subwaykid256

7 hours ago, subwayfan1998 said:

or Train would be the Best Option for RBB

if not even QBL wants the  why would RBB want it?.

How about sending the  via 63 st/QBL then RBB

So I took a similar approach to JeremiahC99 As I decided to swap the  and  having the  terminate at a extended version of Astoria Line to LaGuardia Airport along with the   . The  will run QBL until 63 Dr- Rego Park where the W will turn at 66 Av then go via Clyde/Fleet/Selfridge St. Than it will eventually go via Woodhaven then the tracks on 99/100 Sts.

Stations I propose

Austin St

Yellowstone Blvd

Metropolitan Av- Union Type

Brooklyn Manor- Jamaica Av

Atlantic Av

Liberty Av 

Linden Blvd - Pitkin Av

(take off Aquaduct Racetrack or leave it there)

Aquaduct - North Conduit

Broad Channel

(Discontinue Rockaway Park Shuttle)

Beach 90 St

Beach 98 St

Beach 105 St

Rockaway Park - Beach 116 St

2 hours ago, CenSin said:

The Coney Island-bound run could be much better. The MTA didn’t schedule away the trains at the terminal, and so there was a long delay at West 8 Street. Captain Obvious says: If you find yourself at West 8 Street right after being delayed in between Neptune Avenue and West 8 Street, take the on the upper level to cut down on time waiting for the terminal to clear. Just to be sure that the won’t also be waiting, look for signs on the Manhattan-bound side that indicate a left the terminal recently. It should all be visible from the middle of the train when it’s stranded between Neptune Avenue and West 8 Street.

• (A Coney Island-bound pulled into the station and opened up at 5:10; it closed down at 5:10 and left the station at 5:11. The next train on the countdown clock was designated “Kings Highway ” but the signage on the train read “Culver express” when it arrived.)
• Broadway–Lafayette Street: opened 5:12 (1 minute early when compared to scheduled 5:13)
• Broadway–Lafayette Street: closed 5:12
• 2 Avenue: opened 5:13
• 2 Avenue: closed 5:14
• Delancey Street–Essex Street: opened 5:15
• Delancey Street–Essex Street: closed 5:16
• East Broadway: opened 5:17
• East Broadway: closed 5:17
• York Street: opened 5:20
• (The held a little longer at this station for about a third of a minute.)
• York Street: closed 5:21
• Jay Street–MeteoTech: opened 5:22 (on-time when compared to scheduled 5:22)
• (The train across the platform didn’t wait for the . The conductor made a 20-second announcement about the special F Express program before closing down.)
• Jay Street–MeteoTech: closed 5:23
• (The plowed past the switches on the lower level like they weren't there.)
• (The passed Bergen Street at 5:25.)
• (The passed Carroll Street at 5:25, bypassing the local.)
• (The passed Smith–9 Street at 5:26 with a that was also pulling out of the station. It crept down the incline towards 4 Avenue–9 Street slowly.
• (The passed 4 Avenue–9 Street at 5:27.)
• 7 Avenue: opened 5:28
• 7 Avenue: closed 5:29
• Church Avenue: opened 5:33
• Church Avenue: closed 5:33
• Ditmas Avenue: opened 5:35
• Ditmas Avenue: closed 5:35
• 18 Avenue: opened 5:36
• 18 Avenue: closed 5:37
• Avenue I: opened 5:38
• Avenue I: closed 5:38
• Bay Parkway: opened 5:39
• Bay Parkway: closed 5:39
• Avenue N: opened 5:40
• Avenue N: closed 5:41
• (At this point, the became visible from the rear window of the train, probably pulling into Ditmas Avenue.)
• Avenue P: opened 5:42
• Avenue P: closed 5:42
• Kings Highway: opened 5:43 (early by 5 minutes when compared to scheduled 5:48)
• Kings Highway: closed 5:44 (just 15 seconds after opening up—no nonsense here with the holding lights)
• Avenue U: opened 5:45
• Avenue U: closed 5:45
• Avenue X: opened 5:47
• Avenue X: closed 5:47
• Neptune Avenue: opened 5:48
• Neptune Avenue: closed 5:48
• (The train stalled from 5:50 to 5:51 in between stations due to another F train in the station up ahead.)
• West 8 Street: open 5:52
• (The train stalled at the station waiting for the terminal track to clear. A Coney Island-bound pulled in during this time and opened up at 5:54 on the upper level, pulling out about 100 seconds later at 5:55 after a Manhattan-bound pulled into the station from the terminal. Another Coney Island-bound pulled in and opened up at 5:58.)
• West 8 Street: closed 6:00 (and pulled out at 6:01 after a Manhattan-bound pulled into the station)
• Coney Island–Stillwell Avenue: opened 6:03 (late by 1 minutes when compared to scheduled 6:02)

I rode the Coney Island bound train from West 4th to Church Av. I was surprised by how smooth the ride was but as well as how empty the car was.

