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21 minutes ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said:

Are Academy charter buses owned by NJT?

No

On 1/20/2019 at 2:39 PM, Ron2themax said:

 

You'll usually see artics of route 70 on a Sunday. Though there was a ultra rare occurance of one being active on a weekday service in which I've seen on MyBus a couple weeks ago.

Don't forget route 39 has them too if you're talking Newark based routing. I agree with B35 via Church about the 159 line New York service. Throw in 158 as well

I do recall a Hilton Neoplan #9545 running on the 126 during the AM rush this week

4 hours ago, S78 via Hylan said:

What’s a good route to catch 2000-2003 MCIs on?

From my experience the 67 on occasion

16 hours ago, Silver Script said:

 

Would be nice if NJ Transit brought bus service back to the Walmart in Kearny. Hell maybe limited service with the 30 and 40 would be fine.

 

But, I have no idea if it would even be worthwhile (As in how many people it would attract) or how that would work between NJ Transit and Walmart. Sure beats having to walk about 15-20 minutes after getting off either bus.

Well as I said in the post. The city would run the route not NJ Transit. The route also doubles as a alternative to the PATH (From Journal Sq to Newark to be exact). A link from Kearny to Jersey City and as another bus route from Newark to Jersey City and as a bus from Kearny and Jersey City to Newark Airport. Buses would be running frequently so will all the things I factored in. The route would have a very good ridership and would increase the amount of shoppers at Walmart if buses are running frequently especially if the route is running along almost the entire strength of Broad St (a major corridor in Newark)

Recently there has been tons of development in Newark specially in the Downtown/University Heights area. With gentrification in that area. Affluent public transit should be the first priority in order to make it accessible to everyone and increase the population. 

Living near the area (Lincoln Park) I have studied the bus routes surrounding the area and have created new bus routes of my own. 

The lower part of Downtown (Anything below Market St) is served by the Broad St and Washington St (uptown only) routes: #11,#13,#24A/B,#27,#GO28,#28,#29,#39,#40,#62,#65,#66,#67,#70

Washington St: #5,#11,#28,#29,#65,#66,#70 

Buses heading to North Newark: #11,#13,#27,#GO28,#28,#29

Buses heading to Newark Penn

#5,#39,#40,#62,#65,#66,#67 (Drop off only) #70

Buses going to Harrison/Kearny 

#30,#40

Buses heading to Ironbound

#40

Buses heading to EWR 

#40 (North Area) #GO28,#62,#67

Buses heading to EO/Orange 

#5,#24A,#24B

The upper part of Downtown (The most gentrificated area) is a different story. 

Buses heading to North Newark: #11,#13,#27,#GO28,#28,#29,#34,#41

Buses heading to Newark Penn

#1,#5,#21,#25,#34,#39,#40,#62,#65,#66,#67 (Drop off only) #70 

Buses going to Harrison/Kearny 

#30,#40

Buses heading to Ironbound

#1,#25,#34,#40

Buses heading to EWR 

#40 (North Area) #GO28,#62,#67

Buses heading to EO/Orange 

#5,#21,#24A,#24B,#34 

Buses to NYC 

#108 

Most bus routes going to Newark Penn past Raymond Blvd are few and far between. #72 and the #76 are the only buses that serve Downtown to Newark Penn at all times. #11,28,#29,#30 and #41 only serve University Av during evening times and with full service only on Sundays. Some #29 buses and the #78 only run on rush hour. Only thing that runs semi-frequency is the Light Rail branch to Broad St which only runs every 15-20 minutes on Rush Hour. 

Improvements/Bus Route Creation. 

#1,#13,#25,#27 stay the same but NJT should follow their schedule and not allow bunching

#11 and #29 go to Hill St full time. New development is happening along Broad St and this will condense the amount of Bloomfield Av buses going to Newark Penn on the Weekends and evenings. Express buses to Newark Penn stay the same. 

#28 will be the only route on Bloomfield Av besides the #72 to go to Newark Penn. Provides another option for MSU students service going to Newark Penn/NYC besides Decamp or Montclair Boonton Line. 

#GO28 should have increased frequently. Half-hour frequencies replaced with 12-15 minutes headways on Rush Hour and 20 minutes headways. Should utilize the suburbans given to the route. 

#40 should have 20-30 minutes headways at all times. It's the only route to run the full strength on South Street. Would see a spike in ridership if happened. Also should be reroute to Market St instead of Raymond Blvd heading to Jersey Gardens/Ironbound would turn on Mulberry to Raymond. 

