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  1. I count at least five Orion V CNG buses still at the former Rockville Centre Depot as well as some minibuses all lined up at the south driveway on Banks Ave: I looked up 1673 on Auctions International and the lots where I think it would have been included did not include 1673: https://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/nassau-mta-9931-9931/page/1 https://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/nassau-county-mta-ny-22187-22187/page/1 Are these owned by someone else or are they being kept for a reason by NICE? Should we expect to see them auctioned off soon? Any ideas? Anyone miss these?
  2. I'm not sure if anyone knows this or not but there are some Orion V CNG buses still stored at the former Rockville Centre bus depot at the southeast side on Banks Ave.
  3. The ridership numbers for 2019 have just been released for NICE. It went slightly up from 77,333 weekday riders in 2018 to 79,530 riders last year. However, the average operating expense per passenger trip on a bus (not Able-ride) also went slightly up from $4.83 to $4.94 due to increased expenses (Purchased Transportation expense went up ~6 million USD). https://cms7.fta.dot.gov/sites/fta.dot.gov/files/transit_agency_profile_doc/2019/20206.pdf
  4. Not recently, no. Also, if this Summer goes well for the 1700s, I think there is still some life in them so I wouldn't necessarily talk retirement yet.
  5. Anyone want to advertise on NICE Bus? - http://www.nicebusads.com/
  6. What is your opinion on the current service level that NICE provides for the N15 and N33?
  7. NICE is running minibuses intermittently on the n57 and the n80. I've seen them frequently switch off between these and 40 ft buses including on the same day in the same morning/afternoon. I monitored the n57 one afternoon. The first run at ~2:40pm was done by a 40 ft then that driver switched to the n25. The next run never showed up and never got filled, then this thing pulled in from south of Great Neck and started doing the n57 at ~3:50pm: The destination sign, before it was switched to the n57, was for the Mercy Medical Shuttle. If it was previously doing that route and was supposed to cover the missing run, then the interlining for these is poorly planned. Also, I've seen occurrences where there has been a decent amount of people on an n57 run, possibly more than this vehicle would fit comfortably. How much money do you think NICE is actually saving by doing this?
  8. Are n20/21 buses no longer allowed to make the roundabout turns in Great Neck on South Station Plaza or Welwyn Rd? If yes, when did this become a rule? Every bus continues over the tracks and makes a right turn onto North Station Plaza which is a fairly tight turn if there are cars heading west on that street waiting at the stoplight. Buses then make a right onto Barstow Road to come around to the bus stop. With all of the buses parked on North Station Plaza as well as the usual traffic in both directions, this seems like an added time that isn't needed if drivers can make the roundabout turn without issue.
  9. What is funny is that they do that at least once every time that they make schedule changes.
  10. NICE got sued for a Workers' Comp dispute: https://law.justia.com/cases/new-york/appellate-division-third-department/2019/528808.html
  11. What does the door announcement in this video say? Looks like it's taken on the N70 at Farmingdale State College: Also, the uploader of this video has some other funny videos from NICE rides posted on YouTube.
  12. Again, I ask. Can you please answer the below questions: 2) Do you think the removal of the lower-performing routes has resulted in improvements within other parts of the system? 2a) Have you seen any improvement in reliability of service (on-time performance, buses running smoothly without breakdowns, etc) with the reductions that have been made? ie. Do the reductions make up for anything? 3) If NICE had to make more service reductions, where would you expect them to make that? 3a) Separately, if reductions had to be made, where would you choose to reduce service costs?
  13. Which route eliminations did you take personally? You don't think SCT as it stands now covers that gap? With all of these suggestions, I'm curious to know your answers to the below questions from the original post: 2) Do you think the removal of the lower-performing routes has resulted in improvements within other parts of the system? 2a) Have you seen any improvement in reliability of service (on-time performance, buses running smoothly without breakdowns, etc) with the reductions that have been made? ie. Do the reductions make up for anything? 3) If NICE had to make more service reductions, where would you expect them to make that? 3a) Separately, if reductions had to be made, where would you choose to reduce service costs?
