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29 minutes ago, Union Tpke said:
I was on the Q58 yesterday and I saw two fare beaters with different approaches. Which of the two is more infuriating?
- A woman in her 20s quickly snuck through the back door and sat down with a grin on her face. Someone wanted to sit next to her but she pointed to the front of the bus and said that she was saving it for her boyfriend who had paid the fare and sat down. She had an iPhone and could clearly afford the bus fare.
- A teen holding his phone and with earbuds clearly out, just pointed to the inside of the bus, indicating that he would not pay his fare, and got on.
Let me see that teen do that to the bus driver of that Q112.
#2 is a savage
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2 hours ago, brakethrow said:
The 142s/142As seem to have the most solid sounding horns in the system. Perfect tone to it and rarely do they sound off.
The ones on the 46s sound so bad its good.🤣
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That's besides the point. Do you want to spend 2 hours stuck in a tunnel in a R211? Stuck in a dark old subway tunnel in a R211 is not what people want, they want good reliable service.
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Just out of curiosity, when you say grew up with NTTs. What line ?(the )?
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2 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said:
You know im agreeing with you right ?
Yeah, just wanted to get my point across...🤣
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1 minute ago, Maxwell179 said:
emphasis on When It’s Working cs tuh
Tell me how the was running in the 90s and how it is right now.🤣
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1 hour ago, subwayfan1998 said:
I Care because R68s and R62s are compatible with Modern World, Look at Japan, UK, Germany and Sweden, Trains are Nice and New unlike Trains in NYC.
Do you want to know something.
In the 1990s, We were the best subway in the world.
In the 1990s, All of the trains were rebuilt and refurbished. (Or new)
Trains were running fast and smoothly (before the 1995 Williamsburg Wreck and timers)
And more importantly, it was reliable.
Many other states and countries looked at us, and tried to make their transit system like us because we were once the very best IN THE WORLD.
What defines a good Subway?
To me its, Well built safe equipment. Its fast and on time. its reliable. We had that in the 1990s and the early 2000s. This was our prime.
But even today, there are some aspects that we are still #.
Let me break it down
Do you know that we are one of few that runs 24/7?
Along with Chiraq. We do
Do you who has the most Stations in the world?
We do at 472.
Do you know how many services (lines) we run.
Washington D.C. has 6 Lines
Atlanta has 4
LA has 2
Chicago has 8
London has 11
Tokyo has 13
And NEW YORK CITY 27! Get Outta here.
So to answer your statement. Yeah we run R68s, but guess what? I'm writing this at 12:44 AM and almost every subway system in the world is closed. But in NYC. There is a R68 on the right now, picking up people all night long, everyday.
London is sleeping, Tokyo is sleeping, hell Sweden is sleeping.
But the damn Staten Island Railway is running all night, along with the entire subway system.
I say with proud confidence that New York City has the Best Subway in the world (WHEN IT IS WORKING!)
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7 hours ago, subwayfan1998 said:
it dated back to 1980's but they look like they're from ww2 lol
R68s should be retrofitted or scrapped.
I don't think people "really" care about how trains look. People want quality service. The train only uses Tech trains and the is literally taking an L. Meanwhile the has been doing its thing the R62s and the works great.
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22 hours ago, subwayfan1998 said:
Thanks but
1. R262s usually Replaces R62s which is running on the and 42nd Street , so 90% more likely R262s run on Both Lexington Avenue and 7th Avenue Line.2. You're Right, but I Don't really like the R68s it is too old and dates back to WW2, so there is a Chance that R268s would replace the R68s around mid to late 2020's
3. You're Right doesn't need R211s unless if extended back to QBL, already has R160s doesn't need R211s either, also the has many to Most R160s so it would be best thing to for R160s from the swap to the in order for the to be 100% R211, of course should be 100% R211. (I Often see more R46s on the than i see R160s)
#1. Just look at the RTS. The Nova LFSes aren't directly replacing the RTS. But the Novas are moving the Next Gens to the depots that use RTS. So the R62s don't have to be directly replaced by the R262s. The will do fine with R142s. The R262S need to go heavily used Lexington Av line. Think about it. Does the really need R262s? The doesn't need to change.
#2. The R68s are still doing its thing. And yeah they might not look that good. But keep in mind that those R68s are on heavy usage and long routes like the and . The R68s have been holding it down for over 30 years and they still have life in them.
#3. It doesn't matter if the has R160s. The and are the most heavily used letter routes. And the is a 3 borough local that is using some of the oldest equipment. The can keep the R160s. But just because a train is using a car type today, doesn't mean it can't change tomorrow.
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1 hour ago, subwayfan1998 said:
R160s and some R211s
R160s and some R211s
R211s and some R160
R211s
R211s
R160s and Some R211s
R160s
R211s and R179s
R179s, R160s and R211s
R160s
R179s and R211s
R179, R160s and R142
R143 and R160
R211s
R262s
R142s
R262s
R142s
R142s
R262s
Midtown R262s
Rockaway R179 or R211s
Prospect Park R211s
This isn't a bad list but...
