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13 hours ago, Eric B said:

Here I did a long planned video of the whole walk from 6th to 8th. Will have to redo it and figure how to affix my phone to the hshopping cart I had, so it would be a smooth run. 

https://www.facebook.com/eric.bolden/posts/10225613226695004

The im interested to see if there going to add the wayfinding and signage I was able to transfer from the 2 to D today for the 1st time outside of Brooklyn and nowhere was I able to see that platform level on the 7th side and shy of the new stairway nothing on the 6th ave side. Was a big deal to me  I wonder how everything is integrated moving forward. Announcements, route maps etc.  

15 minutes ago, mrsman said:

Could someone explain what connections are to be helped by this new transfer?

To me, it seems like many of the connections that can be made through this passageway were already possible at other stations like Herald Square, Columbus Circle, and 14 St - 6 Av.

Besides easier access to Times Square underground a one-seat connection between Both 6th and 7th Express services is the main new connection added here. Not a option anywhere else.

On 8/19/2021 at 2:33 AM, BreeddekalbL said:

The numbering of the 211s what slots are they taking I know the regular 211s start at 4060 

What covers 4000-4059?

R211T's will cover some of the slot's 4040-4059.

10 hours ago, Vulturious said:

When you put it like that, it makes sense. However, they could've maybe upgraded the stucture and stations having proper spacing. Although, other El lines should've stayed around and poor decisions were made, it is what it is at the end of the day.

Technically they could have rebuilt some of the weaker parts of the line and to your point spaced the stations out. The Second ave EL was the stronger of the two and for the most could carry the weight of subway cars above 8th street. South of that point the line was abit weaker. Plus the Queens connection was the one to keep. I could see it making a SAS build abit more difficult but it was done with the 6th and Fulton just fine. But back to the Third it died a slow death the closing of the yard access and the City Hall branch were the death nails. NYCTA also didnt want to spend the money the upgrade signaling just the newer middle trackage had signal blocks the local were manual  and by the eye. They trained riders to do without in the years leading to closure the line ran 6am-6pm below 149th street on weekdays only with now service on weekends. All planned.

2 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said:

Conversation already started on another thread. Technically. 

Gotcha didn't anything on it which is why I asked here. Which thread?

What's everyones thoughts on the new B99 service starting tonight?

28 minutes ago, Union Tpke said:

 

 

 

So they blamed the wrong train class and still found something wrong?

18 hours ago, bobtehpanda said:

Shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic is not going to do a lot, particularly when nothing about organization culture seems like it's going to change, and some of the power is being removed from people who can effect cultural change like Byford.

They're giving more power to MTACC, which is the organization that delivered overpriced projects, and is consistently bungling East Side Access, something that was supposed to cost $4B and open in 2007 and is now going to cost $12B and open in 2023, or something like that. Assuming the latest figures are accurate.

I agree ☝️I guess the question is how do we debark the Titanic itself?  Whenever diving into who's in charge and making the call's ultimately can never seem to get a direct answer but it seems all roads lead to Albany are we too focused on the Byford's and Di Basio's when our public officials in Albany are the ones need to get in the game?

6 hours ago, N6 Limited said:

They'd have more breathing room if they didn't have debt service and interest to worry about. Why don't these govt agencies ever try to wipe out the debt to free up their resources?

Good point. Considering how important these transit systems are to the Economics all over the country you'd think there be sometype of lower interest or even forgiveness.

Here's the updated budget. So there saying $16.3B in and $16.6 out. Not saying there not padding some other books somewhere else.  But just using this as the guide I take it the extra funding would come in Fiscal 2021 or 22 correct? @Via Garibaldi 8

15 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

This is what was proposed....

 http://www.mta.info/press-release/mta-headquarters/mta-releases-proposed-2020-2024-capital-plan-directing-historic-level

Things like new buses, train cars, etc. for starters.  In any event, they'll have an ongoing revenue source via congestion pricing in addition to other revenue sources, not to mention they'll be asking for another fare hike next year since they are mandated still by law to increase the fare every two years. With the amount of cash coming in at this point, it's time for them to start making due with what they have. Their capital costs are out of control, as is their operational budget.