5 hours ago, Cabanamaner said:

Was thinking the same thing. The closed entrances at 168th, Nostrand, Franklin, 50th Street, and many others have been stuck in limbo waiting for funding for years. Only now that the system gets absurd amount of funding and it still doesn’t happen. 

Absolutely I would also like to see some stations get new entrances. 

5 hours ago, subwaykid256 said:

Question is there any viability to expand the  past Lefferts Blvd via Liberty Av? Perhaps to Sutphin Blvd?

Also thoughts on my  line

Sorry just making some edits

Dyker Heights -Crospey Av/ 14 Av

86 St/14 Av

Bay Ridge Pkwy/14 Av

Bay Ridge Av/14 Av

New Utrecht Av - 62 St 

54 St/14 Av

46 St/14 Av

39 St/14 Av

Church Av - McDonald Av

Coney Island Av/ Church Avs

Flatbush - Ocean Avs/Church Av

Linden Blvd - Caton Av/ Bedford Av

Empire Blvd/Bedford Av

Eastern Pkwy/Bedford Av

transfer at Franklin Av for 

Fulton St - Atlantic Av/Bedford Av

transfer at Nostrand Av for  connection to L.I.R.R

Gates Av/Bedford Av

Lafayette Av/Bedford Av 

Myrtle Av/Bedford Av

Flushing Av/Bedford Av

Rodney- Keap Sts/ Bedford Av

turns left to S 10 St

Williamsburg - S 10 St/ Wythe Av

 BQX

(tunnel on Grand St Manhattan)

Grand St/East Broadway

East Broadway- Rutgers St

Chatham Sq/East Broadway

X ( Red Hook- LaGuardia Airport via Hanover sq & 63 St tunnel)

Grand St / Chrystie St

x (Possible transfer to  via Bowery)

2 Av - Houston St

x (Teal  from Broadway Junction - 242 St )

14 St/ 2 Av

X

23 & 34 Sts are local stops served by the X & 

 

42 St/2 Av

X

55 St/2 Av

 

72 St/ 2Av

86 St/ 2 Av

96 St/2 Av

106 & 116 Sts are local stations served by 

125th St/2 Av

3 Av - 138 St

3 Av - 149 St

163 St & Claremont Pkwy are local stops served by 

Bronx - Tremont Ave

183 St- Lesandro Junior Way/3 Av

goes via Lorillard Pl turns right on Fordham Rd

 Arthur Av - Fordham University/ Fordham Rd

Pelham Pkwy - White Plains Rd 

 

Pelham Pkwy - Esplande 

 

Seymour Av/ Pelham Pkwy

(turns left to Seymour Av)

Allerton Av/Eastchester Rd

Gun Hill Rd/ Eastchester Rd

Boston Rd/Eastchester Rd

222 St/Eastchester Rd

 233 St/Laconia Av

turns right on 233 st then left on Baychester Av

Nereid-Pitman Avs/Baychester Av

Wakefield 241 St 

Question is there any viability to expand the  past Lefferts Blvd via Liberty Av? Perhaps to Sutphin Blvd?

Also thoughts on my  line

Dyker Heights -Crospey Av/ 14 Av

39 St/14 Av

Church Av - McDonald Av

Coney Island Av/ Church Avs

Flatbush - Ocean Avs/Church Av

Linden Blvd - Caton Av/ Bedford Av

Empire Blvd/Bedford Av

Eastern Pkwy/Bedford Av

transfer at Franklin Av for 

Fulton St - Atlantic Av/Bedford Av

transfer at Nostrand Av for  connection to L.I.R.R

Gates Av/Bedford Av

Lafayette Av/Bedford Av 

Myrtle Av/Bedford Av

Flushing Av/Bedford Av

Rodney- Keap Sts/ Bedford Av

turns left to S 10 St

Williamsburg - S 10 St/ Wythe Av

 BQX

(tunnel on Grand St Manhattan)

