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Mineola's a tricky station, they're gonna have to re-work the hell out of that layout.
To my knowledge, the north side of the station (westbound side) will remain intact, and not move, although some new concrete would be great. For the south side (eastbound side) though, that's a whole different thing. The be track will be built close to where the station building is I think. Not sure completely though. It's a good excuse to finally get rid of the old red structure overpass though. That station is definitely not gonna be easy, you said it.
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Where in Mineola is Nassau Tower?
Right at Mineola station, at the main Street railroad crossing. Southwest side.
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Does anyone know if Nassau tower will be torn down for the project in Mineola? Idk where else the track would go.
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You are correct and I forgot about that. There are a bunch of dumb regulations this country made in the railway industry. Take a look at all new railcars in this country: R179, WMATA 7000s, BART Fleet of the Future, the new ACELA, the new Brightline in Florida, the CTA cars, MiamiDade new cars, and even MBTA, all have the traditional round headlights.
Unfortunately this design is too unrealistic unless something changes in the books.
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To be fair about the R179s, I don't know if that design really took off yet at that point. Remember that the design was finalized a long time ago, and production delays followed.
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Nice! I hope construction starts pretty soon.
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No news, no link... Everything is subject to change. In case you don't know me, 95% of my posts have not made it to Black and White and will not until long after I post. I don't get my info from news articles, I get them from MTA or Industry Brass.
I know, that's why I ask. But really, any talk about the first cars and when they will arrive?
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Hot off the press.... R211 award has been accelerated and expected sooner than later this year.... 2017 award with a 2026 entry into service for all cars including options.....
Is there a news article about this? Also, is there a date for the first car in service? Thanks.
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Based on experience if you do N20H- N20G transfer works, if you do N20H-N20G-MTA or N20G-MTA you get double charged. If you do N6 to Hempstead- N6X Jamaica it's one fare
The two transfers only works for NICE buses. So I took the n27 to the n20H to the n20G for one fare.
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It suppose to "allow" 2 xfrs but I wouldn't count on it. The amount of times I got charged "extra" on NICE is tremondous. If your transferring to NYCT bus be prepared for the bus driver to flag you on... That's why I pay with coins these days on NICE
I have used the two transfers and have always gotten them. But that's another shot at their consistency if you haven't.
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It’s alright. Less jobs for them, more for us. The MTA should just cede operation of the railroad to some NICE-like entity and let them be responsible for their own public transit.
Lol, the issue for me is, I live in Mineola, and have to deal with NICE. I need this third track. I can't imagine what could happen if the LIRR became privatized...
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We as a country cannot move forward because of intransigent politics. Quite sad.
Even the mayor's of some villages along the protect who were formerly against it are now for it. To pass up a multi-billion dollar investment in long island infrastructure is beyond me.
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Source?
http://www.nicebus.com/Mobile/Service-Alerts.aspx
It also comes up in transit apps because of GTFS data.
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It seems that the project is getting even more controversial, for whatever reason
A high-stakes game of chicken played out at midnight Friday on the proposed third track of the Long Island Rail Road.
Faced with a looming Republican veto that would scrap the $2 billion project, the MTA withdrew its proposal that was more than a year in the making and then immediately resubmitted it, buying the project another 30 days of review.
The state’s little-known Capital Program Review Board, comprised of representatives of both chambers of the state Legislature and Gov. Andrew Cuomo, had until midnight Friday to tacitly OK the spending plan or to issue a veto that would effectively kill the project. The MTA’s board had already approved the proposal, which was an amendment to its five-year capital spending plan.
But Friday afternoon, LIBN reported that state Sen. Martin Goldin, R-Brooklyn, who casts the Republican vote on the panel for Sen. Majority Leader John Flanagan, R- East Northport, had threatened to veto the plan.
The reasons for the last-minute objections were not made public, despite a growing consensus that the third track project was essential to Long Island’s economic future. Mayors of several communities along the main line said their earlier reservations about the project had been addressed and were now on board, according to published reports.
However, the ongoing chaos in New York’s subway system may have played a role. Following a derailment of a train beneath Harlem on Tuesday, Cuomo declared a state of emergency in the MTA, promising $1 billion to address the multiple infrastructure failures that have plagued the system for months. It was not immediately clear where that money was coming from.
RELATED: LIRR third-track plan in jeopardy of Flanagan veto
In parliamentary terms, the MTA has bought itself another 30 days to address lingering Republican concerns. During that period, any member of the spending tribunal could veto the plan, which would force the MTA’s board to vote again on the expansion proposal, according to a report published in Newsday.
Flanagan issued a statement late Friday acknowledging his objections:
“Given the derailments and service disruptions that have jeopardized rider safety and paralyzed the region’s mobility, the withdrawal of this proposed amendment will provide the MTA…with the opportunity to develop a comprehensive solution to the ongoing commuter crisis,” Flanagan said.
In a statement, Kevin Law, CEO of the Long Island Association, a major proponent of the third-track, said he expects that Senate Republicans “will ultimately do the right thing for Long Island and allow the third track to move forward.”
Flanagan’s comments offered hope that the project was not dead. “I look forward to reviewing the MTA’s forthcoming plan and working together to return our region’s mass transportation system to a state of good repair,” he said in the statement, issued less than two hours before the midnight deadline. “Long Island Rail Road commuters and their families deserve nothing less.”
