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I know this question isn't part of this forum but i wanted to know what you guys think of the electric buses? I've never rode on one and have no knowledge of these types of buses. 

Question. What would happen to the buses in academy? Would all of them go to Coach USA?

Was on my way to drop my sister to her school and was told I couldn't get any closer because the line isn't working. Then I saw this.

https://www.pix11.com/news/local-news/new-jersey/nj-transit-hudson-bergen-light-rail-train-derails-after-being-struck-by-car-in-jersey-city

2 hours ago, AceDiesel3 said:

Yeah they're still there. I was hoping NJTHC or someone could preserve one but I doubt anyone is interested...

That would have been great. 

4 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said:

32 is fine however (rest of its route) except for residents between Society Hill and West Side Ave station who needs direct access to Hudson Mall and Stadium Plaza. The 33 is probably A&C's busiest route after taking it over from Bergen Avenue IBOA as the 30 is a supplement for the 80 basically. I can also understand why people didn't like the 31 going to Journal Square as it would take a while to complete the loop (something similar to WMATA's A12 bus route back in Maryland). 

I agree with that for the 32. I thought the 31 to journal square was a good effort in the start, until I had to get on one day and the traffic was crazy (anyone who travels on the 33, 80, and 87 understand how crazy it gets between Montgomery Street and Sip Avenue. It a reason why I think a bus service from Journal Square to Newport Mall/18th Street would be great. Also, to go to a point you wonder earlier, the 31 do not stop in front of the mall anymore. It stops at wells fargo. 

32 minutes ago, DCTransitFilms said:

30 is basically the all day 80S and also gives additional service to the 80. 32 is a combination of the 30 and 80S but it runs along Sip Ave, Duncan Avenue, and Mallory Avenue. Tbh I rarely see a lot of people get off the Mallory Ave stops but when it gets to Hudson Mall it gets filled up. Another problem with that route is that for people who wants to go to the mall or Stadium Plaza from Society Hill, or anywhere on West Side between Danforth Ave and West Side Ave station would have to get off at Mallory Avenue and transfer (as the 30, 31, and 80 does not go there). The 33 is kind of fine as its the only route that travels directly along Bergen Avenue I believe. 31 is the only current route that doesn't go to Journal Square right now. Plus I heard the 31 no longer stops directly in the mall I heard which is another blow for residents.

I agree with the 30. The 32, to me, is perfect at where it at. That route doesn't need hours added or taken away. I like the fact that it goes to different parts that see no transportation at all. The 33 to me is one of A&C best route. I take that bus almost everyday (live on Bergen Ave and the 87 always gets crowded by the time it gets to me if I walk over). There's always a lot of people on the bus. I was so glad when the company took over. A few years ago, the 31 was going to Journal Square as a pilot run. It would turn on Bergen from Montgomery, run to the square, then run back on Bergen and turn to Montgomery to continue the route. (side note, if you go to Academy Street bus stop in front of C-Town, you will see the sticker is still there). I remember people complaining about it and it went away after a few months. 

On 10/10/2020 at 9:48 AM, 46Dover said:

Problem with the 31 is like Lakeland and DeCamp, it’s a privately owned operation, and if they aren’t getting any money in, most (being kind in saying that) of their operation will be shutting down.  

Which is sad but I think the companies have to think outside the box more. I'm not fully aware of Lakeland and DeCamp, but as for the buses that run in Jersey City, you have some routes that have never change for decades, but the surrounding area has grown. To me, the 31 route is irrelevant on west side ave but beneficial to those on Montgomery.   

12 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said:

Eliminating the 31 will be a huge blow for residents as they don't want to take the more expensive lightrail but they can cut hours and operate at a reduced frequency like 40-45 minutes. Serving Exchange Place would help the route since it isn't that far from the mall or can also be extended into Hoboken since there isn't a direct connection between West Side Ave to Hoboken. It can also run to the Society Hill bus stop instead of stopping by the depot. I saw 6478 on the 31 yesterday and another bus on the 31 today. Bus didn't even had a single passenger when it went down West Side Ave going both directions on both days. I also noticed that the 30 sometimes don't have much passengers as well but I did see a crowded 30 next heading to Society Hill.

 

Also did A&C used to have a #16 route or it was from NJT?

Service start to fill up once it goes on Montgomery. In the McGinley Square area, there is no direct service to the mall. I remember when the #16 stopped and a worker told me that the reason why it did was because the company said that the light rail was taking customers, which wasn't true. The Society Hill (30) bus to me is just an 80S bus, only difference is it goes to that society hill stop. When I'm in Journal Square, people on the #30 line run to get the 80 or 80S bus. I've seen people run off the bus just to get the 80.

The few times I go on this bus it's usually a lot of people. Most of them get off and go to the Shoprite downtown than the mall. I think eliminating the line entirely would be a disaster, especially for those in McGinley square. I think cutting the hours is best. I agree with DCTransitFilms that it should serve exchange place, but I also think it should go up to 16th/18th street in jersey city, something the #4  and #16 bus use to do years ago.