Grand St/East Broadway

East Broadway- Rutgers St

Chatham Sq/East Broadway

X ( Red Hook- LaGuardia Airport via Hanover sq & 63 St tunnel)

Grand St / Chrystie St

x (Possible transfer to  via Bowery)

2 Av - Houston St

x (Teal  from Broadway Junction - 242 St )

14 St/ 2 Av

X

23 & 34 Sts are local stops served by the X & 

42 St/2 Av

X

55 St/2 Av

72 St/ 2Av

86 St/ 2 Av

96 St/2 Av

106 & 116 Sts are local stations served by 

125th St/2 Av

3 Av - 138 St

3 Av - 149 St

163 St & Claremont Pkwy are local stops served by 

Bronx - Tremont Ave

183 St- Lesandro Junior Way/3 Av

goes via Lorillard Pl turns right on Fordham Rd

 Arthur Av - Fordham University/ Fordham Rd

Pelham Pkwy - White Plains Rd 

Pelham Pkwy - Esplande 

Seymour Av/ Pelham Pkwy

(turns left to Seymour Av)

Allerton Av/Eastchester Rd

Gun Hill Rd/ Eastchester Rd

Boston Rd/Eastchester Rd

222 St/Eastchester Rd

 233 St/Laconia Av

turns right on 233 st then left on Baychester Av

Nereid-Pitman Avs/Baychester Av

Wakefield 241 St 

How about a new teal  which will run on the  line via a new pair of tracks on Chrystie St. 

The route will run from Jamaica Center - 125 St/2 Av

while the  gets a slight train reduction to make space at WillyB

On 4/17/2019 at 7:47 PM, engineerboy6561 said:

I'm not sure the teal  makes a ton of sense there. The big issue is that you're introducing two new merges on QBL, which is already running at pretty close to capacity on the express end. By running the  along 63 St and then along QBL you're probably going to f**k people relying on the  because the brief merge is likely to cause delays on the . Furthermore, the southbound  would need to be timed to hit the Queensbridge interlocking exactly as an  train does so that the  doesn't get held up by an  merging and the northbound  is going to need absolute priority over the , so any error could back up QBL express and 6 Av local services.

The variant where the  returns and serves Euclid is interesting but isn't going to work on existing trackage; the issue is that the  and  share one track pair coming into Jay St-MetroTech and so there aren't really open slots on the 8 Av/Fulton tracks there. Furthermore, even if you do get it working any small f**kup is gonna wind up causing conga lines on the . If you want to add service on the Fulton local the thing that would make the most sense would be to extend both the 8 Av and 2 Av local tracks down to Whitehall St, then build a four-track terminal station at Whitehall with two tracks to turn the  and two through tracks to Court St. That would free up the 8 Av-Fulton tracks to their full 60tph capacity, and if you structured the track layout at Whitehall St well you'd be able to keep the  running cleanly; I put a track map for the station below.
 

The  train idea is solid, but is there a reason you want to end it in Harlem? If you run it as an express you can tie 2 Av to Queens or the Bronx with it while still keeping end-to-end time reasonable.

Thanks for the feedback. I had in mind that the   could serve as a replacement for the  up until Phase 4 is introduced 

But now that you mentioned it can the 2 Av handle the  though 

because if so I could run the  from Fordham Rd- Broadway Junction as a local via 2 Av/3 Av

or have it go from Jamaica Center to Broadway-125 St

The  can go from Coney Island- Bay Plaza 3 Av Express

The  can go from Kings Plaza via Utica Av to Bay Plaza via 2 Av/3 Av/ Pelham Pkwy local

Some Ideas I wanna put out there

Teal 1

Metropolitan Av- Forest Hills 71 Av

Via 2nd Av

After Essex St The  runs on 2 Av line from Houston St - 55 St

then runs on the  line via 63 St stopping on Roosevelt Island & 21 St Queens Bridge Then runs local from 36 St- Forest Hills 71 Av

Teal  2

Metropolitan Av- 2nd Av/125 St

Restore  line and extend to Euclid Av

Teal 

Brighton Beach- 2 Av/125 St

Teal 

Broadway Junction - 2 Av/125 St

After Essex St via Chrystie St Connection run on the 2 Av line phases 1-3

2 hours ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said:

If you're talking about the  going local (late nights), it runs between 207 and Far Rockaway as a local. Then a shuttle train between Euclid Avenue and Lefferts takes effect serving that branch.

I know that but I was referring to this new idea that started a page back

I'm just curious if the  is going local? what will serve Far Rockaway & Lefferts? 

