Far Rock Depot

1 minute ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

Also, it's safe to say that so far this train has been performing better on the passenger testing than 3058-3065 despite the external issues, such as track fires, vandalism, typical rush hour crowds, etc. Keep in mind that the weather is horrendous and the fact that the 10 car train made it to Rockaways through all the snow and ice and didn't have any issues is a good sign. I'm surprised that there hasn't been any weather related issues on the trains.

It want bad out in Rockaway weather-wise.  Butbto be honest,  the only equipment issues out there wouldn't be car-type based.   It would be the usual iced third rail,  frozen switches,  frozen signals,  stuck bridge,  etc.  The most I've seen car-wise is frozen doors,  which usually doesn't happen anymore since once it gets to 6 inches of snow and more,  they shut down the line. 

3 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

This 10 car set is generating more excitement than when the 8 car set first went into service on the   lol.

 

 

As for it running to Rockaway Park, I believe all Rock Park specials are put ins from uptown, do only one trip to Rock Park and layup out there. I doubt they will use an NTT on an Rock Park special until 211s dominate the line.. Those runs are perfect for older cars, why don't they use 32s on them, I don't know. Rumor is politics and those Rock Park riders would get aggy when their rush hour special was an R38 rather than the R44 back in the day, or so I read... 

Correct.   The five sets start the day leaving rock park,  head uptown,  lay up in 207 yard and do the trip back to Rock Pk.    As a C/R , a had those PM jobs that started at either Mott or Lefferts,  head uptown,  when on WAA until the trip down to Rock Pk as a Put-in from the yard.

As far as the cars assigned, i heard the same back in the day, but over the years, there were a few 32s assigned to those trips. 

4 minutes ago, MTA Bus said:

All the Rockaway Park trips start/end at 168.

Not all. The final s/b is a put-in at Dyckman. 

Before,  about two or three trips use to leave out of Dyckman. 

And I believe a few northbounds drop out at 207 now 

1 hour ago, R32 3838 said:

If you look at it, the R46's are the reason the runs like garbage due to the amount of doors. If all 14 sets of R179's were to be on the along with 8-10 R32's and the rest being R46's. It would be the perfect balance and dwell times would be reduced. 

 

75 foot cars need to go, they're becoming a liability when it comes to crowd control. The imo is the only line that isn't impacted as much due to its ridership vs. The and lines.

The was horrible because of the R46's dwell time, once the line became dominated by R160's those delays dropped. 

 

This is why i was in favor of two more door panels per side when they were flirting with the idea of making the 179s and/or 211s 75 footers. 5 double panel door openings per side would've helped 75' cars a lot. And would've given the same amount as 60' 10-car consists 

2 minutes ago, AlgorithmOfTruth said:

This is a thread about the R179 subway cars and you're here desperately proving you're right about every little thing. The first set of R179s assigned to the  made a trip to Far Rockaway. Big deal. I predicted otherwise. I couldn't care less if you were right or not, which is why I didn't bother wasting my time responding to you in the first place, but you felt the urge to send me a second response to further reinforce your insecure ego. Maybe you've spent too much time underground. There are plenty of therapists here in NY that you could choose from. Good luck.

Wow.  Someones upset. 

1)every little thing?  No.

2)your little speech there, is the kettle calling the pot, hot. 

3)insecure ego?  Please. 

4)I spend more time outside then underground. Thank you very much.  

But in all seriousness,  here you are,  writing this big grand response over a post calling me insecure and saying hownits not that big of a real in the first place yet there it is,  written out in all it's glory.  

If I need a therapist,  I'm sure you have a few on standby you can recommend.  

And not only do i not recall ever interacting with you before,  since you say I'm always trying to be,  oh wait,  you said desperately provimg I'm right about every little thing, butbi mayself aren't on here often,  so I guess either someone got butthurt (over a post BTW)  and decided to lash out,  or you went back and read the majority of my posts spread out over the last what, 10-12 years or so? 

Hmmmmmm.....

1 minute ago, MrQuesada said:

As an  train rider this is so incredible to see. Almost every subway line in New York has (or occasionally sees) New Tech Trains. The  will finally join this trend. It's been a rough wait. Years of ancient trains. The first New Tech is here, though- and more are on the way!

I seriously can't believe it.  riders will be able to hear announcements and have working A/C!!! 

😭😭🤣🤣

We had the R110B and the first 30-day pilot attempt of the R160. 

On 2/9/2019 at 12:15 AM, AlgorithmOfTruth said:

Knowing how overly cautious and restrictive supervision is, the debut of the first 10-car set of R179s will most likely stay away from The Rockaways on Sunday. If anything happens, better it not be over an open body of water far removed from the rest of the system/hard to reach.

2 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

For those interested, 3010-19 is heading down signed for Far Rockaway. Should be around 175th by now.