New bus routes: 

University Hts/West Side Pk

This route would start at S 20th St Loop and then to Grove St and to 18th Av running to New York PABT via Norfolk/Irvine Turner. Would provide additional service along Irvine Turner/Norfolk and provide a bus route to New York. Besides the #107 which serves the Weequahic part of Newark and the #108 which serves Seventh Av, parts of Downtown and the Ironbound. This route would provide direct NYC service to the West Side/Springfield Belmont and University Heights neighborhoods. Buses also run along Union City. Buses run every 5-7 minutes on Rush and 15 min on Middays/Weekends. 

#43/Harrison Av 

The #43 will return and be run by a IBOA. It has been extended from Lincoln Park to Newark Airport (Every other trip ends at Poinier St and Broad and starts at Emmett and Broad) and will only go to Journal Sq. Buses will run every 4-6 minutes on Rush Hour and every 8-10 min on Middays/Weekends. The reason for such high frequency is because this is the only bus route to serve Walmart which is in Kearny. People from Newark/Harrison/Kearny and JC will want to go to Walmart. It also is the only bus route besides the #1 to go to Jersey City from Newark but most people will still take PATH. New residents along Harrison Av and Downtown Newark would want to go to Journal Sq to transfer to PATH and to Walmart for shopping. Buses will run on Newark Av in Jersey Av serving the  Little India strip there. 

University Heights. 

The bus route running from Newark Penn going on a loop throughout University Heights. Buses start at Newark Penn then run on Raymond until Washington and turn on Central and then MLK and to Orange and to Norfolk and then to Warren St to University Av and back onto Raymond. Buses will be fare-free and run every 4-6 min on Rush hour and then every 5-7 min at other times. Buses will also be wrapped to to indicate that it's the University Heights bus and will serve NJIT and Rutgers on Warren. Should be run by the City of Newark. 

Unrelated to this, I think there should be a bus route that loops around the Ironbound District to the Harrison PATH station via the Jackson Bridge. Would runs along Ferry St to Magazine and then to Wilson Av and to Lafayette St to Jackson St. Would properly serve the Ironbound residents heading to Jersey City/NYC. 

I hope you like this analysis. I have never done this before and IDK if I did good or not. I would like to heard your guys opinion on this topic at hand. 

See you later.

I'm surprised that this thread is still active LOL

17 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

Stop trolling.....

It's enough that you have buses having to deal with congestion on the main roads....

Way I see it, simply put, I'm not going to advocate for a route running along Manhattan's congested side streets..... Such a bus would actually move slower than the M34/a!

Furthermore, an injection of a 27th/28th st route into the network would solve absolutely nothing..... Last thing it needs is a lesser utilized M8 & M50.

I assume maybe that some people will probably use it. The Museum of Sex seems to be tourist attraction in NYC and the bus would transport people to/from the subway to the MoSex. Others might use the bus to go see those live shows that aired in the middle of the day. Kips Bay Court is a Apartment building. The bus could provide service from there to the 3 subway stops along 28th St. Also I did not make up this route just so I could troll. I Just made up the route for fun

2 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

a 27/28th st crosstown would be useless. Who would want to do that? What's the ridership draw? At least the M50 has Rock center...

The ,, and  have subway stops at 28th St. Kips Bay Court,POPSugar HQ,Museum of Sex and the place were the Wendy Williams and Racheal Ray Show is filmed are all on 28th St.

2 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

I don't think Canal Street should warrant a crosstown. The amount of traffic that flows through that area is horrendous.

I'm not trying to knock down your idea. However, on any given day canal turns into a parking lot any day of the week including overnights, and weekends.

Also, what type of market are you creating with this route?

I think that the M21 has the same problem with traffic

The Canal St Crosstown could provide Lower East Side residents better connecting to Lower Manhattan/Brooklyn. For example, Canal St has 5 subway stops (1,6,A.C,E,N,Q,R,W)  

2 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Canal St may work, but it would run similar to the M42, meaning it would probably run 0.5 mph the entire way and be wasted.

 

27/28 crosstown is too close to proximity with the M34/23. Plus too few connections to subways.

I was thinking of putting a bus lane on both Canal and Houston Sts

M32 

Canal St Crosstown 

Runs from West St/Canal St to Grand St/FDR 

I also wonder if an 27/28th St crosstown route would work. 