I assume the frequency of Montague Tunnel is 24 TPH

 71 Av- Euclid Av (via State St) 8 TPH

 Astoria-Brighton Express 8 TPH

 B'way Junction - Bay Ridge 95 St 8 TPH

Sending the  to Bay Ridge with no Upper/Midtown Manhattan service is ridiculous. When the  went there it wasn't as popular as the . I'm not saying that it shouldn't happen. But it shouldn't happen with it being the sole local train via 4 Av.

The  plays a big role as it is being the sole train that is local in three boroughs. And connecting popular Neighborhoods like Astoria and Bay Ridge to the city.

If you guys are saying that having the  run to 71st Av wouldn't work. Then the  alone to Bay Ridge wouldn't work

Question how popular is the idea of Bringing the  back to Forest Hills-71 Avenue?

My ideas

 Metropolitan Av to 96 St/2 av 6 Av local

 Astoria- Ditmars Blvd to Brighton via Bway local/Brighton Express

3 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

I don't really think we should send the  to the Bronx as a north-south line- the best use for it could be a 161st/163rd and Bruckner line to Throgs Neck, but for now it should just be left alone.

good idea let me try it that way. 

UPDATE: Logistics are tricky with this route

Primarily trying to decide whether to send it down Story or Laffayette would be a viable options because sending down a subway line down a highway wouldn't be feasible

Heres what I got

161 St-Yankee Stadium 

Park-Melrose Avs/161 St - Metro North

3 Av-Boston Rd/163 St 

Prospect Av/163 St

Intervale Av/163 St 

Hunts Point Av/163 St 

Honestly this wouldn't be too bad since it would connect with every line in the Bronx except the 

 to the Bronx

After 148 St turn onto Fredrick Douglass Blvd then a sharp right onto Macombs Pl (then under or over Macombs Dam Bridge) turn left onto Jerome Av

161 St - Yankee Stadium/ Jerome Av 

167 St-Jerome Av/Edward J Grant Hwy

170 St/Edward J Grant Hwy

Featherbed Ln/Dr Martin Luther King Blvd

Tremont Av/ Dr Martin Luther King Blvd

Burnside Av- Bronx Community College /Dr Martin Luther King Blvd

Fordham Rd/Dr Martin Luther King Blvd

Sedgwick Av - Kingsbridge Rd

Kingsbridge - 230 St/ Bailey Av

A proposal To extend the  line to 41 Stops

Upper West Side 72 Street

Amsterdam Avenue/Broadway 

57-59 Streets John Jay College/

10 Avenue

49-50 Streets/

10 Avenue

42 Street/

10 Avenue

34 Street- Hudson Yards

10 Avenue 

23 Street/

10 Avenue

 MANHATTAN

8 Avenue /
14 Street
  (propose entrance/exit at 9 Avenue)

6 Avenue /
14 Street    

14 Street/Union Square 
     

3 Avenue /
14 Street

Propose entrance at 2 Av 

1 Avenue /
14 Street

(with Entrance at Ave A)

 BROOKLYN

Bedford Avenue /
North 7 Street

Lorimer Street /
Metropolitan Avenue

Graham Avenue /
Metropolitan Avenue

Grand Street /
Bushwick Avenue

Montrose Avenue /
Bushwick Avenue

Morgan Avenue /
Harrison Place

Jefferson Street /
Wyckoff Avenue

DeKalb Avenue /
Wyckoff Avenue

Myrtle-Wyckoff Avenues
 

Halsey Street /
Wyckoff Avenue

Wilson Avenue /
Moffat Street
 (Northbound Only)

Bushwick Avenue-
Aberdeen Street

Broadway Junction 
(Fulton Street)   

Atlantic Avenue / 
Snediker Avenue /
Van Sinderen Avenue

Sutter Avenue /
Van Sinderen Avenue

Livonia Avenue / 
Van Sinderen Avenue

New Lots Avenue /
Van Sinderen Avenue

East 105 Street /
Turnbull Avenue

Canarsie-Rockaway Parkway /
Glenwood Road

Remsen Avenue/

Flatlands Avenue

Ralph Avenue/

Flatlands Avenue

Utica Avenue/

Flatlands Avenue

(propose to extend Platform to have Avenue J entrance/exit)