The third track proposal dates to January, 2016, when Cuomo and LIRR officials determined increased capacity was needed along a nearly 10 mile corridor of the main line stretching from New Hyde Park to Hicksville. That section of two tracks routinely creates rush-hour bottlenecks and delays that could be alleviated by an additional track, proponents say.
The plan also calls for upgrades to several stations, new parking garages, sound barriers and the elimination of numerous grade-crossings.
Link to article: http://libn.com/2017/07/01/mta-pulls-third-track-plan-over-republican-veto-threat/
This is getting rediculous.
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The bigger issue is that Cuomo continues to play politics with infrastructure at the worst possible time. We shouldn't even have to worry about the cars coming in later than possible, especially with all the fleet problems we've been having. The R179s are way behind schedule (given that they're doing EMI testing now, I wouldn't be surprised if the delivery schedule has slipped even further), and the R32s, R42s, and R44s are hanging by threads. We need new subway cars yesterday.
I don't think him playing politics is going to affect the order. One, the R179 order has already been spead up to get everything by September 2018. Also, it seems like this is just a case of paying for what needs to be paid for now. That doesn't mean it pushes back the R211 order.
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What I'm getting from this is that we will still get the promised number of cars, the order will just be confirmed and paid for at a later date. I think. If that is the case, I can live with that, as long as we still get the cars.
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Except that the site got the PM ferry times completely wrong. There's only two trips, arriving at 5:50pm and 7:30pm.
Lol, there's always gotta be something wrong.
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Some n27 runs will be extended to the Glen Cove Ferry starting June 10 to get riders to the ferry to Manhattan during Amtrak construction. Look at NICE doing something right for a change!
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Does anyone know how I would go about requesting a bus stop along an existing route? Thanks.
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Oh, sorry everyone, wrong thread. lol
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Does anyone know how I would go about requesting a bus stop along an existing route? Thanks.
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The n22A cut is completely unknown, there are no sign indicating it would never come at Roosevelt Field. NICE never took down the stop sign for the bus, it's confusion all around. Compared to when the
was there they would have a RED sign underneath the stop sign saying Effective Feb 12 2010, nXX is discontinued, as an alternative etc). It's one thing on not having money to run the service, it's another to be not transparent in their changes. Putting a duct tape on the stop signs ain't that hard...Yeah, I never understood the lack of signs within Nassau about the route, it's not like it'd have been difficult. TBH, I would've gone around and taken down the signs FOR FREE. I guess not. The only time NICE did anything like that was with the n20 split. They had nice fancy signs, that for some reason are still there after a year and a half...
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Yeah but it's probably better then a plain white roof. Not to mention probably cheaper. Remember after having to ax 10 routes, even though they had low ridership and there fore expensive to operate, they can't go about ordering buses with new expensive paint schemes. It will have people asking 'why didn't you just order buses with an less expensive paint scheme and keep any left over money to fund some service on the routes that were cut?'
They could defend themselves on buying buses by saying that the money for the base order, of 30 buses, was put away before the money crunching or that buy saving the money on operations that they had enough to buy the buses. Also they could say they got help from the State or Federal Government to help offset the cost of the new buses.
In that case, I wish the government could've thrown in a bit more for a wrap. When you're talking about a single bus that already cost a few hundred thousand, a wrap or paint job couldn't be much more to top it off.
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I see these service cuts mostly as Nassau County government's short sighted financial decisions finally coming back to bite them. Really, it's is all on the County Legislators for claiming that they had access to a surplus that just happened to materialize a few weeks before the April cuts.
Oh I definitely know it's the county's fault. It's their funding that has caused a lot of this. But nice hasn't been perfect either.
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It's all part of their plan to reduce the amount of buses running on Old Country Road between Mineola Intermodal Center and Roosevelt Field Mall. The n24's extension to Hicksville and it's tendency to arrive a few minutes behind the n22 at the major transfer points during the day most likely contributed to the decision to axe the n22A quietly.
But I have to question that because that is not the route the n22A took. It did not impact traffic on that section except for the less than quarter mile from glen cove road to the mall entrance.
I understand why they cut it. They need to consolidate their service. However I personally feel so screwed over by NICE. At the time of the takeover from MTA, I had the n27, n23, and n22A all running by my house. The first blow was the change in the n23's permanent terminus to the Mineola Intermodal Center. Was that annoying to not have that route anymore? Yes. But I perfectly understood why. Then, this happens. No more weekend service on the n27, and no more n22A at all. I feel like I have no options anymore. Now the nearest in service bus on weekends is a 25 minute walk. Even on weekdays, the n27 is nice I guess, but the n22A is what could get me places.
And to top it all off, NICE did a horrendous job of informing people of the discontinuation of routes. The n22A signs, which btw for some reason only say n22, have now been up for three months since the discontinuation of the route, and I see no sign of them taking it down.
NICE has done the residents and workers of this county an injustice. I'm sorry I went off on this rant, it wasn't my intention, but I don't know what to do anymore.
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was there they would have a RED sign underneath the stop sign saying Effective Feb 12 2010, nXX is discontinued, as an alternative etc). It's one thing on not having money to run the service, it's another to be not transparent in their changes. Putting a duct tape on the stop signs ain't that hard...
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Nice! Are there any videos of the train going forward?
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