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24 minutes ago, Kamen Rider said:

it's kinda already started:

Es are running to whitehall Street, suspending the W.

Fs are southbound on the Crosstown line.

 

With the J and M GO tonight, life is going to get interesting on the LES tonight. 

Right now, the  has to serve as an alternative to the other Brooklyn IRT routes to varying degrees, which could put more pressure on some parts of the B Division, so I'd have to agree with that sentiment.

41 minutes ago, Kamen Rider said:

I think they did it once, and only once, because circumstances warranted it... BUT... That was a specific situation that isn't present here. Longer we make the line, the more personel we need. We're already going to need a conductor for every train operator who already works the M on the weekends during the day on weekends, but we're also going to need complete extra crews. We're going to need a dispatcher at 57/6...

 

 a LOT of people seem to think "a longer line just means longer trips" without considering all the extra factors. 

Not to mention that these day-specific branches (by that, I mean one branch receives all of the service on certain days while the other branch gets everything on others) aren't exactly desirable for regular service from a passenger's standpoint. It's bad enough that we have branches like the Rockaway Park  and the peak/reverse-peak  branches, and those only see a relatively small number of weekday trains.

Metra recently announced a contract awarded to Stadler for new battery-powered trains.

While the press release doesn't directly refer to the sets as FLIRTs, the phrasing of the last paragraph and Stadler's own video on the topic indicate that they are indeed FLIRTs.

8 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said:

I've noticed that issue got really bad since covid. People are so angry, they are just looking for any reason to verbally or physically assault anyone. Respect for others has gone to zilch since covid. I even heard a report on the news that some researchers are trying to measure levels of anger in the population because all these researchers have noticed anecdotally how much more angry people have become

I mean, have you seen the 20 years leading up to COVID smacking us in the face?

2 hours ago, Kamen Rider said:

The barriers have been added to Morgan Avenue, on the Manhattan bound platform.

 

the markings for them to be placed on the southbound platform are already there.

 

Source: my own two eyes, as I was working the L today.
 

(I was actually able to pick specific jobs for the major holidays this pick, all L jobs to make my life somewhat easy)

I noticed there's an entry for the Canarsie-bound platform's closure for Friday night through Saturday morning. I'm guessing that's to install the barriers.

37 minutes ago, IAlam said:

I mean using QB over the expressway like it expected to do. I saw them at the mall near Grand Ave.

Was there an incident along the LIE?

3 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

Bad idea.

AFAIK the Rockaway Park doesn't have higher ridership than the A. 

IMO the r179's and the r211's should only go to Rockaway Park during rush hours until a huge majority of the r46's are gone from the A.

Great.

That shuttle uses rolling stock like the M35 uses buses. It's not officially an artic route, but artics work just fine on it.

3 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Why don’t you just straight out say it, this isn’t wheel of fortune…

Exactly how much do you know about the ?

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

And end it where? 2nd?

Why don't you read what I said more carefully and think about what my word choice is hinting at?

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1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

I fully support an  extension but want it to 145th St & CPW on weekends to help out the .

The solution is to run the  on its truncated route as a local outside of Midtown.

2 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

The  should just be reduced to every 12 minutes weekends but extended to 57 St (or 96 St-2 Av when the 63 St reconstruction is done). The  alone on 6 Av don’t cut it and there could be ridership gains from having a full  service 7-days a week

Then run it to Forest Hills. 

2 hours ago, 40 to 241st said:

The fact that they want to use normal seated buses to replace the Orion V suburbans is pure crazy. 

Is it, though? Honestly, how many routes would even use them, and to what degree? The 3 sees respectable ridership between White Plains and 242nd Street, yet it tends to use the same buses as most routes despite its long express segment. Routes 1X, 43, and 62 are express variants of routes 1C, 40, and 60, so they'd be better off using the same buses as their local counterparts. How long routes 17, 28 (BxM4C), and 77 will last is a huge question mark, and the same can be said for route 10. Regular coach buses are far more likely to run into clearance issues, which means they can really only run on a single route (28), while buses with a single doorway and/or a high floor increase dwell times at bus stops.

44 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Lack of yard space? What???

Clifton is right down the road and you have all of the unused platform space at St. George for more storage.

Ah, yes, a bayside yard with relatively little storage space (if any exists), a maintenance facility that would likely need an expansion to handle the demands of North Shore service in addition to the existing service, and no real room to expand (because it's a bayside yard).

Do you plan to demolish all but two platforms for this? For that matter, how are you so certain that was never a consideration for current operations, to say nothing of what you're suggesting?

24 minutes ago, Captain iOS BeeSwarm said:

Will the R211Ts be retired after 10 years like the R110As and R110Bs were, or will they continue to run in regular service until it is time to retire the R211s? 

The R211Ts were built as part of a larger order. Unless something forces the other R211s into absurdly early retirement, it's highly unlikely these will be.

