Transit Fans

I know that the weird thing is the R211S didn’t have issue and it was push to March 2024. I guess they were focus with the R211A issues.

So that’s a total of 7 sets in service correct.

I know just like the R211A when they said September 2022 Revenue testing and it got push to March 2023. The MTA always comes with dates that is not always true.

That’s what the MTA mentioned on the October 2023 conference which is yes.

Didn’t I just mentioned that about the R211T. I know it’s not the same as a pilot set like the R211A and R211S which the first one are pilot sets that requires 30 days. Compared to a prototype it needs much more testing than just 30 days. Since it’s too early to determine if it works well. Which makes sense my they placed it on the C line. Eventually the R211T will have a better version just like they did with the R110A/B. Which we now see R142/A, R143 and R160.

I know that R211T don’t have production cars since there are just prototypes. But they still need to be testing to make sure it works because the MTA decide to order an option order. Just like they did back in 1993 with the R110A/B for the 2 and A lines.

Yes prototype are test fleets which is similar to the R110A/B to see if they are able to run way on the tracks. Either way a prototype is very similar to a pilot set when it comes to testing to make sure it works properly. I have seems how pilot and prototype works by living in NYC even since being born and raise there. I don’t need someone like you to tell me what I don’t know. Because prototype cars and not the same as production cars when it comes to testing. Do you remember back in 1993 when the R110A appeared on the 2 line for testing. Which has tested as passenger service for about 5 years before they decide to put the R142 doing testing back in 1999 and their debut has on July 2000 same with the R142a on the 6.

It’s doesn’t matter it’s not a production set which means it has to go through a 30 day revenue test.

Look R211T and R211S both are pilot sets which means they have to go through a 30 day test no matter what. That’s how the MTA if they are able to run well just as the same process they did with the pilot R211A. Do you even know how a pilot train works.

You are aware that R211T is a pilot set which requires a 30 day revenue test. Only production cars are not required a 30 day. Also R211S are exact same as an R211A too and they are doing a 30 day revenue on that’s one in March next month.

If that’s the case then R211S don’t need a 30 day since they all part of the base order. The MTA mentioned in the last conference introduction the R211T saying it’s doing a 30 day to see how it does before they order more of them.

Again incorrect the memo states the R211T is doing a 30 day test same as the R211A. If it was that case they wouldn’t do a non revenue test for over a year.

Incorrect the memo mentioned the R211T is doing a 30 day revenue test on the C line. They are not part of the R211A 30 day don’t know from where you are getting that info from. If it was that case it wouldn’t take over a year for R211T to do non revenue testing.

Not true when the R211A did its 30 day test it ran on the weekends

Yes it is on a 30 day revenue test

It should since it’s on the 30 day test period the A ran it.

That could be a possible since 4085-89 will be the last one to go back in service once the set gets fixed. The new set 4195-99 could go either way with 4135-39 or 4190-4194 that’s already been at South Brooklyn which should be at Coney Island yards.

Looks like these are going to be the 9 and 10 R211a sets that will be doing burning testing in February. The MTA really likes to mix these production car sets.

Ok now which sets are the once in service cause this list looks scrambled. So the 4080-4084 returned to service.

Wait so they remove 4095-4099 that was attached to 4105-4109. Did this happen because they want to attached 4090-4094 when it enters service with 4095-4099 has a whole set.

That’s what I was telling many people in YouTube about the C. Yep you are correct they don’t have enough ridership. It would make sense if it goes to either the A E or F since doesn’t lines have the highest ridership.

The MTA needs a better security on those yards. Because that is has been happening to much specifically with trains that haven’t even started service. This is ridiculous and frustrating as hell.

That set is still at CI yards getting repaired. Eventually that set will be done before 4080-4089 this month. Not sure of the day yet.

I said January 2024 I did not say in the next 4 days from now. It could be anytime in January 2024. Since the only set that had the gear box problem was actually 4085 set. They only have 2 sets of R211a in standby since mid October 2023. It won’t take long to bring the other 2 back.

Now regarding the R32 the original plan was to keep 110 cars not 70 or 80 cars back in 2020 till 2022 for the R211s to retire them. But of course as we all know the R211 service revenue was push back from September 2022 to March 2023 due to delays on the plant with Kawasaki staff shortages like you mentioned before. Because if Covid they had to remove the R32 due to staff shortages and because the train was not able to handle Covid times because conductors and operator of the train being inside of the car than between the cars it would work for Covid due to distancing them else from the passengers. Which makes sense for the MTA to put them in storage for a year or so to prepare them for the final ceremony run which happen in December 2021 till January 2022. In conclusion the first 11 10 car sets or 110 cars are being retired by R211A for R32.