Ale188

8 minutes ago, Metro CSW said:

Obviously, you misspelled the word "everyone"....

Did i? DID I?

Anyway, why are we even talking about this? This is an R211 thread, not a 'Debate about if foamers are reliable' thread, alright?

18 hours ago, Comrade96 said:

foamers are not reliable sources...

They can be, it's just you don't think so.

55 minutes ago, Metro CSW said:

You're under the impression that the order will be delivered in perfect order by the numbers assigned? I almost feel sorry for the members here with OCD. .....Lmfaoo!

 

This is not truly exclusive to just one builder, you know.....

 

Why do I feel like you're throwing around rumors without any reliable sources to accompany it?

I'm not. I have a couple of useful sources. MTAISCOOL09 is actually a very reliable youtuber, also, some sites (not like Wikipedia) are reliable, too. Those are where I get my info from.

1 minute ago, FLX9304 said:

Only the first 20 cars are in order, after that, the orders are mixed up. They can jump from 4110-4114 to 4140-4144 in a heap 

Sounds like a 'Kawasaki only' thing! They basically do whatever they want with their rolling stock!

31 minutes ago, FLX9304 said:

See R142As in 1999, the R143s and the R160Bs. Kawasaki NEVER delivers the cars in sequential order, only when that set is ready, then that particular 5 car set gets delivered. 

OKAY, I didn't know that. I thought they were supposed to do it in order, but I guess when it's ready, it's ready. It's gonna get delivered.

3 minutes ago, FLX9304 said:

You can’t change the story around. Homeless ppl do NOT account for a train’s failure. The problem could be (I said this before)

1. Brakes not malfunctioning 

2. Propulsion issues

3. door malfunction 

4. bar links not put in proper place 

5. Damage to door/window

6. Misuse of operation 

My mistake. I know it had door malfunctions, though

4 minutes ago, FLX9304 said:

Actually April 10th was the last day. So April 14th had nothing to do with that. So whatever DJ Hammers says I’ll go with that 

It had to redo the test is what i feel like some of you are not getting. It rescheduled to do the tests on April 13th and redid it's first day on April 14th, and I believe day 30 is on May 14th. Also, there are other YouTubers out there that have true info, not just DJ Hammers. I'm still confused on why 4110-4114 are sitting to get picked up and delivered when we don't even have 4090 yet...okay, i feel like I know, nvm

21 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

Homeless ppl on the train wouldn't cause the train to fail the 30 day test.

I mean it is a problem though, right? Okay, maybe not that big of a problem, like the malfunctions, but at least the pilot set for the 211s didn't do what the 179s did.

19 minutes ago, MJHmarc said:

According to DJ Hammers Trains…The r211 pilot has passed it’s 30 day test…is this true?

No. It redid the test on April 14th because of breakdowns, homeless people on the train, and malfunctions. I think the test ends on May 13th, then after that, it hopefully will pass.

51 minutes ago, zacster said:

The reason that isn't quite true is that the N/Q/W did have the R160s for many years, and the R had the R46s.  They only got swapped because of QBL CBTC. 

It would have still been like that if it weren't for it though, favorite childs switched when it was activated. Haha! I feel like the R might get like 3 R211 trains off the 2nd option order, but beside that, that's it for Broadway. The A/C/B/D/SIR are gonna get the most out of any train.

9 hours ago, jon2305 said:

Cars 4088 & 4089 arrived and are currently at South Brooklyn Railway as of this evening. 

 

Also, 4070-4079 performed burn-in testing last night on the .

Cars 4110 thru 4114 are sitting outside Kawasaki's Lincoln plant awaiting delivery to the city.

And O...kay...we didn't even get to the 4100 series yet... and Like Fan Railer said not even past 4090...This is going by pretty fast.

9 hours ago, Fan Railer said:

Sounds like a regular R211A delivery tonight, if anything at all, probably the first part of the 4090-4094 set. Will confirm when I have more info. Based on the gap between the last delivery, the SIRT R211 is probably delayed until mid-May.

No, It's probably on Friday and Saturday. You could be right, though. Every pilot set was delivered between nights of the 28th and the 29th of a month. The first R211A pilot set was delivered between June 28-29th, 2021, and the first R211T pilot set was delivered between October 28-29t, 2022, so the MTA might do the same pattern again with the R211S pilot cars. That's what I think.

12 hours ago, Reptile said:

For as many bad decisions as the MTA makes they will 100% fill the with R68s because the will all be getting CBTC which makes it impossible to put anything else.

You're absolutely right...Sorry. I should have known. It's like the N/Q/W are the most forgotten lines bc of the rolling stock they run. It's like the R is the MTA's favorite Broadway child. XD

2 hours ago, Comrade96 said:

Seriously? CBTC on a 68? in your dreams

That's what they would have to get on the IND unfortunately, or maybe just pass them to Broadway, like smart MTA. the MTA would be dumb if they left some 68s on CBTC equipped parts of the B/D/F/M.

