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There will be shuttle buses connecting Bedford Park Blvd through Woodlawn on the to the Bedford Park Blvd on the . Riders are advised crosstown buses to the Concourse line from Jerome Avenue stations. By the way, this service change will also be in effect the weekend of June 16-17.

 

What we were wondering about, though, is how the trains are going to terminate at 161 St.

terminates at Franklin Av

runs express between Atlantic Av and Franklin Av

terminates at Bowling Green

 

terminates at 2 Av station

runs via 4th Av Local/Sea Beach Local

shuttle runs between Coney Island and Brighton Beach

Good question. All I know from the MTA website is that they mentioned no shuttle train, so they probably won't have one.

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Uptown train derails on the switch between the express and local tracks north of 145 St. The uptown express and local tracks in that area are impassible.

How? Utica has one layup track in the middle they'd both have to use!

 

Yeah, that's why my instincts would have told me to suspend the .

So, it just seems like a waste than to cut the ,like more of a "Why Not?"

 

Maybe in this case, but not in others necessarily.

But Utica can handle both.

 

Okay, then.

Just out of curiosity why is everyone suspending the ?

 

Well, the is often considered a supplementary route because you can just run the local to replace it. Thus, the is often the first route to be suspended when track capacity is an issue (e.g. reroutes that require sharing tracks w/ another line, or temporary terminals that can't handle many trains as the usual ones).

How would the fit on one track? And how would a downtown train, after running on 8 Av, get to the Manhattan Bridge?

http://www.nycsubway...maps/track.html

 

Thanks for pointing that out. FamousNYLover had a better idea.

runs via in both directions between W 4 St and 59 St

 

runs via in both directions between W 4 St and Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av

 

trains terminate at 34 St

 

trains run express between Canal St and 59 St in both directions

disregard

Can you say which tracks are not usable?

On the contrary, I feel like the fleet was upped yesterday. As I waited for an Manhattan-bound at Kingston-Throop, not 2, but 3 Euclid-bound 's made a stop through. This was in the span of 10 minutes. Then while moving, I spotted another Euclid-bound at Lafayette, one at High St and yet another at Fulton St. The only conclusion that I can come up with is that they upped the fleet yesterday so that more people could use the Franklin Ave to get to Prospect Park. After all it was a holiday, I guess?

 

I don't think that there's any reason why they'd schedule three trains to come within 10 minutes. This sounds like a good old case of bunched trains, which meant that there might have been a big gap with no Euclid-bound trains just after the three of them came.

Then why did the replace the HVACs on the R32s if they're still going to do the swap? I thought the whole point of the swap was to get the unreliable old HVACs above ground.

I'm talking about the NEW cars that are being built NEW. I'm pretty sure the R142A traction motors are no longer made by Bombardier, and Kawasaki hasn't used them at all for traction motors lately. For rapid transit cars, they've really only been using Siemens, except the R160Bs that have Alstom propulsion since they were built in a joint venture with Alstom.

 

MTA and Corona Yard would probably prefer having only one type of traction motor to deal with. So if the Bombardier motors are really out of production, than maybe they will put in something else (e.g. Alstom) into all of the trains to streamline the operations. But, MTA as usual will try to keep short-term costs down, and thus this may not be happening.

181 St - 34 St/Herald Sq, local stops

Shuttle, Far Rockaway-Euclid Av

Single-track shuttle, Clinton-Washington to Lefferts Blvd

Jamaica Ctr - Lexington/53rd

 

Suspended

145/205 St - 34 St/Herald Sq

Jamaica 179 St - 47-50 Sts/Rockefeller Ctr

Single-track shuttle, Carroll St - Coney Island

Shuttle, Metro Av - Myrtle Av/Bwy

 

Via Montague St Tunnel, via West End

Coney Island - Prospect Pk

 

Court Sq - Bedford/Nostrand

 

Runs express between Franklin Av and Atlantic Av

Downtown trains terminate at Bowling Green

 

Suspended

Alternate trains terminate at Grand Central/Queensboro Plz

Still that's not a reason to replace the motors; the MTA mostly likely will fix the motors up.

 

I see. I didn't realize that they would do that.

Here's an idea:

 

Due to FASTRACK, no trains on the brighton line between Prospect Park and DeKalb Av. The and bypass tracks at DeKalb are available, just not the Brighton tracks.

I think that they will keep about 5 or 6 sets on the .

 

Where did you here about that?

disregard

Are all R32s going to the , or just the ones that haven't had their HVAC replaced in the SMS?

It's going to be the same for obvious reasons. The MTA is not going to replace all of the fully functioning traction motors on 380 subway cars, that's just a waste of money.

A lot of the bombardier motors are dead on the R142As, more so than other trains from other yards. Hopefully they will replace them with new ones, whether they are bombardier or something else.