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+Young+ Thanks for all the info you provided. From what you said it would seem that they are using a raw score method. So as in your example, if there were 80 questions & an applicant managed to get 65 correct, their score would be 81%, then any other points to be awarded would be added. My only experience with any of these exams was a state exam, which used a raw score, to then get a banded score for ones final score on the exam. Good information to know. At 80 questions it will require 56 corect answers to hit the 70% minimum hopefully that is achievable. So the first milestone, after the exam will be the release of the answer key, correct? Saw here [http://web.mta.info/nyct/hr/proposed_answerkey.htm]that some TA exams taken in March '17 the answer keys were released 2 months later, is this the fair timeline for the answer key release? Guess at any point the after key is released, the list can be established. That might be where the long wait stands. Are eligible lists made public like the state does? ie https://www.cs.ny.gov/elmspublic/all/list.cfm?Exam=37356 I have tried searching for MTA eligible lists online to see the layout/format & date ranges for lists but other than that pdf you linked I have not seen any. How long do the TA eligible lists last for if you know offhand? Anyway thanks again, do appreaciate the background info. Hoping that way less than 1000 are taking it, 500 perhaps.

Anyone know how the TA scores their exams? Is it by the same standard as most other state/municipal exams? Where the raw score is then banded & that gets the final score [plus any Vet points etc] First time dealing with a TA exam. Thanks in advance. >> Pulled the faq below off on another site in regards to civil service exams, just wondering if TA uses the same method or if it differs. "How are test scores on a written civil service test determined? First, the raw score is determined, which is generally the number of questions the candidate answers correctly. After the results are analyzed, a band score table is constructed for the test. The band score table is then applied to the raw score to determine the final score. Typically, a band score covers a range of scores and bands are reported in five point increments. This method of scoring is called band scoring. Fro example: A range of raw scores from 45 to 47 are assigned a band score of 80. If you received a raw score of either 45,46, or 47, your final score would be 80."

"Interesting...so from your experience, if someone gets a passing score but does not have the relative work experience, what are the chances of him/her getting a position?" Passing is the most imperative of things, there are priorities given for certain types of prior experiences relative to those open "analyst" positions. From the test posting: "Selective Certification for Education and Special Experience: If you have the education or experience listed below, you may be considered for appointment to positions requiring this education or experience through a process called Selective Certification. If you qualify for Selective Certification, you may be given preferred consideration for positions requiring this education or experience. If you have any of the degrees or experience listed below, indicate on the Education and Experience Verification Form the title of your degree(s) or your experience." By passing the Analyst Trainee exam, one gets onto a list for any first level analyst position, those being a mix of "trainee", "staff analyst 1" etc. For those first level analyst roles, passing will likely get you access without expereince. So definetly it is possible to get a trainee/level 1 spot, if you look on the mta job site there tends to be quite a few at those levels. So passing is the key to getting a possible entry. With the passing score at 70%, if a large pool of candidates happen to pass, then it's likely a long waiting game ahead past scoring. But passing and being on a list is worth the possibility if & when something further occurs. If you happen to have relative work experience, it is possible to interview for "non trainee/level 1" positions even if you are not on the list, but the odds on getting the job seems low. Interviewed for several Associate Analyst positions & realized that those already in TA (transfers/promos) & list eligibles have priority vs. any outside candidates. So being on the list has its advantages. These analyst roles range widely, some are purely administrative, others are specialized, some are a mix of both. Browsing a few "analyst" openings on mta site will show the wide range of the job roles. Sorry if that response was a bit lengthy.

There are quite a few titles/positions that the exam likely will allow access to if one has the required passing score & the relative past working experience in certain areas [ie.Accounting/Finance, Engineering/Security Management/Industrial Psy] [these below are all from mta analyst job postings ] Associate Staff Analyst $72,835 - $94,307 Assistant Transit Management Analyst II: $64,433 ~ $71,762 Assistant Transit Management Analyst I: $55,493~ $65,696 Assoc. Staff Analyst (OA): $72,835 - $94,307 Assoc. Staff Analyst (TA): $70,064 - $90,716 (New Hire Rate: $60,925) Staff Analyst II (OA): $64,433 - $71,762 Staff Analyst II (TA): $61,981 - $69,030 (New Hire Rate: $53,897) Staff Analyst I (OA): $55,493 - $65,696 Staff Analyst I (TA): $53,378 - $63,195 (New Hire Rate: $46,416) Staff Analyst Trainee II (OA): $46,955 - $52,170 Staff Analyst Trainee II (TA): $45,164 - $50,183 (New Hire Rate: $39,273) Staff Analyst Trainee I (OA): $43,474 - $46,082 Staff Analyst Trainee I (TA): $41,820 - $44,326 (New Hire Rate: $36,365) While I can say from experence that you can get called for an interview for these analyst positions by applying online and not being on an eliglible list, the odds of landing the job/s seems tough. By not being on the list, one tends to be on the low priority side versus those on an eligible list or someone inside TA already who is transfering/upgrading/switching positions. By passing the exam & getting on the list one has a better shot. Applying online, sometimes it takes 4 months for a callback, but it does happen, but odds are against getting one of the analyst jobs without passing the exam & landing on a list. Also I think there is a legal obligation to place individuals on the lists into those positions as they open. Seems the last trainee test was back in 2007, doesn't happen often apparently. Not sure how long a duration exists from exam to scoring to list number placement, but I would lean to it being a wait on the longer side. Taking the exam, but not really expecting much to materialize from it in the near term, 6-12months out maybe something comes of it if one passes.