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The Bx3 ends up bunching a lot because of the traffic along its route (not just in Washington Heights, but there's traffic on University Avenue as well). While a Bx3 short-turn that runs between 238th/Bway and University/Cross Bronx Expwy (not touching Washington Heights) might sound good on paper, it could be a disaster since Washington Heights is the Bx3's biggest ridership generator. Thanks to routes such as the Bx3, the Dominican community in the Bronx has really grown since the late 1970s.

I agree with both. As for the Bx16/34 combo, don't underestimate its usage in Fordham as riders use it to reach Montefiore Hospital and some of the clinics in Norwood and Bedford Park, while avoiding the unreliable in the process. While the core of the Bx34's usage is betweeen Woodlawn station and the Woodlawn neighborhood during rush hours, that changes during the midday hours to the Montefiore-Fordham segment.

As much as a Bx3 limited sounds good on paper, it won't work in practice since some of the local stops (like 183rd St/Univ Av and 176th St) get good ridership.

The heart of the Bx8's ridership is from Westchester Square to Pelham Parkway.

Even though Metro Av station might be a good place to terminate the Q88, having it terminate at Fresh Pond would allow for a quicker ride from Eliot Av to the train.

The only thing I would do for your Q88 is to change its western portion. Instead of terminating at the Metro Av station, it would end at Fresh Pond Rd/Metro Av (current Q67 terminus). Route: Eliot Av, 69th St, Metropolitan Av, Eliot Av, Fresh Pond Rd

It's going to have a hard time turning from Fordham to Jerome. Why not use Kingsbridge Rd instead?

The Q18 would take 58th St, Roosevelt AV, 75th St, Woodside Av, then 69th St, then Q47 route to Glendale.

The Q64 could turn right on 164th St, then left on 73rd Av to continue east.

With the Bx11, I wanted to kill two birds with one stone. While it goes to Morris Heights to retain their access to 170th Street, it would retain service in underserved Highbridge. Macombs Road doesn't have many generators for ridership (save for the middle school on 176th St, where the Bx3/36 are nearby). For the Broadway to Bailey situation, it depends on where riders originate. If they're at the Marble Hill Houses, they would walk south to 225th St. If coming from 230th, they would walk up to 231st. With this plan, those coming from Riverdale won't have to get off at Corlear/Kingsbridge Avs to walk two blocks to the downtown since the Bx7 would stop in front of the station in both directions. For the Bx13 to The Hub & Gateway, the only downside is that it would miss the courts and social services by Concourse Plaza. There will be a good number of riders transferring from the Bx13 to the Bx6, just to travel 1-2 stops to the courts (to avoid walking the underpass or crossing the dangerous Grand Concourse). As for the Bx30, I'm thinking of going back to the original idea of sending it to VA Hospital. It would serve the educational mile along with the Bx28, and provide those in the Northeast Bronx access to that hospital, and to Bronx Community College (by way of the Bx3 transfer at University Av).

The reason why I don't have the Bx11 run via Macombs and W Tremont is because it gets high usage on 168th St in High Bridge. Without the Bx11 in Highbridge, they would be stuck with the Bx13 (which is a longer ride to the ). For the bx30, I only sent it to 231st St to not be redundant to the Bx26 or Bx28. That routing is the current path that the Bx1 takes to get to 231st from Sedgwick Avenue. It serves IS 143, which many Bedford Park students (from the other side of the reservoir) are zoned to. I think the Bailey reroute would save about 3-5 minutes, since Broadway is backed up in each direction (northbound by 231st St and southbound by 225th). My Bx37 is my spin on the Q94. I cut the Q44 from the Bronx in order to rid the big route from delays caused by Whitestone Bridge and Cross Bronx Expwy traffic. Plus, Bronx residents would have a reliable route traveling between Flushing and Fordham. The Bx37 would run every 6-7 mins during the rush, 10-12 mins off-peak, and about 40-60 mins late nights. I understand that there are too many buses at Dyre Av (the Bx16/14, Q50, W52/55/60/61/62). So I'm gonna send the Bx14 to Ropes Avenue to alleviate that situation. Only the Q50 and W60/61/62 would actually terminate there. I would probably have the W55 extended to either Bay Plaza (via Sec 3-4) or the Boston/Secor Houses. For the Bx13 to The Hub, I like it since it serves two big shopping areas, the Gateway Center and the Hub. I've heard about a few customers going to Gateway park near The Hub (specifically along Brook Avenue and 152nd St where no meters exist), then take the 149th St Bus to the Gateway Mall.