1st. The R262s should go to Lexington Av. The only other train that it would go to is the . So R262 , , , , and 42 St . The rest of the A division NTTs could go to the and .
2. The R211s are retiring the R32s, R42s, and R46s. So the R68s are going to still stick around for awhile. So the , , , , and Franklin should continue to use the R68s till the mid to late 2020s.
3. A few minor things. For example, the doesn't need any R211s. And the and should be 100% R211
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Not only that, but the has great Manhattan AND great Brooklyn ridership. Especially compared to the and .
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2 minutes ago, subwayfan1998 said:
Ok I Get it, But Still will keep most of R160s
That's the point. The should have the newer equipment because of SAS.
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On 4/26/2019 at 12:18 AM, subwayfan1998 said:
A, F, R and Rockaway Shuttle will be more likely to get R211s than Q train would.
Look at it like this. When ever there is s new SBS route. MTA will put the newest artics on that new route (except S79). So since the has the newest extension (and is still going to be extended some more) it makes sense that the gets some r211s.
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8 hours ago, Jemorie said:
Kid, they're not gonna put the newest cars in the system on the least used lines.
With that said. Would it be likely to see some R68s on the Rockaway Shuttle given that the R68s will be the oldest in the fleet. The Rockaways don't need tech trains.
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48 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said:
The MTA stopped mass retirements after the car shortage back in 2009/2010 because they had retired a ton of R32s/R42s which caused problems when the R44s had to also be retired. I'd expect the R42s to be kept as a spare factor and quietly retired given their low numbers; the R32s will probably go a few sets at a time when the R211s first arrive but probably disappear quickly after the cars are proven reliable.
If I was the MTA, I would run the R42s on low usage route. I think the best place for them would be on the Rockaway Park . That way you can put some R46 on the main line and the R42s can do there little Runs on the Rockaway Shuttle.
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1 minute ago, subwayfan1998 said:
so around next year or 2 years from now? I Thought they would be all Replaced by R179s? I Thought R211s would replace the R46s after the CBTC on QBL are installed?
2 Things.
1. There are still not 100% to start scrapping a whole fleet. They are still fairly new and any sort of problem can easily pop up and take them all out of service.
2. Then you wouldn't have any spare equipment. If the all the R179s have to be pulled out of service for some issues. What will you have as a back up?
And you have to realize that they're about 230 R32s. While there are around 200 R179s ordered. Once all the R179s come in, perhaps a few of the worst performing R32s will retire. But once the R211s come through, for sure they will be retired.
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31 minutes ago, subwayfan1998 said:
When will the R32 will be retired off from the NYC Subway?
I Don't like R32 those trains are dated way back since WW2,
Around 2020-2021 when the R211S come to and . The R211s will replace all R32s, R42s, and R46. The R46s will be replaced shortly after and the other R211 options come through.
Also the R32s came through 1964. And they will push on Into the early 2020s.
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9 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:
SCRAP YARD. Yikes.
Why though? Was something in there or was it Gun Hill being Gun Hill.
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I would put a Harlem Shuttle running from 148 Street and 96 Street. This could allow the to go into the the bronx and help out Jerome, White Plains or atleast run to Grand Concourse.
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1 hour ago, Enjineer said:
Given that it's already about 7 cars long, and they've removed the crossover south of the station, would it be possible to extend it an extra three cars (even if it might have to go slightly north?) Or would ridership simply not warrant that much effort?
Harlem 148 Street, and 145 Street are 331 and 342 out of 425 Stations in terms of ridership. Honestly, I would extend the to the Bronx. And have a "Harlem " that would run from 96 Street and Harlem 148 Street. The could help out the in the Bronx, while the can just focus going exclusively to Dyre Ave. Or the can go over the at 149 Street to provide some Jerome Express. I feel that the can be better utilized other than just a alternative. The shuttle can use a 5 car R142.
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10 hours ago, Lex said:
That was supposed to happen years ago, but it didn't. Three guesses as to why.
I read that Harlem residents wanted the station to stay open.
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9 hours ago, R32 3838 said:
I doubt it, MJQ is looking to be the last depot, as more artics and lfs comes in. More buses are being pushed to to Brooklyn to displace their rts. Remember fb is getting artics for some of the B46 as well.
You got a point there. I was reasoning that since Flatbush has a solid 40 RTS, Ulmer Park and MJQ were eventually fall off. Ulmer Park and MJQ have around 20 RTS, while Flatbush has 20 more than both of them.
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3 minutes ago, BDNQ2345 said:
That's means we're down with MJQ and FB, and i think Flatbush might be the last Depot in the city to finish off the last RTS
Flatbush without a doubt is gonna be the last depot with RTS. But MJQ and UP practically have the same amount of RTS. So I want to know which depot is going to scrap their RTS next.
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