7 million deficit and provide better service for about 11,000 of the system's 35,000 unique daily riders. The changes include the creation of new express buses to and from Queens and some severe cuts on routes with low ridership.

Officials with Veolia Transportation -- the private company that took over Nassau's bus system in January -- said only about 1,000 riders will be hurt by the deepest cuts, although many more may have to wait a few extra minutes for their bus.

NICE Bus chief executive Michael Setzer said he remains confident the changes will be a net gain for riders.

"I think more people are going to be pleased than displeased," he said.

Legis. Francis X. Becker Jr. (R-Lynbrook) said that regardless of how few people are hurt by the cuts, he is "disappointed" that Veolia did not bring its plan before the county's newly created Transit Advisory Committee.

The five-member board, which has yet to formally meet, was formed in February to oversee the system.

"There's always people who are not going to be happy," he said. "We have a transportation board so that these feelings could be aired out and people could have their say. And that's not happening."

Setzer said he offered to give the committee a presentation on the changes, but the county never arranged it.

Ryan Lynch, of the Tri-State Transportation Campaign, a nonprofit transit advocacy group, also criticized Veolia for not doing enough to communicate with the public ahead of Sunday's changes.

"This was billed as a more transparent process. But clearly, it hasn't been transparent," Lynch said.

Setzer said Veolia has done "everything we can think of" to educate riders about the changes. He said the company distributed 85,000 postcards, brochures and maps detailing the changes, posted 2,000 signs inside buses, and held six hours of community meetings last month.

 

If riders don't know then they're not taking responsibility for their own transportation. If they can sit on the bus and play with their smartphones, they can look up www.nicebus.com. These transit advocate groups are full of hot air. They seem to consist of people who don't use transit. Most riders on NICE are and should be aware of the changes since the information is where it is most pertinent, on the website, in the bus terminal and ON THE BUSES themselves. Sitting at a desk at a transit advocate office is not going to bring you the same awarness as someone who actually uses the system

 

As for feelings not being aired out, NICE held 2 community meetings when they were not obligated to. If riders didn't go when they had the capacity to go (meaning they weren't at work/etc) then that's not NICE's problem.

 

2nd Story: http://fios1news.com...land/node/11989

As for Veolia saying that service has been more reliable and more on time, I see bunching virtually every day. Just going near Hempstead Turnpike I will see at least 2 N6's bunched together. If I go to Merrick Road, I'll see N4's bunched. On time? NO. Reliable as in "no missing runs" possibly.

 

And this is one of the notes about service adjustments on NICE's site: (its been up for a month)

"n6 Local: Based on customer feedback and independent research, additional service will be added on the n6. Also, to reduce crowding between 7pm and 8pm, additional trips will operate eastbound to Hempstead."

I checked the schedule, they added one trip between 7 and 8PM. That hardly constitutes a plural.

there's still gonna be a n21

Not on Sunday

Well, this is the last weekday of current service. Monday there will be no N6 Limited , but there will be the N6 Express, N22 Express, N17, N43 Hempstead Extension, N16 NCC Non-Stop., N2/N8 Loop, reduced mid-day frequencies, etc.

 

Sunday we'll see the N24 Extension/N79 truncation, N23/N27 Combo, No N21, Rearrangement of the Hempstead Bus Terminal, Mineola Intermodal Center and Roosevelt Field Bay assignments, etc.