16 hours ago, go25 said:

If you take away what NJT did to the 1 and 86, in terms of serving segments where the 4 did, I'm sure it would work. After all, the 4 goes to downtown JC while the 6 goes to Journal Square.

In terms of LSP, its asinine that the park has no direct bus service since the 11, 231, and 305 (to a very small extent) gotten the ax. I agree that the 6 should serve it more and help entice passengers to use the HBLR.

I get what you mean on the #4 bus but I think it ok the way it is, but could use a few tweaks. I like the #4 bus and was dumbfounded when  A&C Bus Corp ended it. The bus was always active and didn't understand why they didn't just cut the hours or add a trip. 

As for LSP not having a bus service, that is something I'd wonder for over a decade. You have a lot of people now that would use that transportation just to get out the house and spend the day. Even a small shuttle van would be great at this point. 

On 8/24/2020 at 7:10 AM, go25 said:

Since I was thinking on how Jersey City's bus network has been ravaged by cuts especially the Lafayette/Greenville neighborhoods, what would you propose to bring back certain route(s) back?

 

I was thinking about bringing back the 4 and assigning it to Greenville. The route would stay the same, serving Newport Mall from Merritt St and Ocean Ave, but added to it would be to take a page out of the 6 and serve Lafayette Loop (for people wanting to take the HBLR) on hourly trips on weekdays, and weekends would go like: Newport Mall via Ocean Ave & Lafayette Loop, and Merritt St. via Lafayette Loop & Ocean Ave full time.

Thoughts?

I might have agreed to that a few years ago, but thinking now, I don't think it'll be useful. I mean, you have the #86, #1, and #6 that serves Lafayette Loop. I would maybe increase the #6 to liberty state park since that would be the best route to benefit that area. 

To me, I would like to see the Red & Tan #11 and the Lafayette & Greenville IBOA #16 return. From Journal Square, there is no direct service to Newport Mall (unless you get the path) and no direct service to Liberty State Park. The #16 was always crowded because most of the people came from Monticello Avenue and McGinley Square. I remember a driver who use to work for the company and he said the route was great, but the company was doing poorly. As for the #11, I just can't believe that no bus route has served the park in years. It would have been a gold mine now (with this illness).

The other day I saw the 6477 on the 87. 

On 4/24/2020 at 2:26 AM, B35 via Church said:

The #139 → #559 combo is my go-to for whenever I want to go to Atlantic City... If you like 'fanning long local routes with not (actually making) too many stops in between, then you'll like the #559 (bonus points for riding it at night)... Worth the 9 bucks IMO....

I used to like the #59 when I first started fanning NJT, but it's gotten rather boring to me over time... Unlike the #559, the #59 (from Dunellen) is a slow, long & drawn out ride to downtown Elizabeth alone - never mind the route's leg b/w Elizabeth & Newark....

I have a love-hate relationship with the #1.... The western portion of the route I don't really have any problems with... As far as the eastern part of the route, I actually like the diversion in Kearny... However (and this is going to be the unpopular opinion), I don't think the #1 should be running to Exchange Place... All the eastbound trips that don't short turn at [Euclid/Lockwood] or [River Terminal] IMO, should terminate at JSQ..... Either something else, or a new route altogether can cover the #1's portion east of West Side av....

The Trenton locals I eventually want to get around to doing more 'fanning on (same for the Atlantic City locals)... I've taken the #600, but I've never rode the full route...

I never though of the #139/#559 combo. That would have to be a trip I make in the near future. I get the #59 being long (i know, I've looked at that schedule a lot as a child) but still want to see it for myself. I don't know if I can agree on the #1. When it comes to a certain part of jersey city, that is one of the only bus running in that area that can connect to the light rail or path. I get the 6 bus but I think that route should be running more and service extended. The addition of the  #86 was good but it only go so far. I do agree, however, of making a new route that could take over and stop at Newark Penn Station. 

I do have a question. Have you ever been on any of the #400 routes.

I been a huge NJT fan ever since I was a kid. I would collect bus schedules and imagine riding the bus forever (i know, i was a weird child). While there are some lines I want to ride, most of my trips have been in the North part of NJ, and trimming the list wasn't easy. 

Past bus I miss, #43: I only rode this line one time right before it was discontinue. I remember the workers from the post office were very upset it was going away because it was the only direct transportation from the facility. I always thought the line could have continue if it were adjusted. Also, when it use to enter Journal Square, no one would take it to gates ave because it wasn't the 87 (even though it said Gates Ave on it), so it was a breeze to ride home during rush hour. While the ride was great, those moments always stayed in my mind. 

5. #159. I always wanted to ride this line because of the bus type (Neoplan AN459) but the ride was unexpected. I remember getting off at the last stop and wanted to walk around until I realized that I had a class that day and jump back on the bus. While I only rode it full ride one time, the scene was great and the first time I saw the fairview garage. 

