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Sigh. Alright look, I'll make this nice and easy. Just read all these links

 

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/46111-r68a/?p=796399

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R160_(New_York_City_Subway_car)

 

Hope this helps.

 

Alright 1)all the stuff about the NTTS not being able the Rockaways is a bunch of bull I've seen other NTTS like R143s, R142as testing in and out of the Rockaways and the we're just fine 2) the R46s don't meet the demands for the they suck on the the R44s were actually faster and better. 3)They can run other equipment out there other than R46s out there the R46s are so boring on the nowadays

I just tought about something the and can swap some R46s for R160's right now they can make the R160s on the full length like they did with the R32's in the summer swap back in 2012 the crew on the are qualified for it since 207 st yard can maintain NTTS now

 

question are the R188s ever going to go on any other line but the I've been speaking to alot of crew members and they have said that the R188s might move to the lines when they become CBTC and R142s and R142as might get CBTC upgrades for the

My bad for the post messup

My bad for the post messup

That just reminds me. I had heard the 32's were officially banned from the line, due to them eliminating the car stop markers they would use, so yes, that would be out.

They're probably not going to bother moving them anywhere; why wouldn't they just stay on the ? That's Eastern Div., which like the was the the dumping ground for the oldest stuff (it only got new equipment because the 44-68's couldn't be sent over), so this makes sense.

Yeah the 44-68s cars can be sent over to the because they are 75 footers the can't run on jamaica line because they are to long and stations are to short

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Well, if you would want to know why the and has the most confusing car assignments (I think) is because of the mix of 4 car R160's and R42's at East New York Yard.

 

Is a R32 transfer to Coney Island possible? It can serve on the , or .

if an R32 transfers to coney island yard it would most likely go to the only because it's a part time line and the only uses cars nowadays that are 4 cars length the R32's can't operate in 4 car length because of the door situation and the c/R position

Since 207th Street can maintain the 160s now, they should make the route 100 percent 160 this summer, I really don't see the point of the swap if 32s with busted A/C's is STILL going to be on the route, in the fall/winter they can make it back to being split.

IMO the the should be half R160s and half R32s after this swap so the (J)/(Z) won't be covered with all the old equipment

The / fleet has about 27 trainsets total (?)...I could say 13-14 trainsets of R32s and 6 trainsets of R42s and the rest being R160s.

Yeah I know I read the Krueger list thing (or however you pronounce it) the uses approximately 25 train sets on off-peak hours 27 during rush ours and 22 trains during midnight some train riders do complain about extra trains

I also heard that they are planning to put a couple of sets of R179s on the so they might send a couple of R46s back to Jamaica yard hope those go to the because the does need some extra sets of trains

I've started to RFW on the just for this morning as I type this. There's more than 7 on the line. It's actually 10 sets so far. Just came from Broad and about to be at Jamaica Center. So I guess 10 sets of R160s should be on the by now. So I guess half of the 28 eight-car sets of R32s have been transferred to the already. In return, at the same time, the should be half R160s and half R32s.

yeah they is going to keep 4 of the R32s sets it has until it retires which is awsome because I can take R32s to school now I heard that the full amount of R32s sets coming to the should be delivered by June 4th which is awsomee because I have a regents that day so I can enjoy the R32s on the after

I heard that after their summer swap that less than half of them R32s in 207 st yard are staying on their until retirement and this could mark them end of their R32 put - ins for good

The only thing coming from Coney at this time is that random R68/A that is borrowed from a layup.

And if the takes spare cars, I see R46s taken from Jamaica, R32s from the , or MAYBE one or two more R68/A from the .

that's what I'M talking about the can take some spare R160s from coney island yard or jamaica yard

Those R160s on the isn't Full Length

I'm talking about from another full time line with a couple of spare R160s it has sitting in the yard (like coney island yard) they can hand some over to the to it would be nice to see some on that line again

Facepalm this kid won't give up, for the last time, they're not using R32's for OPTO service,

 

 

Back to the topic, I would expect more R32's to be transfered tonight as well as R160's, they couldn't do it last night due to that GO

I know that the R32s can't go to OPTO service I'm just playing around anyway I hope more R160s go to the they make the breakdown less I hope they put some on the soon to that line needs an upgrade

 

not exactly, there's Myrtle-Wyckoff which is a station that will not work

true I was just thinking about that ????

I was just wondering if the R179s are going to probably be 67 footers are they going to way more than the R160s because according to some other discussions I had with people R160s are the heaviest cars in the system

I was talking to a T/O on the and he's said that the R32s can operate in OPTO service as long as the stations are on the right side of the train so they can operate the R32s on Rockaway park service in OPTO (as long as the R32 leaves at the left side of rockaway park) and weekday midnight service ( the same for rockaway park

Which is why he have this area here:

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/24490-subway-proposalsideas-thread/

yeah I had an account there before I made a bunch of suggestions on bus routes one of them is on why the B7 should be extended to Ridgewood/Bushwick

Do these questions of yours ring a bell?