Boom

2 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

No way will it deadhead all the way to 207th from Pikin, it will most likely start at either Lefferts or Mott Ave. There's no  line runs that start at Eucild on Sundays (If there is, they aren't shown on the public timetable on the TA's website)

Theres three options 1)it could be an Xtra put-in 2)deadhead to Mott/lefferts or 3)be sent to 207 a day or so prior to it running.  And it doesn't have to be restricted to Pitkin BTW.   Pitkin just happens to be closer to the Flats for testing,  stores most of the C trains for service and does have Crews trained but so does 207. 

3 minutes ago, AlgorithmOfTruth said:

Knowing how overly cautious and restrictive supervision is, the debut of the first 10-car set of R179s will most likely stay away from The Rockaways on Sunday. If anything happens, better it not be over an open body of water far removed from the rest of the system/hard to reach.

This post..... Makes me facepalm so hard!  

As former train crew,  this is absolutely ridiculous. Like nothing's ever happened there before and can't do anything outside of say, 4 feet of snow.  Like they've never tested new techs out in Rockaway before.  

If it runs on Sunday,  or anyday,  best believe it will go to rockaway.  

1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

There is no document or paper. It's a word from a very good T/O friend of mine who's very involved in the MTA system. Just trust me on it.

There's always a document on things like this. They're called "bullitens". If your T/O friend is confirming this as fact,  it's probably from a bulliten.  Which all train Crews are responsible for reading. 

4 minutes ago, R32 3838 said:

They gonna have no choice, when the summer hits. Where are you gonna put the R32's? The is out of the question.

It's best to keep them on the until retirement. 

 

I hope you're not reffering to the summer swap which hasnt happened in what,  two summers?  Didn't they fix thr A/C units?  They did, didn't they.  You know where the 32s will be this summer?  Barring a Fleet shift,  on the C just like last summer. 

37 minutes ago, Riku said:

Exactly so I’m like wtf 

I'm in the 1500's too. I'm not surprised they haven't called us for second PE's yet.  We were too far down when they stopped in the fall to need them.    Right now,  I've heard heads in the 1400s got letters.  We should be getting ours before the end of March. 

Everyone,  I've been thru this process before.  I was already a C/R and didn't finish probation.   With all the confusing as to when one gets called,  repeated drug tests and what not,  let me try to clarify a few things. 

1)there's no exact time frame for anything untill you report to orientation after you get hired.  That's fact.   So asking how long before I get a letter,  how long before I report after getting hired,  etc is a variable.   There's no definate answer 

2)as far as them having consideration of our time for all these appointments,  well,  someone mentioned it best,  if you really want this job,  you'll do what it takes to show up.  As I've mentioned here not long ago,  think of this whole process AS the interview.  How bad do you want this job AND can you come thru when needed cause when you're on the road, no matter what,  you have to show up for work and show up early.  "On time is late". 

3)this is the first C/R list that is done completely by Transit themselves and not DCAS.  Hence why not only it seems like it's all over the place but also the addition of the OPA process. We Never had to take an OPA for 8094.  

One thing is clear and certain though, when we all were told after taking the test that it's basically take it and forget about it because it will be awhile before jot only being called,  but hired, you now see that it wasn't BS.   And also a word to the wise,  Transit monitors everything.  EVERYTHING.  Br wary of how you act online and yes,  even here.    They csn get a hint of potential "problems" and sometime down the line,  will find an easy way to put you back on the street.  There's a motto among employees in transit.... "CYA". Cover Your A$$. trust  me on this.   

Don't rack your brains trying to figure out a time frame.  Wait for those call-ups,  show up when they tell you to.   In-between those times, just go about your normal lives. 

1 hour ago, AJ of JGD said:

May I ask who’s TNPV?

More like "what's TNPV? ". It's the "Transport News,  Photography, and Video" group on Facebook. 

Thanks Tech and Transit for the video post. 

This shows the 10-car set doing the "Simulated Revenue test". This comes before the "30-day Revenue test"(in passenger service) and after the "burn-in test". 

1 hour ago, Nyctransitorhotels said:

 

Great post. I said that earlier transit should value everyones time. To have you keep filling out paperwork when you won't be called makes no sense and is a disregard or your time. 

In a way,  this is how transit sees how bad you want this job.  Going thru the whole process of pre employment,  medical and final processing is kind of like their interview process since when you pass everything,  you pretty much get the job. And given what you'll be going thru on the job,  they wanna see your availability.   This isn't like any other job.  When they will need you,  you need to be there.  Perfect example, when a major snow storm hits,  and everything including the subway shuts down,  you STILL need to report!  And not only on-time but at times even earlier.  If you can't do that just to get the job,  they will see it as well not only do you must not really want this job,  you are someone they can rely on.  And with this job,  you NEED to be reliable. 

28 minutes ago, Enjineer said:

Really? I thought they just moved the heaters for the cars back under the seats. 

The heaters were always under the seats.  That's why the 32s seats get warm. It's inside the compartment that has the seats along with the door motors. But with the 179s, not only are the heaters still under the seats, but the seats themselves are heated. That's why the seats on every other car doesn't warm up.  

