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    MTA Bus Operations: Deliveries, Moves & Transfers

    in New York City Bus

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    15 minutes ago, 4P3607 said:

    I just seen 4143 around Pelham Bay Park with LGA stickers on both sides. Don't know what's up with this except that it was at JFK previously or so I thought. 

     

    Apologies if this was already mentioned, I don't have time to look thru pages rn

    4143 is an ECH bus. Possibly it's ECH decal had fallen off revealing a LGA sticker underneath.

    ECH has the following: 4020-4037, 4140-4143, 4485-4488.

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    MTA Bus Operations: Scrapped Equipment List

    in New York City Bus

    Posted

    10 hours ago, TomaszSBklyn said:

     

    The timing of retirement does not seem to make much sense, at least to an outsider to the MTA, yet the taxpayer like myself. For example, the MCI flipdots long time ago removed from depots other that CP served for years until recently. Many of them stayed even longer due to delays in delivery of the Prevost units caused by the pandemic. Similarly, the 2004-2006 MCI CLs are limited to a few depots, but all of a sudden are transferred back to CAS, since there is a need for them, and they seem good enough for the job. The Orions are retired en masse from the NYCT depots, but are holding fine for now in the MTA bus depots.

    Is it the case that the MTA bus gets the best older buses and the NYCT keeps the worst ones? Not that I know of.

    The only logical explanation is that buses are retired when the new replacement units come, otherwise they are kept pretty much for as long as needed. Does that make economic sense? I would argue not always, but this may be a topic for another discussion.

    I guess you don't understand that MTA Bus is treated like a stepchild. They really didn't want to acquire the private bus lines but were forced to. That's why they'll send buses too old for NYC Bus to MTA Bus.

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    MTA Bus Operations: Deliveries, Moves & Transfers

    in New York City Bus

    Posted

    2 hours ago, TomaszSBklyn said:

    Thanks. It is good to know that these issues are limited to a few new units, but all or most of them are pulled out of service as a precaution. Somehow I got an impression that new problems are widespread. Speaking about the R179s, I relied on news coverage, where the new subway cars were simply described as "lemons". Apparently big overstatement, but many news presenters and writers or anchors like big and oversimplified words as they perhaps improve ratings.

    I read about the Grumman Flxible 870 disaster in NYC Transit decades ago. From what I was reading problems with this particular fleet looked like way bigger and more dangerous than the issues with the most recent Novas and Prevosts. But from what I read, even these Grummans were rebuild and successfully used by other transit agencies.

    This thread is for Bus Deliveries and Transfers ONLY! PLEASE move these discussions to the RANDOM THOUGHTS thread!

    It's really becoming increasingly annoying having to sift to this nonsensical drivel to find the actual moves and transfers!

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    MTA Bus Operations: Deliveries, Moves & Transfers

    in New York City Bus

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    1 hour ago, QM1to6Ave said:

    Back in the day, even a regular consumer buying a brand new car from a dealer would start making list of all the problems and come back to the dealer a bunch of times the first few weeks to get it all straightened out. My last two or three cars also had workmanship issues despite being brand new. Some were freak occurrences, some were issues that were seen on other new vehicles of the same model. It's the way it is with the complex machines we use.

    Can we please move these conversations to the RANDOM THOUGHTS thread?

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