Flatbush Avenue/

Flatlands Avenue

Nostrand Avenue/

Kings Highway

Ocean Avenue/

Kings Highway 

Ocean Parkway/

Kings Highway

McDonald Avenue/

Kings Highway 

W 8 Street/

Kings Highway 

Stillwell Avenue/

Kings Highway

Bensonhurst-Bay Parkway

86 Street 

some ideas I have/would like feedback for

Extension for the 

After 8 Av

Washington St/14 St

23 St/10 Av

34 St - Hudson Yards/ 10 Av 

42 St/10 Av

50 St/10 Av

57 - 59 sts John Jay College/ 10 Av - Amsterdam Av

66 St- Lincoln Center/ Amsterdam Av

72 St/ Amsterdam Av- Broadway 

79 St/ Amsterdam Av

Central Park West/ 86 St 

Madison Av/ 86 St

Lexington Av/86 St 

2 Av/86 St 

Queens

21 St/ 30 Av

31 St/30 Av 

Steinway St/30 Av

50 St/30 Av

73 St/30 Av

81-82 Sts 30 Av

94 St/30 Av

Astoria Blvd/30 Av

East Elmhurst Ditmars Blvd/Astoria Blvd

Extension for the 

148 St station replaced by shuttle or use to terminate some 

After 145 st 

161 St - Yankee Stadium/ Jerome Av 

Anderson Av- Shakespeare Avs 

Nelson Av/168 St

170 St/Dr MLK Blvd

174 St/ DR MLK Blvd

Tremont Av/ DR MLK Blvd

Burnside Av/ DR MLK Blvd

183 St/ Dr MLK Blvd

Fordham Road/ DR MLK Blvd

192 St- Kingsbridge Road/ DR MLK Blvd

Sedgwick Av/ Kingsbridge Road

230 St/Bailey Av

238 St/Bailey Av

Van Cortlandt Park S/Bailey Av

Brooklyn

After New Lots Av

Essex St/ Linden Blvd

Crescent St/ Linden Blvd

Fountain Av/ Linden Blvd

Howard Beach- Conduit Av/ Linden Blvd

So how about having the stop at

Centre - Lafayette Sts/ Worth St Transfer for the 

Chatham Sq/ East Broadway Transfer for 

Rutgers St/ East Broadway Transfer for 

Grand St/East Broadway

Brooklyn

Bedford Av/ South 4 St

Marcy Av/South 4 St

Union Av/ South 4 St Transfer for 

2 hours ago, CenSin said:

The provisions for the line would preclude serving Chambers Street as the extension was planned to run under Worth Street. The bellmouths are just south of Canal Street. From Worth Street, the line would continue via East Broadway, intersecting with the 6 Avenue Line at Rutgers Street. The East Broadway station has provisions for an upper level platform for such a line.

Hmm okay. I'll edit my line to do this instead and probably create a shuttle that goes from South 4 - 2 Av

Im just wondering if theres a possibility we could, extend the E past WTC,  Use the South 4 St connection, also I'm using the idea that was proposed to run a line via Stuyvesant Av to get to Utica.

I didn't know that but since they both are fine the way they are lets leave them at their current routes

Then it will stop on Broadway-Lafayette St then it will enter 2 Av on the center track where the new line will start

New 

Avenue C/ Houston St

Brooklyn

Bedford Av/Grand St

Marcy Av/South 4 St

Union Av/ South 4 St Transfer for  at Broadway   at Hewes St

Montrose Av/ Bushwick Av Transfer for 

Flushing Av/Bushwick Av

Myrtle Av/ Stuyvesant Av Transfer for 

Lafayette Av/ Stuyvesant Av

Gates Av/ Stuyvesant Av

Halsey St/ Stuyvesant Av

Fulton St/Stuyvesant-Utica Avs Transfer for 

Bergen St/Utica Av

Eastern Pkwy/Utica Av Transfer for 

Rutland Rd/Utica Av

Linden Blvd/Utica Av

Avenue D/ Utica Av

Kings Hwy/Utica Av

Flatlands Av/Utica Av

Avenue N/ Utica Av

Kings Plaza-Avenue U/Flatbush Av

tell me your thoughts

I have an Idea why not send the and to second Av and Have the and serve astoria

my new stations

W Broadway- Laguardia Pl. To take some relief of Broadway-Lafayette & W 4 St

Avenue C and 2 Av

7 Av South

( Tillary Street

( Neptune Av

Atlantic Av

Allerton Av

Bronxdale Av-White Plains Rd

it would also be cool if someway it was possible to add stops along the Williamsburg and Manhattan Bridges