Just New York

49 minutes ago, gravescend179 said:

I always wondered , how come the subway cars are never in numerical order ?

Some cars might need extra work once a car is ready it can be sent to the Agency. 

5 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

Oh, that much I get - I'm not taking issue with a B83 clear along Penn, or having the B20 serve Van Siclen....

The point I was making, is that drawing up a circuitous B84 of sorts would almost be as useless as the real B84...

Spring Creek patrons primarily use the B13 to get to the & the , and the B15 to get to the .... They don't take B14's to the in any significant numbers because they're taking A's/C's/J's to B'way Junction & xferring to the from there - and for damn sure they're not riding (basically) the full route to Utica for the .... I mean, all this talk about running the B14 to that little community in question down there is not worth it - Even if it means revoking it from the postal facility... The B14 dies at the northern end of the Cypress houses for a reason & it's not because of lack of coverage in Spring Creek..... Buses would be much better off turning up from Sutter to, at minimum, directly serve Euclid av subway....  

I'd rather do away with the B84 & redistribute the resources necessary to operate it elsewhere; lost cause AFAIC... However, if the onus is to not eliminate it, I happen to agree with you... If there's a need to have buses serve that small community adjacent the eastern end of the postal facility, it should be done with the B84 & not the B14.

That for the elderly you have the western Beef on new lots plus other shops. Pennsylvania does not need 3 buses to the Juction you also help the No non ADA  stations. A lot of people would use the B84 to Navigate that side of ENY as your connecting major shopping points.

On 11/22/2018 at 8:58 PM, B35 via Church said:

Spring Creek residents en masse simply aren't utilizing the thing.....

I personally think the B84 is one huge slap in the face for everyone that takes the bus in that general region of Brooklyn... Those 2 buses should've been used as fodder for other pre-existing routes....

You have the [B20 doing the current B83 routing B'way Junction & Van Siclen/Wortman] & you have the [B83 running clear along Penn]... Much of nobody around the Linden & Penn-Wortman houses would take a bus that backtracks to New Lots like that.... They would gun for your modified B20 or your B83....

Ridiculous.

You are the last person I want to hear complaining about your mail not promptly being delivered....

Running buses through the USPS distribution center... smh...

It was also an inconvenience for those who worked graveyard at JFK.... Good riddance.

You help the B20 ridership plus streamline Pennsylvania ave. Starrett City definitely has a good chuck of the ridership of the B83 so you actually save both routes time. Anybody that live Between the Juction and New Lots Av still can use either routes. Linden, Blvd, Fairfield  residents will all use the B20 now instead of the B83 which will be much faster now that will help attract people to use it more to Gateway. 

1 hour ago, East New York said:

No they didn't. They were loaners, and that is all.  UP was going through a fleet shortage, so for you to say that you rode them regularly may have been true but they were still ENY buses. EN also had several trippers and put-ins on FP and UP routes back then. They were NEVER permanently assigned to UP though. They had 23 loaners during the 2004 shortage, that lasted until rebuilds came back and things could rotate around. And it was 8671-8693 to be exact since you want to get all technical.

So you may need to actually check your facts sir. You tried that...... 🤨

These don't count as I said and mentioned over the years. These were just bus company supplements as they were retired from Transit.

You are almost spot on. Those were delivery loaners that were always meant for Quill (Westside at the time), very similar to how Bus got brand new loaner XD60's that are meant for Transit. 8600-8671 all went to 100 first. 8640-70 then later moved to AMS, then they all went home to Westside.

And yes every RTS from 8600+ came in with DDs50's, with the exception of the Cummins batch.

This is true as we have discussed this before, however the few only went to Bus because they were being retired out of TA. So technically this doesn't count. 

This is true, and this is the reason it was so easily implemented.

Definitely was longer then a fleet shortage some never went back to ENY, power trip is crazy on here lol.

44 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

The only 93-94 buses that were (barely related) to 8600-8703 at LGA were a few 8400's and one 8500. Unless it was very brief, I doubt any 8600's moved to MTA bus.

http://gallery.bustalk.info/displayimage.php?pos=-16627

8611 on the Q35

http://gallery.bustalk.info/displayimage.php?pos=-19515

That is 8651 on the Q60 I remember that as well.