 

 

 

Gotcha I see so about $7Bn ear marked for Buses. Was this funding approved it seems like it's pending? There capital cost's definitely out-of-control I agree but also seems like a lot of their budget goes to Payroll,Pensions and health as well more then non labor looking at this chart. looking to see if I can find something more updated.

11 minutes ago, BrooklynBus said:

What do you mean by reorganization? If you mean city takeover, the city  was no more responsive than the MTA. 

Isn’t  the MTA in the process of restructuring the entire organization?

1 hour ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

Please. They're getting 52.5 BILLION for their capital plan, plus BILLIONS from congestion pricing, plus $50 million that's earmarked for improving transit in transit deserts.  

$52.5B for the MTA or NYCT? How much of that is  earmarked for the Bus Network? Is there something I can take a look at?  Is this broken down in like monthly a report?

2 hours ago, BrooklynBus said:

ou can’t just blindly give the MTA money because they will just squander it. Either use it to plug the deficit or give raises to middle management. It has to be earmarked for specific purposes like new or greatly changed bus routes with added service. One way they can definitely improve efficiency is through better scheduling so that buses don’t operate halfway across the borough not in revenue service. Their idea of improving efficiency is to cut service spans where there is light ridership, but many nighttime riders depend on that service to get to work. They mistakenly believe operating buses not in service is more efficient than when carrying passengers because it costs less. Totally lost sight that their mission is to transport riders. 

How do you feel about re-organization do you think that’s a move in the right direction?

14 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Fordham is ridiculously overcrowded with all the buses that stop and terminate there. And the reason why I wanted the Q50 to go to Fordham is to bring back the original plans for the Fordham-LGA SBS route which I think orginally was going to be the Bx52.

This is current Fordham Plaza layout correct? Might be a-few slots open for the Q44. Maybe the BX17 and 34 move to 189th? The Q44 is taking Third Ave in. The BX52 was Fordham -LGA via the Hub tho correct?

8 minutes ago, BrooklynBus said:

And they will never get it as long as they are dishonest, lie and aren't transparent. Byford' good intentions are not enough. 

Understood. And here lies the seed No process is ever correct if you don't trust in the process. Public trust is everything That should be more of the focus double down.

9 minutes ago, BrooklynBus said:

All they have to do is allocate sone of the funding from congestion pricing toward operating new services other than SBS and unnecessary expensive bus lanes that minimally help bus passengers while increasing traffic congestion. 

Indeed with that said. Should there be a major push for Public leaders to go above the MTA to the actual boss? If the MTA is crying broke Let's get a few extra dollars into their hands with No excuses now to get it done correctly.

2 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

I would have rather them give the Fordham Portion to the Q50 and leave the Q44 as it is.

Would the Q50 be able to handle the load? Headways,Non-articulate's? IMO Fordham would get decent ridership. Plus thats quite a route overlap with both routes. What's you angle the Q44 extension affects reliability?

1 hour ago, BrooklynBus said:

It's  ridiculous that they want to remain anonymous. At the Brooklyn workshop, I attended, most refused to even tell me their name. They will only pay attention to comments made by many. They will ignore individual comments. 

Trust is the MTA's main issue.

And im just asking what do we think the fix is this a Albany thing?  More funding in so the MTA doesn't need penny pinch as much? Who sets the budget? Just wondering?

1 minute ago, B35 via Church said:

Yeah, there's no disrespect here either... I will admit though that I was exuding irritation - as I was trying to figure out where all this was even coming from, on your end, since this afternoon... I'm reading your posts, and I'm sitting there like, who's even arguing this? We know planning isn't easy... We know that there are costs involved with running bus routes... We know data is important..... So forth & so on....

So yeah, all points taken, but again, nobody's claiming expert status on here (well I'm not, anyway).....

All good no question the respect is there. I think it was just a difference perception. Plus it being in the digital form and the format of a thread doesn't help as well. 