Bronx Bus Overhaul (Update 1) Southwest Bronx Bx2: runs via Bx1 south of 149th St. Use extended Bx13 for The Hub because of this, no Sunday service (all Sunday Bx2’s become Bx1’s since Bx1 runs local on that day) Bx6: in addition to the service boost that will start in July, it would run every 8 mins on weekends runs the full route late nights to connect with at 157th/Bway Bx13: if Hunts Point extension is not a great idea, I’m thinking about combining two previous ideas. It would run to The Hub, but via the Gateway Center Mall. It would replace the Bx2 in The Hub However, I’m a bit skeptical about how the Bx13 will make the turn from 161st St onto River Av (and viceversa) with the high pedestrian traffic from Yankees’ games, the courts, and residents. Route: 161st St, River Av, 149th St, Bergen Av, Westchester Av, Melrose Av Bx15 & Bx55: interlined, both run under West Farms Depot Combined Headways Rush hrs: 4 mins (8 mins each) Middays and Weekends (during the day): 5 mins (10 mins each) Bx15: runs between Fordham Plaza and 138th St/3rd Av station 5am-8pm weekdays, 8am-6pm weekends use local Bx55 other times no longer runs on Willis Avenue Bx55: runs between Gun Hill Rd sta and 125th St/Lexington Av (4/5/6) sta northbound via Madison Avenue Bridge makes limited stops 5am-8pm weekdays, 8am-6pm weekends runs local other times Bx55 limited stops Gun Hill/White Plains Gun Hill/Webster 204 St Bedford Park Blvd Fordham Plaza/3 Av 183 St 180 St Tremont Av Claremont Pkwy 168 St 163 St 157 St 149 St 138 St/Morris-Lincoln Avs 125 St/Lexington Av Bx11: runs between West Farms Rd/Southern Blvd and River Park Towers replaces Bx18 in Morris Heights, use Bx13/35 for Washington Heights Route: 168th St, 167th St, Sedgwick Av, Tremont Av, McCracken Av, Harlem River Park Bridge, Undercliff Av Bx18: eliminated, use Bx11 for Morris Heights North Bronx Bx7/20: rerouted between 231st St and 225th St via Bailey Av to avoid congested stretch of Broadway Route: 231st St, Bailey, 225th St, Broadway Bx19: truncated to Westchester Av/Southern Blvd use Bx9 for north of Westchester Av Bx9: runs between Hunts Point Av sta and 231st St/Riverdale Av replaces Bx19 north of Westchester Av Use extended M100 for Broadway Route: Southern Bl, Fordham, Kingsbridge, Bway, 230th, Riverdale, 231st, Kingsbridge Av, 230th Bx22: new western terminus is 231st St/Riverdale Av use Bx28/30 for Goulden Av Bx26: extended west to 262nd/Bway via Paul Av, Mosholu, Van Cort, Bway allows faster connection between Eastern Riverdale and Bx28 & Bx38: merged into one route (Bx28) runs between Earhart Lane and 231st/Riverdale Av via All sections route: Mosholu Pkwy, Paul, Bedford Park, Goulden, Kingsbridge It runs through Kingsbridge Rd to serve Educational Mile and 225th St Target use , Bx1/2, Bx16, Bx41/55 for Fordham New Bx28 LTD runs rush hours only Earhart Lane Einstein Loop/Hutch Pkwy Coop City Bl/Bartow Av Bellamy Loop/Coop City Bl Rombouts Av (serves Carver and Dreiser) Donizetti Pl/Baychester Av (serves Truman HS) Edson/Bartow Avs Eastchester/Gun Hill Rds Knapp St ( train station) Boston Rd Bronxwood Av White Plains Rd Webster Av Montefiore Hospital/Bainbridge Av (e/b at 210 St, w/b at Gun Hill Rd) 206th St West Mosholu Pkwy South/Paul Av local to 231st Street Bx30: runs from Earhart Lane to 231st/Bway rerouted via 222nd St to fill crosstown gap and serve Edenwald/Baychester Houses and Cardinal Spellman HS use new Bx14 for Boston Rd route: Boston Rd, Grace Av, 229th St, Laconia Av, 222nd St, White Plains Rd, Gun Hill Rd, Bainbridge