1 minute ago, B35 via Church said:

I didn't say anything about traffic.... It purposely crawls along Ocean & it's maddening.

That sounds like the route is padded to hell along Ocean Avenue.

1 hour ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

Wasn’t that whole thing just some political ploy to get the RTS’s to retire? I thought it bogus because each borough got its fair share of new buses between 2011 and 2019. 
ENY at the time already had a ton of XD40s, Jamaica already had 2015/2016 LFS’s, Ulmer Park had XD40’s and Quill which also had RTS’s had routes run through a lot of wealthy neighborhoods and were running on routes like the M66 and M72. 
Meanwhile nothing was said about ECH getting hand me downs for years. JFK & LGA collectively retired out a couple of fleets since takeover. Does anyone remember when JFK received the 1999-2001 D40HF’s and because they were in such bad shape they had to be transferred back to the city? But if those D60HF’s were known to be in bad shape why transfer them over? 

I'm pretty sure that was meant more to prep JFK for its own artics than anything else.

I think the highlighted 4 was supposed to be a 6. Touch screen shenanigans, perhaps?

23 minutes ago, ABOGbrooklyn said:

I followed Phillys Key System and it was rolled out much quicker than ours, yes their commuter rail roll out was late but they launched everything much quicker than the MTA.. and I get it, we're a much larger system but the amount of years wasted is ridiculous..

And it was plagued with problems, much like Ventra.

4 hours ago, U-BahnNYC said:

Why are we suddenly so concerned with smoke when we have old 75 footers running in service with no smoke alarms and no emergency intercoms/safety mechanisms?

I tried to give you a chance (against my better judgment), but you're just too far up your own ass.

1 hour ago, U-BahnNYC said:

Can someone explain to me how (lack of) "smoke alarms" pose a problem for the R211 running express? Correct me if I'm wrong but the R46/R68 do not have any smoke alarms to speak of onboard (with the amount of people smoking on trains nowadays I have not once heard a smoke alarm go off), and are arguably far more dangerous death traps because the storm doors are LOCKED and do not always open in emergencies. Why are the R46/R68 ever allowed to run if they are that unsafe, but the R211T's are somehow a safety hazard??

First, we literally do not have the rolling stock to sideline the 75-footers. Second, the R211Ts make it easier for smoke to travel between cars within sets.

On 1/25/2024 at 1:52 PM, jass said:

Absolutely zero brain cells involved.

Dwell time creates high costs. Management has never rideen a bus in their lives so they dont understand.

The railroads tend to see a mix of high and low platforms with little tangible effort in changing that to a single standard. The trains are high-floor.

I think that should tell you everything you need to know.

Regarding the Greenpoint Avenue leg of the current B24/proposed B53, is there any impression that people want to go to Woodside/Jackson Heights? I haven't used the B24 at all, so I have to ask.

12 minutes ago, limitednyc said:

B27/b62 combo was the old b61.

The proposed B27 is largely a portion of the old B75.

9 hours ago, zacster said:

From what I've seen of the barriers put in place at 191st St, they are putting the least amount of effort and money as possible, and planning on failure.  They don't want to do this so they are doing a half-fast job of it just to say they tried.  Those barriers won't stop anything and only even cover half the distance between columns.  What about the other half?

And why W 8th St?  The Q uses 75 footers and the F 60', but there is the occasional R160 on the Q and this would preclude them from using them at all.

Shanghai Metro by zacfi2000, on Flickr

This is what it should be if they are going to do it at all.  (That girl was looking at this grey haired old white guy taking a picture and probably had hardly seen any westerners before.)

If they lean that heavily into it now, it'll bite them hard in the ass later. The R62/As don't have door positions consistent with existing IRT NTTs and there's good reason to believe the  will get R142s when the R262s finally have significant presence. In addition, R142s could find their way over there now (they have before).

If you want to argue that it wasn't the smartest move to try them there, I'd agree, but there's not a lot of good places to test them before making any firm plans, especially since it'll be some time before we even begin to see the R262s (which, last I checked, don't even have a builder yet).

1 hour ago, QM1to6Ave said:

I'm LOLing that they require "an extremely precise stop" at these stations...as opposed to the usual "sort of precise" stop?

Depending on the circumstances, there could technically be a bit of leeway (not that this is meant to happen in practice).

The barriers eat into that leeway so much that even being just a couple of meters off means people may not be able to get on/off without having to reposition the train entirely. The differences in rolling stock will only exacerbate the issue (75-footers have fewer doorways in different positions relative to 60-footers, IRT NTT B/C cars have offset doors, unlike the SMEEs and NTT A cars). This also makes emergency egress far more difficult.

9 minutes ago, NBTA said:

Uh..so Presidents’ Day weekend, they’re shutting the  down between 116th Street and Dyckman. Anyone care to see what’s wrong with that sentence?

That would certainly be interesting to see.