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Source: Newsday.com NICE Bus defends planned cuts, faults MTA
I would say that the was not as responsible as they could have been with spending money for Long Island Bus. And those broken GPS devices, I wonder if those are connected to the broken Clever Devices when it tries to find the bus' location.
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i wonder why the other buses dont have it. i saw 1836 on the N4 and it had the woman voice when the doors open "route n4 freeport'
Thats because NICE is only experimenting with how to work the Clever Devices and the Luminator signs. They must be new to this.
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I liked the woman's voice too.
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1598 has new announcements.
You mean like it doesn't say "Thank You for riding Long Island Bus" anymore? What does it say?
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While in general the N73/74 is not well used, the unique segments of the N73 are lesser used than the unique parts of the N74.
Wait, really? Then why has the N73 been the only one running on weekends all these years?
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The N46 AND n24 not even close. But N46 might work better if I am nuts then many ppl today are also NUTS the only nutty extreme part is N 51 its a desparate move to increase ridership. The rest of my ideas ppl loved em!!! NOT LYING if you were there you would know the N58 idea only can work when more funding becomes available.
No, you think "ppl" loved them. I went to the meeting and Veolia was courteous to listen to everyone's ideas and say they were great. That doesn't mean they're going to happen.
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The thing is you MISREAD MY N80/20 idea my proposal DID NOT MERGE N20 Hicksville with N80 BUT THE SHORT TURNS AT GREAT NECK!!!!!!! VIA LIE HOV and timed transfer with N25 and N51LGA LIE proposal but to avoid traffic in queens its LTD stops at little neck then springfield and 188th then main st before heading to LGA nonstop. The other is N46 reroute to mineola LIRR via roosevelt field and eisenhower park eliminating the front street segment to hempstead hempstead folk will transfer to N48/49 or N72/71/70. N46 will serve NCC parts of 46 will die. N78/78 reroute to hempstead via former N16 routing. NICE will make N16 nonstop between hempstead and NCC. Due to N46 reroute some trips and some N41 trips will interline with a new N44 CROSSTOWN via shelter rock road to manhassat LIRR serving a new base of ppl who DO NOT WANT to drive. N81 reroute via oyster bay road and crossways plaza(rush hr only) to oyster bay and later if demand warrents to bayville. Many loved that N81 idea of mine and 46 were very popular. Also ppl werent totally against N27 after NICE explained it to em.My N24 extension to bellmore (weekdays only) would have increased ridership on it's east meadow service. NICE said that many buses will be retimed for better LIRR connections. looks like N14 will get saved by new better times with LIRR and more ppl according to NICE they talked with N14 riders to learn why it failed. The one they loved was the N58 extension via northern blvd bypassing roslyn to huntington downtown then greenlawn(select runs to greenlawn)
You're nuts.
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To avoid 'confusion' for N6 and N22 riders IMO i think Veolia should take a page from staten island limited stop service. That is rename the 'express' portions the N90-N100's i.e N102=N22x N6=N106, etc.
And sooner or later, for these new routes, NICE is going to have to make new bus stop signs. I wonder what they'll look like.
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you know the goal of this operation was to keep service the same. but this is going to service cuts. you know might as just keep as the operator it would of been the same.
That may not be as true as you think it is. The spent a little more than they should have.
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I just watched this on TV.
Service cuts coming to NICE buses with low ridership | 7online.com
It is about the changes. In the report, there is also footage of them wrapping the new buses.
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I don't know if anyone caught it in the video, but N6 LTD service will be eliminated in return for the express trip(s).
Yea, I saw that. And how come the express buses planned don't go to 165th as well?
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He want to get copy of NICE Booklet of proposed schedule change/service and express like when it was LIB day, MTA had booklet of list of LIB Service Cut.
Spikecat54, I not sure if NICE provides booklets because on last Nassau County Public Hearing, Veolia did not had booklets for information of NICE plan booklet available for copy.
Well, he should of said that instead of saying "can someone give me a copy with drawings?" He didn't even say please, but thinks everyone is going to do something for him?
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Nassau bus riders lament planned cuts
Riders at the bus station in Hempstead had a few things to say about Veolia Transportation and how it runs the bus system. Nice things.More than a dozen riders interviewed Monday morning and afternoon praised the new operator -- which assumed management of Nassau County's bus routes in January.
"The buses are cleaner and the drivers seem to be kinder and more compassionate, too, especially with handicapped riders," said Debbie Mitchell of Uniondale , who was waiting for a bus to Mineola .
"They're doing a great job," another rider, a young man, said just before grabbing up his yellow backpack and joining the fast-moving line for the bus to Roosevelt Field.
But while riders heaped praise on the company -- as compared with what the buses looked like under Metropolitan Transit Authority stewardship -- most said they knew nothing about plans, announced last week, to selectively trim back service.
"Did I see the sign?" echoed Gerald Ford (yes, like the late president, but with "D" as a middle initial). "What sign?"
We walked back into the Rosa Parks bus terminal together, where I pointed out two signs advertising meetings this week about Veolia's intention to "redesign" the bus system -- which includes some service reductions.
There are also signs on buses advertising the meetings -- although, despite a large number of riders speaking Spanish as they waited for buses, I did not see any signs in Spanish.
"The bus works fine for me," said Ford , who rides six days a week from his home in Freeport to a job at Adelphi University .
"I didn't know about meetings or the reductions," he said. "I hope the reductions don't affect me, but even if they don't, they're going to affect other people and that's not a good thing."
Demetrice Bowens of Hempstead takes the bus to her physical therapist in Lynbrook two times a week. She has a car. But Bowens can't drive since she broke her right leg -- in three places -- in August and then hurt her rotator cuff in a January auto accident (she was not driving).