Av, Mosholu Pkwy, Sedgwick Av, Giles Pl, Heath av, Albany Crescent, Bailey Av, 231st St Bx34: eliminated use Bx10 for Woodlawn and Bx16 for Fordham Bx10: new eastern terminus is 242nd/Katonah Route changes east of Dickinson Av route: Sedgwick, Mosholu, Paul, Bedford Park, Bainbridge, Jerome, 233, Katonah Bx16: runs between Fordham Center and Ropes/Hollers Avs via 233 St use Bx23 for Nereid/Baychester, replaces Bx34 on Bainbridge Av Bx23: runs between Pelham Bay Park and 233rd/Webster via Sections 3-4-5 Route: Bronx Blvd, Nereid, Mundy, Pitman, Baychester, Boston, Conner, Co-op City Blvd, Asch, Bartow, Hutchinson, Hunter, Earhart, Erskine, bruckner Q50: new northern terminus is Dyre Av station runs local in The Bronx, serves Sec 1-2-4-5 Route: Bruckner, Erskine, Bx30 route to Boston Rd, then Dyre Av Southeast Bronx Bx4A: absorbed onto Bx4, use Bx14 for Metropolitan Avenue Bx5: truncated to Brush/Schley Avs use Q50 for Bruckner Blvd Bx14: new Boston Road route running between Dyre Av station and Turnbull/Pugsley Avs (Stevenson High School) replaces Bee-Lines and Bx30 on Boston Rd, Bx4A on Metro Av, and Bx36 on White Plains Road Route: Dyre Av, Boston Rd, Bronx Park East, Bronxdale Av, Castle Hill Av, Metropolitan Av, McGraw/Wood Avs, White Plains Rd, Turnbull Av, Pugsley Av, Lafayette Av Bx24: rerouted via Waters Pl to serve Bronx Psychiatric and Hutch Metro Ctr Route: Westchester, Waters, Bronx Psy Loop, Waters, Hutch Metro Loop, Waters, Eastchester, Williamsbridge, Tremont, Lane Av Bx31: extended to Castle Hill/Zerega Avs to serve Unionport Route: Lane Av, Commerce, Zerega Bx27: eliminated use Bx36 for Rosedale av and new Bx37 for 174th St, and bx4/4a for Westchester Bx36: new eastern terminus is Clason’s Point use Bx37 for 174th St Route: 180th St, Rosedale/Taylor avs, 174th St, Rosedale, Randall, Soundview Restructured Bx36 LTD service (Bx36 Locals run between Cross Bronx/Univ Av and Clason’s Point) local between Washington Heights and Tremont/Univ Avs Tremont/University Jerome Av Grand Concourse (west side) Grand Concourse (East side)/Monroe Avenue Tremont/Webster 180th St 3rd Av/180th St Crotona Av Southern Blvd Boston Rd Morris Park Av (180th St (2/5) station) 174th/Rosedale Westchester Story Rosedale/Randall local to Clason’s Point Bx37: runs between Fordham plaza and Flushing station makes Limited stops between Flushing and Parkchester, then local to Fordham Replaces Bx36 on 174th St and Q44 on Cross Bx/Flushing Route: 3rd Av, 184th St, Arthur Av, 182nd St, Boston Rd, Hoe/Vyse Avs, 174th St, Cross Bronx Exp, Brush Av/Hutchinson Pky, Whitestone Exp, Linden Pl, Northern, Main LTD Stops Roosevelt Av/Main St Northern Blvd 35th Av/Linden Pl Whitestone Expwy 20th Av/Whitestone Expwy Lafayette Av/Hutch Pkwy Bruckner Blvd/Brush Av (Home Depot) Castle Hill av/Cross Bronx Expwy Hugh J. Grant Circle then local to Fordham Plaza Interborough Routes Q44: terminates at College Point via Q20A path, Q20 local takes Q20B’s place Use new Bx37 for Flushing-to-Bronx service M100: extended to 262nd/Bway to replace Bx9 north of 225th St Bee-Line 60/61/62: new southern terminus is Eastchester/Dyre Av station use restructured Bx14 for Boston Road and Bx12/22 for Fordham Road Depot Lineups *uses artics Eastchester: Bx23, Q50, BxM6, 7, 8, 9, 10 Gun Hill: Bx4*, 5*, 12*, 14, 16, 24, 26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 39*, 41* Kingsbridge: Bx1/2*, 3, 7, 9*, 10, 11, 13, 22*, 32, M100 West Farms: Bx6, 15/55*, 17, 19*, 21, 33, 35, 36, 37, 40/42* Yonkers: BxM1, 2, 3, 4, 11, 18