  14. As we come up on 8 years of Veolia running Nassau's bus system, I thought we could take a look back at what has changed over this time and compare it to MTA Long Island Bus. This is where the routes are now (each category is in order of total cost per passenger from 2011 Long Island Bus stats): Discontinued: N14 N73/N74 N81 N62 N51 N50 N08 N45 N36 N46/N47 Reduced Service: N80 - Reduced to Weekday, No Midday Service N26 - 2 additional trips added during morning/afternoon - still Weekday, Rush hour only N19 - Reduced to Weekday, No Midday Service N27 - Reduced to Weekday, hourly service (from half-hourly) N78/N79 - Only between Plainview/Huntington and Hicksville. Sunday service removed. No midday weekday service. N20/N21 - N20 split in 2 sub-routes (with timing changeS). N21 reduced to weekday rush-hour only. N02 - Reduced to Weekday Elmont Flexi (Minibus) service N01 - Jamaica served weekday rush hours only, westbound in the morning and eastbound in the evening. N23 - Weekday midday service is now hourly (from half-hourly). N70/N71/N72 - No longer serves Babylon or Newsday in Melville, N70/72 shortened to Farmingdale State College N54/N55 - No longer serves Amityville. Weekend service reduced to between 45 min and 1 hour. N33 - No Sunday service anymore. Saturday service reduced from 22 trips each way to 15 trips. N16 - Reduced to Weekday, some trips operate as express between NCC and Hempstead Major Service Changes: N24 - Now serves Old Country Rd between Roosevelt Field/Hicksville. No longer serves East Meadow. Service level about the same as previously. N22/N22A - N22A discontinued. N22 Limited created in 2012 but replaced with N22 Express. 10 additional trips added on weekdays each way. N04 - Shortened runs to Rockville Centre have been converted into full runs. Some rush-hour runs converted into new N4 Express. N06 - N6 Limited replaced with N6 Express service (some with articulated buses). Stop reduction is planned for Hempstead Tpke. N40/N41 - Now operates on a schedule-less model with frequency of service varying between 10-15 min on weekdays. Small adjustments if any (includes timing changes without major reduction/addition of runs/stops): N88 - Similar service levels as LIB during the Summer N57 - Similar service levels as LIB N25 - Similar service levels as LIB N58 - Similar service levels as LIB N15 - Some weekday trips added. Mineola Intermodal Center only served during rush hours. N35 - Similar service levels as LIB N43 - Similar service levels as LIB N48/N49 - Similar service levels as LIB (a few trips have been added on weekdays/weekends) N31 - Similar service levels as LIB N32 - Similar service levels as LIB NOTES: - In 2011, the N40/41 was listed as the only profitable route for the 2.25 fare at the time. - The total ridership in 2011 under Long Island Bus was 101,981 weekday riders. In 2018, the total ridership for Nassau Inter-County Express was 77,333 weekday riders. - Between 2012 and 2019, all Orion V CNG buses were sold for scrap and replaced with Orion VII 3Gs as well as New Flyer XN40s and XN60s. - An N17 route was initially created between Rockville Centre and Hempstead. That has since been replaced with a rush-hour only Minibus shuttle. - The N87 was brought back for Summer 2013 and Summer 2014 between Hicksville and Jones Beach but has since been discontinued again. Some Data References: Latest ridership data from NICE: https://www.nicebus.com/NICE/media/assets/2016-TITLE-6-SURVEY-final-Copy.pdf NICE's Vision: https://www.nicebus.com/NICE/media/nicebus-pdfs/Let-s-Go-V2-Final-May-2018.pdf NICE 2018 Ridership: https://www.transit.dot.gov/sites/fta.dot.gov/files/transit_agency_profile_doc/2018/20206.pdf Topics for discussion: 1) Looking back, do you agree with the routes that have been discontinued? 1a) Do you think the money spent for any of the routes could/should have been spent elsewhere by LIB/NICE? 2) Do you think the removal of the lower-performing routes has resulted in improvements within other parts of the system? 2a) Have you seen any improvement in reliability of service (on-time performance, buses running smoothly without breakdowns, etc) with the reductions that have been made? ie. Do the reductions make up for anything? 3) If NICE had to make more service reductions, where would you expect them to make that? 3a) Separately, if reductions had to be made, where would you choose to reduce service costs? 4) Overall, taking into account the reductions versus provided service levels, do you think NICE has proven that they can stretch a dollar more than MTA Long Island Bus could?
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