"The buses are cleaner, they get me where I need to go and they're on time," she said. "I haven't got any complaints."
She said she saw a television report on the company's plans to make changes. "I understand what they are saying," she said. "But it's going to be hard on this leg if I have to wait longer for a bus, especially if I miss a bus and have to wait for the next one."
Riders aren't the only ones concerned. Donald Astrab, president of Nassau Community College , and Legis. Judy Jacobs, a Democratic county lawmaker from Woodbury , fired off letters after hearing about the company's plans.
Jacobs said she'd planned to ask the company to expand services to the disabled. "I have to say I didn't expect to hear about cuts so soon," she said.
Astrab said that many of NCC's students use buses; and that the planned changes -- slated to take effect April 8 -- would hit students in the middle of the semester.
"If, in the middle of the semester, service cutbacks reduce the frequency of buses . . . ," he wrote, "then those cutbacks could affect students' ability to attend the classes that they have already paid for and are already in the process of taking."
It was cold and windy as Mitchell, a coat pulled tightly around her, watched her bus pull into the station. She said she understands Veolia's need to bridge a budget gap, but lamented that reductions would come so quickly.
"Everybody is still in the process of getting to know each other," she said, referring to riders and the company. "Everything is going so good."
The trick for Veolia -- especially with cash-strapped Nassau's refusal to properly fund county bus service -- is to keep it going the same way.
Riders demand better NICE Bus service
A newly formed watchdog group of Nassau bus riders released its demands Tuesday for better service from NICE Bus -- the day before the system's private operator will unveil plans to reduce service on some routes.At a news conference outside the Garden City headquarters of Nassau Inter-County Express Bus, the Long Island Bus Riders' Union released its report titled "From Privatization to Discrimination," which pointed out ways it says the system's new bus operator, Veolia Transportation, is not adequately serving some of its riders.
Veolia took over operation of the county system on Jan. 1 from the Metropolitan Transportation Authority , which had run it since 1973.
The watchdog group's report notes that Veolia did not properly notify residents who speak Spanish or are vision-impaired of its plans to hold community meetings Wednesday and Thursday about cutting some service to fill a $7.3-million budget gap. Veolia published its notifications only in English, the group said.
The report presented several "no-to-low cost" improvements to service, including keeping a constant stock of bus schedules at terminals, stops and buses, keeping audible announcements on all buses for each stop, and making its schedules and customer service phone line available in languages other than English.
The riders' union also called on Veolia to be mindful of all its customers when enacting planned service changes, which the company has said will target lines with low ridership.
"We're concerned about the way that the service cuts are going to impact people who ride buses not just during working hours," said Charlene Obernauer, executive director of Long Island Jobs for Justice, which organized the riders' union.
"Bus riders don't just rely on the bus to go to work," she said. "They rely on the bus to go everywhere."
NICE Bus, on a notice posted on its website, said it will not eliminate any of the 48 lines it took over from the MTA but will put fewer buses on "routes that are least used by customers and are thus the most expensive to operate." Any approved changes would take effect in early April.
Michael Setzer, chief executive of NICE Bus, said in an interview last week that company officials believe the proposed changes will cover the budget gap and avoid further cuts this year.
"We knew that we were going to start the year at one level and we were going to have to find more ... [money] over the year," Setzer said. "We've managed to squeeze a lot of costs out, but we still have some work to do."
Veolia has cut costs by $35 million compared with the MTA's projected costs if it were still running the system this year, he said. A new fuel purchase contract saved $800,000 a year and eliminating some jobs reduced compensation costs.
And at the community meeting, I am going to propose alternate ways to save money other than rearranging all the routes that just confuses the riders.
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hi
it is on the internet site now on Tuesday at 2 pm
Can someone get a copy of the report with the drawings ---i do not have a computer available ..
this request came a friends computer
i willl pay for postage----i live in westchester
thank you
steve
fdny
That makes absolutely no sense, whatever the hell you're talking about.
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Through snooping around the NICE site I found PDF's and videos!
PDF's:
http://nicebus.com/_meta/downloads/NICE-n16Restructure_April_8.pdf
http://nicebus.com/_meta/downloads/NICE-n23Restructure_April_8.pdf
http://nicebus.com/_meta/downloads/NICE-n247879Restructure_April_8.pdf
http://nicebus.com/_meta/downloads/NICE-n24Restructure_April_8.pdf
http://nicebus.com/_meta/downloads/NICE-n27Restructure_April_8.pdf
http://nicebus.com/_meta/downloads/NICE-n2Restructure_April_8.pdf
http://nicebus.com/_meta/downloads/NICE-n43Restructure_April_8.pdf
Videos:
This makes the whole system confusing and doesn't make any sense. How is this to fill the budget gap?
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Meanwhile, the 5-member TAC has been nominated.
Mangano's picks:
-An Elmont firefighter, EMT, and school bus driver
-A Morgan Stanley exec
-A taxi company vice president
Republicans: a financial consultant
Democrats: A village trustee and NYC bus driver
Those sound like people who have nothing to do with and don't use, the Nassau bus system.
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And the suspense is killing everybody here, wondering what changes are proposed.
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A revision of the M9!
OMG That's so cool. How did you create that map?
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I would create the Q30A, a route that goes from Springfield Blvd right to Little Neck Pkwy, non-stop. Its one of the busiest routes during school hours for students going to high schools along the route.
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Nassau Inter-County Express Bus Repaint/wrapped Roster
in Nassau Inter-County Express
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Its an illusion!!! Oooooooooo