31 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

now I know to check you off in opinions column" is a flippant retort to anyone that has an opinion...

To your other point, obviously feedback includes that of those from multiple perspectives.... Where am I saying or implicating otherwise??? Apparently you are putting me in some sort of box & its completely unfounded... People can have whatever opinions, that's part of life... That should go without saying.

No not really after trying to explain a few times maybe it didn't catch on this end. I honestly was taking your comments as partially factual thinking maybe this was some insight to the MTA's process. Why I asked for more details and how you maybe confirmed all of this. And it's partially my fault I actually think that some people might actually work in the industry on this form and A few do so im treating it like real life. I know people that work in transportation and engineering so everyone's starting off at 100%. Maybe I should just take everything as an opinion and work up from there start at 0%. That's my point No disrespect. @BrooklynBus had 45 years in I didn't know that. Okay sir you know way more than I do you're the expert here's my ear. Again if it's my fault I'll take it I need to start looking at it from the opinion standpoint first and foremost so it's all in the Opinion column, now from my perspective so it's nothing personal. But I am the type a guy that needs to see it If you're claiming it for anything more than an opinion. If everyone's talking about there an expert at something and no one's doing it and putting into practice I'm going to think that's a little strange personally. And I might be a jerk for that but I personally don't have a problem telling you I don't know or submitting or this is IMO. But I'm not afraid to tell you what I do know and what im a expert at either.

2 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

"we should still understand the correct way of doing it which is with data and feedback. Or we're no better then folks at the MTA were pointing out."

Continue minimizing those with opinions & see how far you get with that.... Oh wait, that's what the MTA does.

Never said you shouldn't have an opinion I have tons but it's always stated as such. Feedback IMO <--(Opinion) It's from multiple perspectives not just one or two people what you might hate someone else might love we wont know until we listen and see the other perspectives.

20 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

At a bare minimum, I would like to see the MTA use more cognitive geography and mental mapping through direct observation in their planning decisions.

Absolutely necessary that's the foundations of thinking and understanding people.

I agree wholeheartedly in Software most important part of process is User Experience A lot of cognitive principles are used For user stories and personas understanding users and how they interact with your software. I understand the importance Even though my background is more Civil /geometric engineering which is super data driven That's why you have a team and different points of input.

40 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

I will fully admit that I'm new to this, just a college student, while we have people on here and in this very thread who have been in the transit industry and/or planning for decades so I don't have much standing when I say this but in my personal opinion we need to find a way to combine hard data with people's experiences (and most importantly conceptualizations of) interacting with the network. I'm worried that we are focusing too much on ridership data and not enough on how service is conceptualized by its users.

10 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

I wouldn't know it, since you've effectively made a whole argument out of nothing.....

Sorry about that now I know to you check you off in opinions column. Live and learn I suppose.

5 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

Really now....

What you're implicating with this line of questioning is that we have to be experts (not that I proclaimed to be any of that nonsense anyway), or work for the MTA to come to the conclusion that the MTA doesn't use data to benefit the greater good.... Their results are the results (as in, the bus routes themselves & how frequently buses are operated on them), I'm not understanding what you don't get about that - or is this you playing devil's advocate again?.... When just about everytime you look, there's some damn service cut being proposed (and eventually made), do I really need financial or managerial reports to come to the conclusion that people will be negatively affected by (whatever) bus route that's now arriving less frequently, than before the fact? No, I don't.

If someone shoots with me with some gun, IDGAF what alloy that bullet was made from....

Nah, now that's just false, nobody's making it sound easy.... You're continuing to make a refutation out of something that was never stated or implicated.... That seems to be your basis of this entire exchange & I don't know where it's coming from... It's as if you're taking the critiques of this plan personally, because you're in transportation software....

Don't understand what you're trying to ask here....

Guy it's not that serious. Again Anything I tell you I'm going to back it up with why I feel that way. Example The redesign is all about cutting service look at the MTA deficit or look at spending on the Subway" And im going to go head and cite my sources (Shurgs) I just expected the same my bad.