LGA Link N Train

by LGA N AirTrain, who should be posting here:

 

I think I mentioned something similar with the running to Bensonhurst bay Pkwy, but with the abandonment of the DSC for that area, it's for naught.

Ummm... ok and my profile name is LGA Link N train, where did you get "AirTrain" from??

 

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But why

Starters, Nassau is Heavily underutilized

Next, people in Williamsburg want a ride to midtown

A reduced need for the would be in effect

A better system integration for the Second Avenue Subway

 

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Random thought, what if the and/or train replaced the and trains and the and maybe a new or train ran to the manhattan bridge and replace the south of Chambers Street (Note- that means expanding the Fulton Center and Broad Street Platforms) since R32's and R42's are banned from Montague,then in Brooklyn the can replace the the can replace the and a third second avenue train, maybe an or (U) train, could run via Fulton Street via Montague Street or under 4 Avenue. The  could go back to Nassau, IDK

Upcoming weekend planned service changes for September 2017

 

Trains run via the in both directions between W 4 St and 21 St-Queensbridge

 

Sep 15-18 11:45PM Fri to 5AM Mon Free shuttle buses provide alternate service between court sq 23st and 21st queensbridge stopping at Queens plaza

 

No trains between Crescent St and Jamaica Center

 

Sep 9-10,Sep 16-17 3:45AM Sat to 10PM Sun Free shuttle buses provide alternate service

 

No trains between Church Av and Stillwell Av

 

Buses operate between Church Av and Stillwell Av*, stopping at Ditmas Av, 18 Av, Avenue I,

Bay Pkwy, Avenue N, Avenue P, Kings Hwy, Avenue U, Avenue X, Neptune Av and W 8 St.

 

From 8 AM to 10 PM, some buses operate between Church Av and Kings Hwy, Saturday and Sunday,

Sep 16 - 17.

 

Service operates in two sections and is rerouted in Manhattan

 

trains and free shuttle buses provide alternate service

Weekend, 11:30 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Sep 15 - 18

 

No service at 7 Av, 47-50 Sts, 42 St-Bryant Pk, 34 St-Herald Sq, Grand St and DeKalb Av.

 

service operates in two sections:

1. Between 205 St and B'way-Lafayette St, and via the to/from 2 Av

• Trains run via the local in both directions between 125 St and W 4 St.

2. Between Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and Stillwell Av

• Trains skip Union St, 4 Av-9 St and 25 St in both directions.

 

Buses operate between W 4 St and Grand St, stopping at B'way-Lafayette St.

 

 

No trains between Gun Hill Rd and 241 St

 

Free shuttle buses provide alternate service

Weekends, 11:45 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Sep 15 - 18 • Sep 22 - 25 • Sep 29 • Oct 2

 

service operates between Flatbush Av and Gun Hill Rd.

Buses operate between Gun Hill Rd and 241 St, stopping at 219, 225, 233 Sts, Nereid Av and 241 St.

 

• Transfer between trains and buses at Gun Hill Rd.

 

 

No trains between Bedford-Nostrand Avs and Court Sq

 

Sep 9-10

That's a lot for one weekend

 

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Every car since the last R142A was delivered has been CBTC ready from day 1. That includes EVERY R143, R160, R179 and R188.

 

To create a new acronym: YANM.

What about the R142's? ??

 

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Probably the 207 Street yard

 

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I believe that the remaining R32 (that won't be retired during the Canarsie Tube shutdown) will be transferred over to the A train.

So that they can go to the Rockaways, I'm supportive of that as for some R46's, I'd put them on the and lines during the shutdown

 

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Wouldn't they all have to be 10 car sets if that happens

 

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Also, these 140 sets could most likely go to one of the main 4 south Brooklyn branches (most likely Brighton) or the Rockaways

 

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Re-enable the last step of Field Shunting, and they don't have to go anywhere. That would make sense, so it will never happen.

 

Back to the C, unless they throw a curveball, and it's the B.

Wouldn't they all have to be 10 car sets if that happens

 

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And another Question. Who thinks that renovating Chambers Street on the will be worth it????

 

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Should have never neutered the SMEE's to begin with. Bring back field shunting already. Their performance would be right there with the NTT's. They were all quite peppy back then.

So where do the (140 or so) R32's go during the train shutdown??

 

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As much as anyone here would love to agree with you, to renovate Chambers St would be more expensive than renovating any other subway station serving a single line in the system pretty much due to its size.

Funny and yet sad to think that this was one of the major masterpieces of the BMT really. While a renovation isn't guaranteed, ADA accessibility for the platforms is planned so that's something.

Yeah, but sooner or later, the is going to have to deal with it

 

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The original plan for chrystie when built was to allow SAS, when built, to become "local" tracks at Grand St and converting the side platforms into island platforms. The section of SAS tunnel originally built by the Manhattan bridge was aligned for this. Is this possibly what you're asking about?

 

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A better alignment

 

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Simple point, once the R179 orders are complete, then there should be about 140-160 R32's left, so might as well just keep them on the at that point

 

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Here's an important Question, why won't the MTA Renovate Chambers Street on the train, it look DISGUSTING, HORRIBLE, OH AND DID I MENTION THAT IT IS ONE OF THE WORST STATIONS IN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM???? Despite the having low ridership in Lower Manhattan, can they at least attempt to renovate chambers Street

 

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Yeah, or more transit museum space (which would be nice because then you could take a the subway to it).

