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This is why I want MTA Bus to take over BxM4C and rename it BxM5 (keep the BxM4 separate, that is long enough on its own) and run it to White Plains transit/shopping/parking/MNRR center. As long as Westchester gives the MTA its cut for the route, it would be a good deal.

I can speak for the S79...and yeah, would be nice if those NGs could go a bit faster on the bridge instead of getting blown past by express buses, cars, motorcycles, cows, and everything in between.

The S79 SBS, S53, S93 and B103 LTD would like a word with you.

B35, I'm saying it would be a new route that would just follow one of those northeast shore routes, not a diversion of a current route. Sorry for not clarifying.

No, that's what I'm saying. It currently doesn't make all stops, and an alternative is to have it make more stops.

But nobody would take such a route. Why are you replicating much faster subway service with a bus? There's a reason all SI buses end at 86 St: even with occasional waits, R to N > any damn bus to 59 St or anywhere else. Again, I could in theory use a 65 St bus that goes to SI, but you couldn't pay me to do so; the N will be faster 99 times out of 100.

So then just make it a local route all the way. Not really an express line if it makes all stops on GC and then Manhattan.

So how do we fix the BxM4? Less stops on Grand Concourse?

??? The point isn't to specifically serve Bay Ridge for those routes. That's just a transfer point to Brooklyn buses and the . The reason the S83 will (when they eventually add it) still terminate there is to connect with Brooklyn buses and the . Any St. George route will terminate there, too, if the MTA ever gets that far.

I have to say, the B2 extension and the Staten Island routes confuse me. If one wants a St. George to Bay Ridge route, there are routes between Narrows and St. George that can be used that already have buses on them. Extending buses to 59 St just doesn't make sense because you're trying to replace the "unreliable" R with buses that run on a highway or 4 Ave to 59 St; you *will* encounter traffic there. Easiest thing is [insert northeast SI shore route to follow] from St. George to SIE/Narrows/whatever and then run to Bay Ridge. Short, quick route, and then hope people actually use it.

I've yet to see a definite explanation of what the unions are doing to hold up a complete merger and why they are doing such things.

I've said this before, but they really should complete the MTA Bus operations merger all the way and have MTA Bus and MTA Subway so that all bus operations are completely one agency. Then...ALL Brooklyn express routes use BM, ALL Queens use QM, ALL Bronx use BxM, ALL Staten Island use X. Why? Because SI has the vast majority of X routes while the other boroughs are mostly NYCDOT designations with some NYCT here and there. Simplify and make it conform.

People with no transit service in their neighborhood and the 5, 2/5, BxM10 and BxM11 a drive or long walk away. Like I said, this wasn't my most diligently-planned route. Just wondering if there's any potential. Route doesn't have to end in Westchester. Just saw a good spot for a terminal. It can end the few blocks to the west where it would stay in the Bronx.

This is where those RTS Express buses the MTA turned down would've been nice, eh?

You might be able to tell where I'm from based on my name. I also travel to Staten Island a few days a week. I'll tell you right now you couldn't pay me to take an extended B2 to Staten Island from near the F train.

Got my Bx15 back on page 17, with one post suggesting it would fail. I'd like some more feedback on it.

What's the consensus on the BxM15 (or 12, it's just a name), shit, good, or has potential? It goes through a part of Bx that doesn't seem to have much in terms of transit coverage.

Also: just looked at BxM4 service map, and that looks like the least "express" route in express route history. It makes all local stops in The Bronx down to 158 St, crosses a bridge and makes the usual express bus stops in Manhattan. It's a long-distance Limited route with 45-foot express coaches; and it runs along a subway line.

Would work if traffic was snappy on McLean, Katonah and East 233.

*throws out the route file* What route? Ha. But I do have to wonder: do people who use those routes really walk that long walk to reach them? Not really much room to park along the 10 and 11, too. The reason I thought of this was the sizable distance between Laconia and the 10 and 11 at many points.

Sorry to revive this, but I had one express bus route I wondered up. https://maps.google....039177,0.077162 BxM15 (or BxM12, if you want to keep it in-line with the others). First/last stop in the Bronx is Laconia/Astor. Just did this based on map. Seemed like the area had zero transit coverage.

Oh hell, I really did manage to not see that. This isn't twitter, but a #Fail hashtag applies on my part there.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202807188220210378870.0004d43a719caafccb0c3&msa=0&ll=41.026244,-73.767743&spn=0.019523,0.038581 There it is. Also, I did this: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202807188220210378870.0004d43c8f7c1d3747af3&msa=0&ll=40.802895,-73.921766&spn=0.039177,0.077162 BxM15. Last/First stop in The Bronx at Astor and Laconia. Why? Because why not. Also, I don't see a Bronx Bus ideas thread for some reason.

Ask Westchester County and NYCDOT to hand it over to MTA Bus and call it the BxM5. https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202807188220210378870.0004d43a719caafccb0c3&msa=0

So F trains all running express CI-bound b/w Jay and Church (with posters up, and with conductor announcing it, etc.). So I'm sure folks here can imagine the response from the sheep passengers. Sigh...humanity.