Bx3: I agree with B35, this route is nicknamed "The Quisqueya Express" for a reason -- the bulk of the riders on University are heading to Washington Heights and the area around Sedgwick Houses. Bx5/29 merger: no good. I don't think artics could handle the small City Island streets. Bx11: keep it on West 168th St since Highbridge riders have a quicker ride to the with the Bx11 as opposed to the Bx13. Besides, Macombs Road does not pick up too many riders (save for the rush hours with the middle school on 176th/Macombs). Bx35: agree with B35, keep it on Edward L. Grant Hwy since it's a direct ride from Washington Heights to the . Bx36: the only things I would do to the LTD are 1) have it stop on both sides of Grand Concourse in each direction, 2) expand it to middays, and 3) Bx36 locals would not run into Washington Heights while LTD's run. Bx40/42: while it makes more sense to send them to Undercliff Av, I don't think artics would have a tough time meandering through narrow streets known for double-parking.

Besides, most Q72 riders heading to Queens Center would get off at 57th Av/Junction Blvd. As for a Q29/49 merger, I wouldn't be surprised if they went with it, connecting with the at 90th St to fill the gap between Junction and 82nd, even if it came at the loss of the Queens Blvd express transfer at 74th St. Potential route for the merged route: Southbound: Astoria Blvd, 92nd St, Roosevelt Av, Britton Av, Hampton St, then Q29 route to Glendale Northbound: Hampton St, Elmhurst Av, 91st St, Astoria Blvd

Bx6 riders would end up on the by way of the 145th St transfer from the . Most riders on the Bx6 get off at three stops in Manhattan; Edgecombe (for the M2 to Harlem), Amsterdam (for the M100 to Washington Heights since the M100 serves a more popular part of the neighborhood than the M101), and Broadway (for the or the M4/5).

It would be a longer ride for Bx6 riders to either the at Broadway or the M100/101 at Amsterdam Avenue. Besides, taking the M2 from Edgecombe would mean Harlem riders losing access to Columbia Presbyterian.

Westbound. As for the Bx13 to 3rd Av, it should run more often than just AM Rush hours. The Bx6 is crowded during most of the weekday as those getting out of court hearings or the social services (like Welfare or Social Security) use it during middays.

A good chunk of the Bx13's crowd at Yankee Stadium (heading to Highbridge) come from the Bx6.

I would have my Bx37 run slightly more frequent than the Bx36 locals during rush hours. Headways for Bx37: 6 mins during rush hrs, 8 mins during middays, 10 mins during weekends/evenings, no late nights Not to mention, taking the bx36 off 174th would eliminate a good chunk of the turns, and bypass traffic at West Farms Square and along the 174th St bridge.

With the Bx36 LTD, don't underestimate its 174th St ridership. There's a high school and students who live in the Bronx River Houses go to junior high school in West Farms (since there's no JHS in Bronx River). As for the current Bx13, most riders use it between the Stadium and 168th St. North of it, the Bx11 dominates due to its frequency and reliability. I cut the Bx11 to eliminate redundancy on Ogden Av and to get more ridership onto the Bx13 between 168th St and the Heights. As for 181st st, the Bx13 has the least ridership on 181st St, then the Bx11, Bx35, Bx36, and Bx3. Speaking of the Bx10, there's another benefit to my plan -- a quicker ride to the since it would now transfer to the Bedford Park Blvd/Grand Concourse station.