I would love for that but for some reason I feel that it could be used for something better

 

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Nothing. They're redundant now.

 

And for whoever asked how we make the Nassau line more attractive, you'd have move offices to Lower Manhattan. Which, seeing as we're neither socialist nor Washington DC, won't happen.

 

Things change. Yeah it's sad that there's abandoned trackage, but such is the nature of progress. Deal.

Deal, however there could be suggestions to turn that into an underground park similar to the low line

 

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I've got a new PDF for the cycle between August 18th-24th, 2017 on OneDrive:

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AlW-ZYlueHvEhNUtdWLRfDvJ0jf3OQ

 

Some service updates have strayed columns to accommodate the increasing numbers of updates per line. Some may have changes that apply to multiple lines. Look for the Also (*) for those kinds of details.

This morning, I had a weird commute to Manhattan, first trains were running to Jamaica 179 Street yet people still got off at Forest Hills. Then at Forest Hills, I got on an train that went via 53 St/8 Av. Once I got off at 42 Street, the was on the express track. I was like "What the heck is going on, is this what I get for not checking the weekender???" But I gotta say, this was a very interesting service change, but Manhattan bound trains should run to 63 Street since they're running express this weekend

 

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Would like one of those weekends where the is Queens Boulevard express, Broadway express, via Manhattan Bridge, and 4 Avenue express

The this weekend is the Queens Blvd/59 Street/Broadway/Manhattan Bridge/4 Avenue Express in the Bay Ridge direction yet local on the Jamaica Bound direction

 

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Ummm... ok

 

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So leave the line as is and just rehabilitate Chambers Street Station????

 

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But then if you were to make use of the Abandoned Bowery and Canal Sts, what would they be used for (and please don't say employee purposes)

 

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Why would you want to make service along Nassau Street more popular? With the exception of the rush hours there's no real reason to travel on that line. Anyone traveling along the 4th Avenue Line or Brighton corridor along the stretch from Prospect Park to DeKalb Avenue already has options to reach that area. Look back at the travel patterns since 1967 or the Mid-Eighties 'til 9/11. Outside of the rush hours there wasn't any clamor for service on the line. Even with the original WTC still standing. You seem to want to put those tracks to use but the potential ridership, today and in the past, say you're wasting your time and costing the money. Carry on.

Ummm... ok

 

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Why would you want to make service along Nassau Street more popular? With the exception of the rush hours there's no real reason to travel on that line. Anyone traveling along the 4th Avenue Line or Brighton corridor along the stretch from Prospect Park to DeKalb Avenue already has options to reach that area. Look back at the travel patterns since 1967 or the Mid-Eighties 'til 9/11. Outside of the rush hours there wasn't any clamor for service on the line. Even with the original WTC still standing. You seem to want to put those tracks to use but the potential ridership, today and in the past, say you're wasting your time and costing the money. Carry on.

So leave the line as is and just rehabilitate Chambers Street Station????

 

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There are a few reasons why this won't work.

 

1) R32s and R42s are banned from Montague.

 

2) Any line that goes to South Brooklyn would be subjected to the notoriously bottlenecked Dekalb Interlocking.

 

3) Nassau is not popular with riders. Look at how empty the old "(M)" was between Chambers and Bay Pkwy.

 

4) You need to send the "(J)" with the "(Z)" to keep the current skip-stop service.

 

5) There aren't enough cars for it at the moment. It could only work after the 211's are in, but even so, why waste the money?

I want to look for a solution to make service more popular on the Nassau Street subway, and If R32's and R42's are banned from Montague then how can service be improved or more attractive in Nassau Street cause it has very low ridership? ???

 

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I want to look for a solution to make service more popular on the Nassau Street subway, and If R32's and R42's are banned from Montague then how can service be improved or more attractive in Nassau Street cause it has very low ridership? ???

 

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And, might as well look for a way to rebuild the Dekalb Avenue Junction

 

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LGA N Train: Again, you cannot spilt up the "(J)" or the "(Z)" or else they will become separate lines.

That's the idea, just increase the capacity in both of them, I see a potential where the and the would Separate

 

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MTA considered that for the SAS EIS but chose to not do it due to the cost and disruption to area residents.

Why is the EIS still in effect???

 

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Here’s a crazy proposal that’ll never happen, but is an interesting thought nonetheless.

 

So, it’s no secret that the Nassau Line is considerably underused (has two abandoned tracks) and lacks is probably the most under maintained. Well, if Phase 3/4 gets going on the SAS, here is my proposal: Instead of terminating the down in Hanover Square (which would only further reduce the number of Nassau passengers), you could combine it down a newly renovated Nassau Avenue Line.

 

Here’s what I suggest: Close the on Nassau Avenue for 3-5 years, and completely renovate the line from top to bottom. It would be considerably less expensive, since all the structure is in place and there would be an extra incentive to renovate the Nassau Avenue Line (the extra passengers.)

 

While the Nassau Avenue Line is being renovated, you could combine the and the , by running the down through W4st, Christie St, and running the route between Essex Avenue and Jamaica Center.

 

Then, when the Nassau Line is fully renovated, the Teal will run down to the new Broad St with the . Far out there, but thoughts?

I might as well have the terminate at Chambers and Have the (if it still exists at this time) run down to Broad St or further

 

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You have read the forum rules right? Necroposting is frowned upon.

Oh, my bad

 

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