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17 hours ago, CenSin said:

Looks like the schedule is not king after all. I got to Brighton Beach on time (5:56 AM). Conductor straight up said that supervision wants the train leaving 5 minutes later than scheduled (5:57 AM, the first  of the day to leave Brighton Beach).

lol

There was probably a good reason for that.

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

That’s so fun! When can we expect MTA to cancel CBTC work on QBL, since it obviously isn’t working!

Still chomping at that bit, I see...

22 hours ago, danielhg121 said:

Damn. The scheme looks really nice on the XE40. Seems like the bus can really takeoff too. 

Electric motors are good for that.

11 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

Even with all the cuts to the system, SCT's bus system is still too large to organically pull off timed connections at multiple/major xfer points in the network.... While well-intentioned, it's just not realistic.... Weird feeling, but in regards to this particular facet of the new network, I'm sitting back reading this sneering & chortling, while concurrently irritated.....

Maybe this could've been mitigated if the routes were generally scheduled to be twice as frequent as they are, but they insisted on capping frequencies at every 30 minutes with these (generally) long routes.

4 hours ago, Bill from Maspeth said:

"Buy America" is not nonsense because the manufacturing of the cars gives Americans jobs, rather than those jobs going overseas.

And there is no such thing as an "off the shelf design".  That is because even though the gauge may be standard, the clearance window varies from system to system.

 

 

Not to mention that we're talking about subway-oriented designs, not mainline railroad designs...

8 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

Does anyone know what the routing for this (unused?) version of the Bx23 would have been?

Is this authentic?

25 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

For Clifton yes, what about Richmond?

Clifton's primary issue is the curve, not the platform length. Richmond Valley is a different story, as that station needs platform extensions.

44 minutes ago, TMC said:

They’d actually get *more* trains.

The way I understand it, Whitehall Street and the S curve in the Financial District kneecap capacity for anything using that general stretch (~21 tph) far more than the branching and switching north of Herald Square (currently scheduled for 23-25 tph max). Please explain how 21 is greater than 23.

4 hours ago, xD4nn said:

8652 was tracking as 682 on the Q88. Is 682 actually at QV or is the tracker bugging out?

  

QV is a hefty distance from the J90. Wouldn't JA be a more reasonable depot or another depot in Brooklyn such as ENY or FP?

Subway shuttles can get their buses from pretty much anywhere in NYC. The buses used on the Lenox shuttles some months ago came from Flatbush and Gleason, among other places. I'd have to check my footage, but I may have seen a bus or two from Spring Creek, as well.

5 hours ago, JSLR7 said:

A simpler solution which I haven't seen brought up is to make the local and the express in Queens while keeping those two trains on 63rd and 53rd respectively. Yes, Queens would loose an express train on weekends, but so do other lines on the system (Broadway, Sixth Ave, Eastern Parkway), and the express trains on those lines don't seem to be overcrowded on weekends.

Yes, let's make a lower-frequency route with shorter trains that short-turns in Forest Hills the express while the route that is only shorter than the Rockaway  in length and serves Jamaica with full-length trains at a higher frequency becomes fully local. What could possibly go wrong?

39 minutes ago, slantfan4281 said:

I now get that you can't mess with Broadway or the yards, and that running the full  over the weekend is a nonstarter, but is doing a weekday only swap out of the question as well? 

Great, so everyone has to remember which branch the  will serve at what time. That won't cause any problems.

2 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

And this is exactly why politics should not have a say in transportation. 

Transportation is inextricably linked to politics.

6 hours ago, CenSin said:

Let it be known that I was an idiot this morning on the Brighton Line.

1. train has a door problem at Newkirk Plaza. train shows up. Okay. No biggie. I need to be at Chambers Street and would rather bet on the door problem clearing up than take the 2 extra stops.
2. Then the next arrives. Well… the door problem has got to be fixed soon right? I stay on the . I also see another holding behind us.
3. Then I see a arriving on the express track! Alright, so I run across the platform to the express . Surely that problem is going to take a while longer. The local leaves the station and the express holds in the station.
4. The that was stuck behind arrives across the platform. I get on that train instead after having been burned by 3 bad bets. And then… what do you know? It moves and crawls into Parkside Avenue. The express also started moving, pulling a little ahead of us.

I don’t know if it’s some kind of iron rule at the MTA, but it seems they do not like trains arriving out of order. They held that express and let the local one into Prospect Park first.

It's not just trains. Ask the bus people about overtaking their leaders.

14 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

 train commuters will be pissed because they get newer shiny NTT's instead of the old ones they have now?

Divide 75 by 4.

14 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

You probably didn't hear me the first time, it's not cost effective to give them R211's.

That's rather arbitrary.

13 minutes ago, xD4nn said:

QV is too far from QCC and too far from Forest Park

The B100 comes out of Spring Creek.

Recently, I've seen a few B41 trips signed up as Avenue P short-turns. When did that start? (Before you ask, no, I'm not seeing any evidence of these in the schedule, which was updated a few weeks ago.)

4 hours ago, Ale188 said:

In the Bronx, no  at Wakefield-241 St

Sep 19, Tuesday, 9:45 AM to 2:00 PM

 service runs between Flatbush Av-Brooklyn College and Nereid Av, the last stop.