For the Bx6/13, I had the Bx13 go to Lafayette to get to Tiffany St and serve Barretto Point Park, silencing Hunts Point residents who cry of the lack of access to the park. With the Bx15, I always felt that the 125th St traffic has hurt the route's performance. For a first-hand look, try using the Bx15 on weekends. The Bx15 arrives in 2's or 3's after a 20-minute wait along 3rd Avenue. Besides, there's plenty of buses and the and to reach Harlem from the South Bronx. I reduced the Bx19's route in order to improve its performance, same reason why Bx41 service was cut north of Gun Hill in 2010. Remember, the Bx26 serves Broadway, a different part of Riverdale than the Bx10. As for the Bx28 LTD, I was thinking about it strongly. It would make limited stops between Section 5 and Paul AV, then local to 225th St. The Bx16 would go to Fordham and the Bx10 to Woodlawn to allow for the elimination of the Bx34. With the latter, politics can also play a pivotal role as Woodlawn and Riverdale are often in the same political districts and district offices there would usually be in Riverdale.

On another thing that came up from QJTransitMaster, I would do the following to provide more consistent service on Boston Road in the Northeast Bronx. 1. The Bee-Line 60/61/62 would be cut back to the Dyre Av station 2. A new route, the Bx25, would run between Ropes Av/Boston Rd and Fordham Plaza. -8 minute headways during rush hours, 12 minutes during middays, 15 minutes weekends/evenings

My reasons to your replies: 1. For the Bx13's extension to Hunts Point, most of the Bx6's crowds are from Yankee Stadium to Southern Blvd. If the Bx13 ended at 3rd Av, too many riders would pile up the Bx6 to head east. Most of them are either heading to catch the Bx5 for service to Soundview or to reach some of the housing projects and high schools located uphill from 3rd Avenue. 2. For the Bx11, I did it to prevent too many buses from being on 181st Street. In addition, it would provide Morris Heights with a more frequent bus route. 3. The only reason why the M100 is heading to 262nd is to appease folks who would complain about the lack of service along Broadway (save for the ). Broadway is also the same reason why the Bx26 would be extended there. 4. In regards to the Bx10, it would provide a faster ride to Montefiore Hospital since it would now bypass the congested Jerome Avenue and make less turns. In addition, it would provide a connection between heavily-elderly Woodlawn with the many senior centers in Riverdale. 5. The idea for the Bx30 was to be a crosstown route of its own in the Northeast Bronx instead of following the Bx28 or the Bee-Lines. Edenwald would now be able to reach the at a stop closer to Manhattan and have first-time access to the and , which are key to reaching the West Bronx. 6. I only did the Bx23 to Nereid to allow more consistent service on the Bx16. Co-op City riders would be able to reach northern areas like Wakefield and Mount Vernon thanks to the Bx23. As for the Q50 to Dyre, I sent it up there to provide Co-op City an alternative to the and the Bx28. 7. For the Bx31's extension, it would provide Soundview/Castle Hill riders access to the hospitals in Morris Park, something Soundview/Castle Hill lacks (which is why Pedro Espada's clinics are so popular over there). 8. To clear up confusion for the Bx36, here are the specifics for the route. Eastbound: 180th St, Tremont Av, Taylor Av, 174th St, Rosedale Av, Randall Av, Soundview Av Westbound: Soundview Av, Randall Av, Rosedale AV, 180th St -It would change east of Boston Rd by continuing on East 180th St, connecting to the and at E 180th St, thus giving Clason's Point/Rosedale riders with a connection to the express train. -Having the Bx36 running on Rosedale would create a north-south route west of White Plains Rd in Soundview.

The Bx7 and Bx20 probably already interline with each other since they're both from Kingsbridge Depot and have similar terminals. Both buses would share the same northern terminal. On the upside, however, the Bx7 and Bx20 would bypass the Broadway traffic between 225th and 231st.

I didn't say that the Bx20 would be moved to Riverdale Av south of 239th. The only changes to the Bx20 are its northern extension, its reroute on 231st St.