3 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Oh I see now. I apologize since you are showing proof of it and I doubted you 

That old news though there was never a doubt . You might need more fact checks for next time.

6 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Those buses never left ENY or MQ. And I do serious research on historical bus rosters so I would know.

I remember riding 8682, 8686 a lot on the B6 only 20 made it to UP 8671-8690.

http://gallery.bustalk.info/displayimage.php?pos=-6164

28 minutes ago, East New York said:

 

Lord knows I probably shouldn't be saying this, but let's finally put the truth out there once and for all.

That was actually something Quill made up a long time ago. Quill and ENY have a love affair that dates back to first delivery.

The Governor said he wanted all the RTS gone a couple years ago. The TA started the retirement, but when Quill and ENY were up there was a major problem. ENY lost all of theirs, then told TA they needed them back or they couldn't promise reliable service, and went from 0 to 60 in 3 days. Quill told TA they couldn't afford to lose them because they were the only buses that could safely operate on the M66 and M72, as no new bus had been approved yet.  

Yeah.... Ok... I never commented on any of this till today because I am a die-hard RTS fan myself, so I just went along with all the grand legendary stories as well. I have just been amazed that for all these years the "height restriction" really worked seeing as express buses travel crosstown 7 days a week. lmao

And ENY not being able to make service if they don't have RTS'. That was even more funny that the M66/72! They basically said they need one on standby for every route in the depot. 😂

Or what about this one.... The best RTS fleet the city ever saw were arguably 8600-8703. They ended up being the ONLY non-specialized fleet (i.e CNG) in history to never be rotated through the city or even to 1 other depot.

EN and Quill got together and said "well this is the smallest batch of RTS buses we have gotten, so they need special attention." 

As an RTS fan, I find it hilarious that no one ever challenged any of these facts, and personally I'm glad no-one did. They would have been retired years ago. 

~Let that sink in.......

The 86xx did leave ENY for UP, MJQ’s never left.

I had high hopes for my area when they created the B84 there’re under utilizing the line.

Just my thoughts.

B20 Ridgewood/ Postal Fac 

Current Route Between Ridgewood- New Lots/ Penn Av

New Lots, Van Siclen, Wortmen

Current route to Postal Fac

B83 Boadway Junction/ Gateway Mall Via Penn Av

Current route Between Bway Junction- New Lots/Penn Av 

Straight On Penn, Current route To Gateway.

Rush Hour Peak Direction service via Vandalia, Van Siclen, Flatlands Av, Penn AV.

B84 New Lots Av-ENY/ Gateway Mall 

Current Route Between Gateway Mall-Flatlands/ Jerome.

WB

Straight on Flatlands, Right In Van Siclen, left  Wortmen, Right Penn Av, Right New Lots, Right Ashford, Left Hegemen, left Cleveland to New Lots Station.

EB 

Laviona Straight, Left Penn Av, Left Wortmen, Right Van Siclen, Left Flatlands Current Route to Gateway Mall.

4608 on Loan UP

45 minutes ago, BreeddekalbL said:

Any truth I heard a rumour that 0017 had a catastrophic failure?!

Nope 

On 10/6/2018 at 1:25 PM, The TransitMan said:

YEP! Looks like they are replacing those NGs on the S79 SBS. About time!

So no Manhattanville, COULD mean that the Novas will bump NGs at Gun Hill and Kingsbridge to Manhattanville.

If my math is correct the Bronx would have about 55 NG left, Do those also get swapped out should be interesting.

45 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said:

Just want to remind a few folks: Many moons ago Ulmer Park had the 70xx series NG's. So Ulmer Park is capable of having NG's in their garage.

Like I indicated yesterday in a previous post Ulmer Park in the Brooklyn Division has a say to which buses enter their garage. 

The Department of Buses (DOB) has the overall say and may put a bait and switch and have Ulmer Park receive NG's from the Bronx and or Staten Island. The other issue I have is through observations that when Ulmer Park runs short of buses they get Flatbush NG's and Fresh Pond NG's and a bus from Gleason to make service.