 

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/44950-r32-fleet-swap-discussion-thread/?p=832855 http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/44950-r32-fleet-swap-discussion-thread/?p=832860 http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/44950-r32-fleet-swap-discussion-thread/?p=832892 http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/44950-r32-fleet-swap-discussion-thread/?p=832913 http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/44950-r32-fleet-swap-discussion-thread/?p=832954 http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/44950-r32-fleet-swap-discussion-thread/?p=832962

Once again suggestions not questions look I know my history of the nyc subway and I have experience with it so I know my stuff if the R32s can't go to the they can't go to the if you read my posts carefully maybe that you will see that they are more of suggestions then questions

What are you talking about guy? That's what I just said if you actually read my post properly. If the damn stations with platforms were located at the left, where do you think the operator would go? Open the doors from the cab, where he operates the train, or go towards the back of the car and open the doors from the left side? Maybe it's you who put it the other way around. Should I repeat myself again?

 

 

How the hell was I arguing with you? He were the one who brought this whole conversation up in the first damn place. You said it like 5 times and I answered your question. You should have never brought it up then if you didn't like my answer. Don't make it sound like I'm the only one who disagreed with you.

You kept on taking my suggestions to seriously when I said that some R32s should go to the you were the one the shot it down every time and try to explain to me why most likely the R32s won't go to the even though it was just a thought and that's kind of an argument on my block

You got out backwards kid...T/O sits on the right side of the train (facing the traveling direction). For it to work, all stations would have to be side platforms (right side platforms).

thank you somebody gets it it's what I keep on scratching my head about why he keeps on arguing with me about it when I'm just making suggestions and just trying to say that it is possible for the R32s to run on weekend service

Well, the reason why the rust-buckets (aka the R42's) are still operating on the and is because of the R44's (as I say it) untimely retirement in 2010 thanks to it's mechanical problems while in (unlessoperation.

 

Oh, and will we see another R42 on the , or even any other line (like the or for example)? I feel like this will happen with this permanent swap of the 32's going to the and , and the 4-car R160's to the ...

How are we going to see another R42 on the or any other line there are exactly 50 R42s left in ENY and according to Kruger list assigments (or however you pronounce it) there are at most 6 sets of 8 car R42s running on the and forget about ever seeing an R42 on the again riders can not stand those tin cans (unless you're being sarcastic or something)

My last paragraph on that post was off-topic. The rest of that post was to answer your question about the 32s running on the . I mean you did ask why they can't run on the like 5 times already...

 

And once again, if you have suggestions or ideas, then just go to the Proposal Thread instead.

No I'm suggesting that they run on the and putting my opinion out there to see what you all think I'm not asking you all why they can't run on the

-I get it now...I just thought about it in my head all night long rather than watching the R32 videos. In order for OPTO service to work on the R32s and R38s, all stations with the platforms have to be on the left side (as you stated), not on the right side. The right side at the other end of the car is where the T/O has to be in order to operate the train. The left side at the other end of the car is where the T/O has to walk towards to and open the doors from there.

 

-But if the stations with the platforms were on the right side, then yes, they need a C/R in the middle of the train (4-cars, 6-cars, 8-cars or 10-cars). Yes, it's impossible for the T/O to do the job alone since he/she can't open the doors at the right side of the other end of the 1st car of the train. The T/O would have to walk towards the middle of the train in order to open on the doors on the right side where the stations with the platforms are.

 

-Now for the R40s and R42s, however, the blind faces only feature C/R controls, wheres the window faces only feature T/O controls. So OPTO is 100% impossible on these two car types.

 

@R3216068E

 

Now you finally understand? Virtually all other cars from R44s to present have full width cabs that feature both T/O and C/R controls, therefore, making OPTO service successful if necessary. That's why you can't put the R32s on the weekend service. It's not like the R32s will ever end up on the anyway, as Lance said, because the entire purpose of the summer swap is to allow the aging air compressors on the R32s to breathe out in the open air, and it's an 8-car for 8-car swap. And I don't even know what your other reasons for wanting the R32s to be on the for anyway...

 

The real reason why the A/C swap was done away with is because there wasn't enough R32s to cover the other half of the 's fleet, therefore, requiring about half of the 50 leftover R42s to be sent down to 207th Street or Pitkin Avenue yards to cover the last portion on the other half of the line's fleet. That lowered the spare ratio for the J/Z, so more of East New York's R160s had to be in service to make up for that. Some other times, they use 2-3 more trainsets of R46s from Jamaica instead of taking half of the 50 remaining R42s from East New York. So more of Jamaica's R46s or R160s had to be in service to make up for that. Another large reason was because of the 's frequency. Depending on the schedule and the lateness of the train, an train entering 207th Street terminal from Far Rockaway may be sent back out as a Lefferts-bound train and vice-versa. The R46s feature electric side signs, so it's simple, as opposed to the R32s and R42s, which feature rollsigns. Remember the has the same midday, evening and Saturday headways like the does. The also features the same headways too (except Saturday). I know this is off-topic, but whatever.

yeah you're your going off topic but your making sense I'm just making suggestions stop taking them so seriously

Do you even know what OPTO is? Lord

one person train operate service it's when one person operates a whole train