12 minutes ago, Enjineer said:

Just like the 32s 

Heres the thing,  the 32s seats aren't heated on purpose.  They were just designed to have both the door motors and heaters placed there while the 179s were purposely designed to have heated seats. 

17 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

3150-3153 is back in service coupled to 3158-3161 on the . Rode it myself...

I personally love these cars because I feel like they have character. The R160s to me are stale but the little quirks on the 179s like the propulsion, the sound of the door motors and the slightly larger FIND screens and end car displays make them interesting to me (and TBH I just like the design more) 

I like the heated passenger seats.  Comes in handy when I'm on the J going to work. 

8 minutes ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

I never said that they were being retired right now. The r179's are still delayed. However, 2 to 3 years from now, the r42's and r32's will be history, but of course the r42's will retire before the r32's.

More like 3 to 4 years. 

17 minutes ago, Riku said:

Nice, they so close to me 😩🙏🏾 1,5** 

You and me both!  Also 15**

1 hour ago, East New York said:

It’s not really stupid at all. MTA isn’t gonna order trains they haven’t tested so thats why there are 2 open-gangway test trains with the base order. 

Not sure what you mean about “this small order” or what you are referring to. 

I believe the r179 is what he's referring to,  given that's it's roughly 300 or so cars, even though the only other "small orders" since the NTT era began has been the 143 and 188.

On 1/9/2019 at 5:18 PM, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

Gotcha, it's just so stupid how the base order of R211s are gonna be standard, and then options would have the open gangway. They should've down the real testing with this small order. 

I wish I followed up on trains more often. 

Now if you're referring to them testing open gangways with the 179s,  keep in mind that 1)this order is a few years late with delivery and 2) these cars were designed and ordered before the decision to test open gangway cars.  And as ENY stated,  they aren't going to order something they haven't tested yet.  They learned their lessons with ATO on the R44 order,  the Rockwell articulated trucks on the R46 order and the infamous Grumman 870 bus. 

This is why the current NTT concept was first tested with the R110A/B, the Low Floor bus with the Orion VI and Nova LFS,  and all these all-electric buses we've been testing out for the last few years. 

5 minutes ago, subwaycommuter1983 said:

Speaking about confirmed information check out this article:

https://www.amny.com/transit/l-train-status-1.26067722

No L train shutdown!!!

So today they made it official. 

To be honest, we still don't have definite official word from the MTA board if the shutdown is off.  Everywhere is reporting that they still have to vote on it,  hence the "emergency" meeting the other day.  Just because Cuomo said it's averted,  doesn't mean it is.

31 minutes ago, Nyctransitorhotels said:

OK here's my dilemma and ima go to the pre employment most probably when it's my turn. I'm at this moment earning $30.40 per hr as of July I go up to almost $32 per hr. Conductor starts at $22.50 or so. Overtime for me is after 35 hrs night time differential is $1.50 more from 8am-6am. I get free food at work. Decent food actually. Health insurance covered by union dues of $50 per biweekly paycheck. Last yr at $26.75 until late December and $26 until July I earned at base rate $81,500. If I would've been at max rate which I get Dec 2020 or if I leave and go to another Hotel property now my rate will be $37.70 or so. 

 

The only however big reason for me to join Mta is their pension my unions pension is trash at $1250 per mo after 20 yrs I believe. 

 

I have a tough decision to make. Anyway if I was to stay on the same pace as last yr at my rate I would earn around $93k. 

 

Can I make at least $75k per yr first yr while having somewhat of a life. I can't really afford my costs if earn less than $75k. 

 

Thanks Farrock I think we've spoken before. 

As was stated above,  you can basically forget about having a life the first year or two. You'll be working for transit. Transit will be your life the first year or two. 

Overtime is anything after 8 hours a day. And even jobs that have only one trip  you get atleast 8 hours pay.  

Also as stated above,  it may be possible.  But you'll most likely be working 6 days a week and what jobs you get leaves you at the mercy of the Crew Office,  who schedules your jobs. You don't get free lunch,  but you'll never have to but a metrocard. 

In the end,  it all comes down to what's best for you.   Personally,  I could hit the lotto and still be a C/R cause I loved being a C/R. But as far as you're own personal finances,  it's ultimately uo to you what you want to do.   You'll top out at about $28 an hour or something like that and you can always take promotional tests to a position with more pay-like Train Operator,  Towers,  Assistant Dispatcher,  etc.   

14 minutes ago, Nyctransitorhotels said:

Great questions and answers. Ver informative. So first few years sounds like not that much money available. 

On the contrary,  quite the opposite.  The 16 hour a day limit and only working one out of two days off is across the board.  It's actually law. And given that you'll Br all over the system,  youll actually be making good money since everyday will be different. If you pick a job for six months-the length of one "pick" and pick nothing but 8 hour jobs,  that's what you'll be getting barring any delays that may have you clear late where as an extra extra,  you could get an 8 hour job one day,  a penaty job(more than 8 with OT built in)  the next,  then the day after can be on board for 7 hours then pick up a full 8 hour job that turns your 7 hours on board into OT.