I say Ulmer Park before East New York. The last time I saw East New York utlize a NG was 4596 and 4598 went to ENY for a brief stint back in the day.

The 70xx are diesel not hybrids 

It did 7679 was the First bus 

The reason service was removed from flatlands Av between Rockaway Pk & East 103rd there is no demand. Most of us Canarsie residents use the B6 or B103. The old B50(B82) handle flatlands ok just like the Current B82. When the B60 got extend it became over kill. The B82 used the same pattern as the B60 only the B6 serverd Glenwood Between Rockaway & E 103 until the late 90’s.

sb the B11 once serverd the other side of flatlands for a Bit.

3 minutes ago, Novabus 5000 said:

Have a seat, because no one in here is a mind reader to know that's what you meant. 

1 hour ago, Metro CSW said:

You're the one jumping to the conclusion that 10 new buses would replace 125 BUSES of said hybrids. Just sayin' "Bro"..... ☺️

 

Jesus..... I don't want to hear the "mind your business" bull crap because you walked right into it on a public message board site.... Honestly~

I don’t do this forum tough thing I’m not part of the new generation. Just watch your mouth towards me and we are good. I’m not a foamer I’m very aware of everything on this board.

13 minutes ago, Jdog14 said:

 

They were only clarifying. This comment isn't necessary. 

Bro most people in here can read y’all so sensitive when you get called out. Stop jumping so fast to tell people what right or wrong this is a hobby learned to be humble.

1 hour ago, Novabus 5000 said:

No sir. This order is only for 10 buses, 9500-9509. The next order for 275 buses (9510-9784) will come in next year to replace those.

1 hour ago, Calvin said:

They aren't replacing those buses, only 10 on the order

Relax y’all to hype to have info that means the next process is close. This is a hobby not your job you do to much as if your the only ones who get info or know what happen. 

1 hour ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

9505 arrived at JFK facility with New York City Transit logos

Say goodbye buy to those 63xx & 64xx

5 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

SIX types of consists, that is (separating CBTC from non-CBTC R-160A's).

The CBTC R160A can run on all eastern division lines no need to separate.

3 hours ago, Just New York said:

 

UP must be short 404-JG, 4945-FB, 5208-GA are their

Add 4948, 5055 to the List on the B3 & B6

4 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

4581 back to FB

45 minutes ago, RTSTdrive said:

Something unheard of in a while but JG C40LF 404 is on the B6 as I speak

UP must be short 404-JG, 4945-FB, 5208-GA are their

23 minutes ago, Transbusfan said:

This bus 4581 does not need to be recharged like a full electric bus like the XE40/BE40, so that bus could be transferred to or used by any depot.. Its a hybrid bus that generates its own power via a generator attached to the engine which charges the batteries on the roof that powers the electric drive unit that moves the bus..

At some point you have to recharge the battery which can not be maintained by UP. So being housed at UP is not happen with out that station, DH to FB to recharge probably won’t be happening. Thanks for the lesson of the Brake system and power system. 

28 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said:

Does it have Ulmer Park decals or Flatbush?

37 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

Either Flatbush has full length trippers on the B1 now or 4581 is at Ulmer Park, cause its on the B1 to 4th Avenue right now...

Most likely a loaner UP does not have a recharge station.

6 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said:

There’s something about this Dekalb Avenue SBS I really don’t like. We’re talking about a central part of Brooklyn where congestion is bad and fare evasion is rampant. If this dedicated SBS made a few stops in Ridgewood/Maspeth to the BQE into Downtown Brooklyn than I’d buy it. (I thought that was the original plan) 

The biggest issue I have is the B6. 

A) Fully duplicating the B82 

B) There’s a portion of Glenwood Road that can be used exclusively for the B6 in Canarsie 

C) As East New York mentioned to me earlier is the dwell times along the 6. 

The problem with the B6 is Av J, Glenwood road(Between Albany & Nostrand , Av H. Taking the B6 off flatlands in Canarsie is not going to work. Most of us are not walking from Glenwood to flatlands so let’s see.