Both routes have subway stops 

Light Rail Idea 

Jamaica Sutphin Bl to Vernon Bl 

Stops: 

Vernon Bl  Subway Connection 

Maspeth Av 

Eliot Av 

Metropolitan Av Subway Connection 

Woodhaven Blvd 

Lefferts Bl Subway Connection 

130 St 

Jamaica Sutphin Bl Subway Connection  LIRR JFK AirTrain

Springfield Av Route 

IBOA will take over NJT's #25 

Newark Industrial Pk trips will be removed 

Springfield Av buses run from 43rd St to Newark Penn Sta/Essex County Corrections Ctr Buses run every 12 min Middays/Weekends 

Springfield Av Exp buses run from Maplewood to Newark Penn Sta Buses run every 12 min Middays/Weekends 

Buses will every 3-4 min on Rush Hour 

GO25 bus stops will stay and be labeled as Springfield Av Exp buses

43 minutes ago, njbus86 said:

Sorry for the long time in responding.  NJT used to run the 171 every 10 mins I believe at rush hour.  It was the Maplewood/Intercity Route 40 before NJT took over.  I have an old timetable from 1981 posted here:

http://njbus.blogspot.com/2012/12/maplewood-equipment-route-40-1981-this.html

 

 

It was actualy every 15-20 min 

     M40 

Major Streets:West End Av,W 24th St,11th Av,10th Av,W 45th St 

Buses Run from Chelsea Piers Terminal used by the M23 to W 106 St/Broadway 

Buses run every 10 min weekdays and every 15 min Weekends 7 Min Rush Hour 

Bus Depot:MJQ 

On 2/8/2018 at 8:51 PM, njbus86 said:

NJT used to run a lot more service on the 171 until the Jitneys started running, I believe some time in the 80s.  It used to run every 20 mins on Saturdays.  I believe this is one instance where a private enterprise, although shaky, just ran a better business model than NJT by running smaller vans more frequently and less expensive along Route 4.  I agree with many of the comments that they drive like maniacs, aren't necessarily well maintained.  It would be great if they could get some new and safer equipment and perhaps even coordinate with NJT in that regard since there is an obvious market for this kind of service.  

Well said but how was service during rush hour and weekedays back then

The reason I took the jitney was because I didn't want to be on a crowded PATH Train going to Journal Square just to go on another crowded train to Newark

I rode a Bergenline bus from Newport Mall to Journal Square Wednesday and the ride was not that bad. The seats were clean and well maintained and the driver was talking to what I assume was a passenger that takes the jitneys regularly IDK If that illegally or not but they do that on NJT Buses. It was a surprisingly nice ride. 

For The Tablet/Mobile Version of Trainz  Are Any Of The MTA Routes Available For Download On Mobile or Is It PC/Computer Only 

I Have Made Maps For My Routes 

Bergen/1st St: 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1dD28kHbxBpyvJ1RrddbJ4De9T0_CIVb3&usp=sharing 

Harrison Ave: 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1VzZTY9STZHUeCXxr__1qqmXyJ4CpiHC4&usp=sharing 

Bergen St Exp: 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1dD28kHbxBpyvJ1RrddbJ4De9T0_CIVb3&usp=sharing 

Westfield/Kenilworth To PABT: 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1MxKtGYJmoVvcOKvtZhrJQZVrzZXs9CDT&usp=sharing 

Lakeview Av: 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1ioN3pVgz1RufShB8eRo9gv7byr2GM4si&usp=sharing 

Monroe/Madison To PABT Via Hamilton Park: 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1GMFG2NYtF1baatQlhdld97F3GO9RudP1&usp=sharing 

Clinton Hill: 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1oZKrTyHigazv4GwzPjcazImiJkB1xaZh&usp=sharing

On 11/13/2017 at 8:45 PM, go25 said:

So what you are proposing the 13 to Penn Station?

No I'm Propsosing An IBOA Route and It goes on Hawthrone Av Actually 

For The Frequency Of This Route Buses Will Run Every 10 Min Scheduled But Buses Might Run Every 7 Min On Rush Hour  Cause Buses Especially Ones That Are Run by Private Operators LOL. The Fare Will Be 75 cents Dollars Will Be Accepted. 

I have an idea for an New Bus Route: Clinton Hill This Route Will Go From Newark Penn Station To Fabyan Pl/Clinton Av. Via Washington/Broad St,Spruce St,Irvine Turner Blvd,Hawthorne Av,Ridgewood Av and Fabyan Place Buses Will Relay From Fabyan Pl at Clinton Av To S 19 St and turn on Avon Av To S 18 St Back To Fabyan Pl at Clinton Av. Buses Will Run Frequency On Rush Hour But Every 20 Min Middays and Weekends. The Destination Sign For Buses On This Route Will Be. 

Clinton Hill 

Newark Penn Sta

When Is The Next Route Become SBS After The Q52/Q53