8 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

It is very typical for the MTA to wait until subway cars are falling apart to replace them. If the MTA was really smart, they would have included the r262's and whatever car order that will replace the r68's in the current capital program.

Why?? Because a subway car is not a bus. Buses can be replaced quickly. It takes several years to design, build, deliver and test new subway cars.

I'm pretty sure that Broadway will eventually get CBTC once CBTC is installed in the IND sections of the subway and I doubt that the r68's will get CBTC equipped.

What's going to happen with the r68's if a huge chunk of the B division is CBTC and their replacement is not even built???

Who knows, maybe most 68s will be sitting at CIY or something because of CBTC, but CBTC and the 68s can communicate somehow, hopefully.

10 minutes ago, AZthefoamer said:

No way, the R44 needs replacement more than anything else in the fleet at this point. What else might they put on SIR? The R211S has different signaling, and the cars are already ordered.

Put the R211S on SIR and replacement will not be a concern for over 40 years.

Agreed. Only 59 out of the 64 are in service now because of derailments and parts breaking down. Soon, most of the SIR cars will be out of shape. That's why the first R211S cars are getting delivered later on this week, towards Friday and Saturday.

3 hours ago, MJHmarc said:

Seems an R211T got tagged in CI, pics on FB subway groups. 

Oh my god, guess where we traveled back too...anyone know?

That's basically what I'm saying! I don't wanna see 68s replaced by 211s. If you read my second statement, the R68s will not be replaced by the R211s and I can guarantee that! Just because fleet expansion cars can be used for R68 replacement does not mean the MTA is gonna do it. And the MTA is more focused on the lil 81-85 cars than the 75ft 86-88 cars. (you will truly get it if you are an actual railfanner, you just know so much about the MTA you also get it)

PLUS, we already have more than  1100 R211 cars being built, and I'm pretty sure none of them are gonna be used for R68 replacement, it'sjust fro fleet expansion becuase god knows what happens when the MTA has a car shortage.

51 minutes ago, AZthefoamer said:

Does it absolutely need to? We obviously need more than what we have, and possibly more than what the first option order can give us, but the first option order alone gives us 160 new cars for fleet expansions, that should be enough, no?

Not enough cars to do that entirely. I have seen people say they might partially do that but not only do we not have an idea of if Option Order 2 will happen, but the R68s still have some life in them, unlike the R46s.

No R68s are planned to or are being replaced! This order is only to replace R44 SIR cars and R46s on the NYC subway! Why are we looking forward to R68/A replacement if the MTA has to replace the R62s first? The 62s are older, and need replacement more than the R68s do. I wonder if an R353 is gonna exist for the R68s to get replaced (it probably won't, there's a highly impossible chance I'm correct) , but this is only to replace R46s for the NYC subway. The MTA would have to order more R211 cars for like 5 billion dollars including option orders, and the MTA isn't really good in funde as somebody said earlier, so I'd rather ride a R68 right now than see it getting replaced by the SAME ROLLING STOCK THAT IS REPLACING ITS FRIEND!!! There is no such thing in the NYC subway as 'If I die, you're coming too.' As you can clearly see, there is no R160s on the SIR, the 32s didn't get taken down the entire way by the 38s, This is not happening between the 46s and the 68s. I'm pretty sure that the 68/As can live for another 10 years or so. So that's my opinion on whatever everyone is saying. The R68/As can be left alone and let the 211s do their job as successors of the 46s.

1 hour ago, Calvin said:

The order calls for 75 cars so, it'll likely be 5-car sets. 

It is going to be 5 car sets. the R211Ss are 60 feet and like you said the order calls for 75 cars, so it is going to be 15 5-car sets if you didn't know. Just a quick answer. Not judging.

I have never ridden a 46 but I can see that they are very dirty but Like i said i have never ridden one. It's been over 12 years since I have gone to NYC in general, so I barely know what the subway system ACTUALLY looks like, but I know some parts. I think CIY, 207 and Pitkin are equal. Its the same fleet, so almost all cars are in bad shape. I think the MTA might b working on preserving some of the cars, though, so that's good.

2 minutes ago, Ale188 said:

That's why the pilot train needs to complete its revenue testing so the production trains can also be delivered and in service. Now this is just a warning to see bc we need this revenue test completed and the production cars to be in service FAST! Same thing happening to the SIR. Recently, 2 SIR cars were taken out of service, being 399 and 466. now instead of 64 cars, I believe 59 remain, though. We need this base order delivered FAST!

I should say 425 and 426, sorry

6 minutes ago, AZthefoamer said:

Bad maintenance perhaps? Very common to see R46s on the  with some doors not opening at stations.

Hopefully, the test is going well as of now.

That's why the pilot train needs to complete its revenue testing so the production trains can also be delivered and in service. Now this is just a warning to see bc we need this revenue test completed and the production cars to be in service FAST! Same thing happening to the SIR. Recently, 2 SIR cars were taken out of service, being 399 and 466. now instead of 64 cars, I believe 59 remain, though. We need this base order delivered FAST!

2 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

Probably is but we won’t know until we see it at CIYD

Alright! That solves my problem...for now...