4.#1. This bus was so long to me as a child. I would get excited to ride until we got to Newark (had to go to Irvington). Now when I look back, I forget about all the connections to other lines and the fact that it split into different parts (which I learn the hard way when I had to go over to visit a family member). I do know that people dislike the fact that it goes to Hudson County Correctional Faculty because people would sign in unison when the bus went there (but I didn't mind). To me. it a line that shows the difference between each Urban cities. 

3.#770. I only rode this line one time and it was awesome. I'd actually skip a summer program day just to explore this after I rode the #83 (more on that later). I wanted to visit Hackensack Bus Terminal and after getting off the #83, I said whatever bus leaves now is the one I'll get on. Sure enough, the #770 pulled up. The ride was very quiet but looking at a different ride made it exciting. It was also the first time I've been to Paterson and I remember walking around and watching all the bus fly by. I keep saying I'm going to try it again one day but who knows.

2. #111. This is another line I only took one time, but it was recent and it was what I'd imagine it to be. The driver wasn't nice, but it still didn't dampened my spirit. I took it to Jersey Gardens (first time going there) and the ride was great. I think it was too early because I had to wait almost 90 mins for the one to go to union city/ NY but it was nice. 

1.#83.  This is my favorite. I know this line so well. But I've only rode it fully from first point to end point twice. It takes me to all the areas I need, walmart, target, light rail, the heights, doctor office, union city, etc. I realize now it's my go to route when I need to get somewhere. When you ride it the rest of the way, it is like a change of culture and way of living. 

Honorable Mentions: #80 and #87: I take this lines all the time and know them like the back of my hand. Both are great but for a quiet ride to watch the scenery, I'd recommend taking them after morning rush hour and before school kids get out. 

Routes I want to try in the future: #59 (It was one of the first schedules I collected and given to me by my aunt who passed away a few week later when I was young, so always wanted to try that one). #161 (I don't know, I just like the number, already establish I'm weird). #181(Never been to George Washinginton Bus Terminal and this is the route I would use to get there). #559 (I saw this line when I was on a field trip and want to try it). #600( I don't know, but when I went for a field trip, I saw this line and figured it had to be fun).

I was on the 87 today and noticed the bus was 6293. Are they switching them up?

I was at hoboken terminal yesterday morning and saw the line for the 85 bus to american dream. Long line, as expected. This is only going to get worse.

On 10/16/2019 at 6:38 PM, DCTransitFilms said:

Are you for real? I rarely hear any Greenville buses getting into accidents and this is a first timer. 

It true. I rode right pass it yesterday and the front left end was damaged. I asked a driver about it today but she told me that she only just heard of it herself. 

3 minutes ago, nightmare402 said:

there is also the 125 and 88/C to union city for the 160

Didn't even realize that. I think the ideas are good as far as bus travel, but it can be better. I mean, if there an increase of people trying to get to the mall, will NJT increase service?

1 minute ago, nightmare402 said:

u can always take path from WTC/33rd to hoboken for the 85 to AD or journal sq for the 2 to secaucus for train or bus

I've been telling people in jersey city that it'll be quicker to get the 85. the 2 bus is good but that a long ride.

On 9/5/2019 at 11:03 AM, nightmare402 said:

2 to secaucus junction

 

 

I know where the 2 goes. Think a little further, it'll be quicker to get the 85 to the mall then the 2 and then transfer for those in Jersey City, people are going to stand at those 5/6 bus stops within jersey city line along the 85 to get there. 

10 hours ago, jass said:

No direct buses from Newark doesn't make sense to me.

I said the same thing for Jersey City/Journal Square. I mean, the 85 extended to the mall is good, but I know it going to be packed to the mall and from the mall. It gets packed when I go to Walmart with the workers and shoppers.

3 hours ago, Silver Script said:

 

Not sure what route they would run from here to there. Maybe if there was a demand for it then they'll figure out a way to do it. Hell, I would check the place out if they did!  For me, my best option would be for when the place is opened is to catch the 78 to Secaucus Junction and catch the 356 if I was going on a weekday.

 

But, for now I'm pretty sure they are only focusing on how the expanded 85, 703 and 772 service does over there and then followed by the 355 and 356 next month.

Same. I think this is just a test in the water. 

Thanks. I should have done that in the first place.

If you look at the updated schedules for 8/31, you'll see the 85, 703, and 772 routes change to go to the mall.

Just saw 6466 on the bergen bus

The three I saw saw didn't have the strip. Just a sign in the front for the bus card. Saw 6463, 6464 and 6465 in the square.

@ Orion

They don't go there anymore. It been about a year since they went there. It use to be every 30 mins, then every 45 mins, they a hour and something till they just completely ended it because of "low ridership". That bull, cause I took that bus all the time and a lot of people went to walmart or workers from walmart, micheals, lowe's, etc were getting on or off. I ask them when they will bring it back and they told me to contact walmart. Now I walk over they by the highway, which not that easy nor safe.