For Wakefield-241 St, take the Bx39 bus via transfer at Nereid Av.

If you’re making another bus connection during your trip, please ask for a GO ticket from the station agent when exiting at Nereid Av or the bus operator when boarding at Wakefield-241 St.

What's happening?

Monthly signal maintenance

So yeah, part of the 2 is gone.

This is a planned change. They've been doing this for the past few months.

1 minute ago, Chris89292 said:

yesterday I was on a super hot car on the , this is very unacceptable, does the westchester yard even inspect their cars before putting them to passenger service? 

How many people were in the car?

33 minutes ago, N6 Limited said:

No LIRR cross honoring either.

I’m thinking from the prospective of those that would usually transfer at Broadway Junction to continue to Jamaica, not those along  Jamaica Ave or Fulton St.   They have the buses you’ve mentioned, and the Subway Shuttle.

How would that have worked?

Congratulations, you made no headway in your crusade.

1 hour ago, R32 3838 said:

they can't run them with the R44s, They aren't the same.

You'll need to elaborate.

1 hour ago, JustTheSIR said:

You know, I keep on hearing stuff about the 8 car sets being sent to ENY but does ENY even need, or can even hold that many 8 car sets? Why not throw some onto the Q for Phase 2, or something

feel free to roast me

Is the  chopped liver or something?

3 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

I get what your saying, but my point was more so with how fast they rushed it.

They should have tried it on a smaller trunk line like Culver between Bergen St & Avenue X. 
 

With QBL, they basically screwed over everybody with the exception of  riders who got an extra car. Broadway now has to deal with the failing R46’s, Queens Blvd now has to deal with the constant communication issues/CBTC shut down, etc etc.

The  may have more cars, but the difference in the number of cars doesn't translate to a meaningful change in train length.

Broadway would've been stuck dealing with the R46s even if QBL CBTC didn't happen. The pain would've just been spread to 6th Avenue instead of being concentrated on Broadway.

Speaking of QBL CBTC, the IND's signals are especially old and in desperate need of replacement. To add to that, the extremely busy nature of QBL operations makes it the perfect candidate for CBTC. What you're saying is that the can should've been kicked down the road, which would've led to severe disruption from failing signals along with still needing to replace them with a setup that was planned to replace existing signals. In fact, this is a learning experience for other quad-track lines. About the only other possible candidate for this sort of thing is 8th Avenue north of 59th Street, and that's nowhere near as busy or complex.

4 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said:

Just can’t stand seeing my home line filled with nothing but R46s. Keeps me from taking the train, and restricting myself to other transportation modes. Why can’t they run even one R160 and I can time my commutes around the scheduled? They do it with the  daily, so surely they have enough equipment to do so for the  too.

Oh, you mean that lone  to 96th Street? That's one train, which is nowhere near enough.

There is no conspiracy against you or others using the /. If you don't like the current rolling stock prospects, whatever, but the only thing keeping you from using the train is you. You've already made it perfectly clear, and in all honesty, I can't help but think several people are sick of your whining.

2 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

Honestly they shouldn't do it, considering that people aren't even paying. If I were running things, you'd get the following service based on how much farebeating there is going on:

**These changes are changes to currently scheduled service. If I make a note, this only applies to the time of day mentioned. Scheduled service outside of this window will remain as-is

 - no change

- Midday service cut to 10 minutes   

 train cut back to Bowling Green

 - every 6 minutes middays, no express Bronx Service - all trains to/from Pelham Bay Park

 - Every 6 minutes middays and weekend daytime hours

 - every 10 minutes per branch all times except rush hours and scheduling adjustments to make sure headways are even along the  route from 207 St to Rockaway Blvd

- Every 12 minutes middays

**Run  train evenings until 10:30PM or 11PM to/from 6 Av line stations

*  every 12 minute rush hours

 service every 8 minutes middays

* service every 12 minutes after 7PM 

 - every 8 minutes each middays. (Maybe even make  service every 8-10 minutes rush hours - remove Kings Highway / Church Av / Avenue X trips)

 - no change, except for restoring 8-minute headways between 7PM and 8PM (oddly reduced to every 10 minutes for that one hour)

 - every 10 minutes all times except rush hours and late nights

 - no change

 

*If farebeating persists:

remove  train

Cut  train to every 12-15 minutes

Scale  back to every 10 minutes 

Scale  service back to every 12 minutes middays, and adjust  service to every 8 minutes

Scale  service back to every 12 minutes middays (still run only between Bowling Green and Eastchester-Dyre Av)

 

 

So you'd willingly create a death spiral just to spite certain people.

Stay far away from transit planning.

2 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Why has the  not attempted to restart the ability to offer high-speed service on the subway? The R211's being designed for only 55 MPH while the R44's reached 77 MPH is embarrassing. 

How many places in the subway would even benefit from that? Even if you were to manage full deinterlining, you'd still have switches, curves, and stations to deal with, to say nothing of potentially higher frequencies. Higher speeds come with longer stopping distances and greater wear, two things you especially want to limit on a metro/subway line/system.