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22 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

And yes they should build a connection between 59’St Columbus Circle (north of) and Lexington Av-63 St, connecting to the local track.

The express tracks maybe—depending on how many streets north the connection has to be made to connect to 63 Street. There’s a long stretch of switches and flyovers.

Connecting to the local tracks would probably be not doable. At least one of the locals track would be quite difficult to reach.

1. The southbound local track is entirely underneath the west side of Central Park West.
2. Where the flyovers are, the northbound local track and both express tracks wall off the southbound local track.

It’s shielded from the left and right.

A track connection north of 59 Street would be a terrible idea: you have a junction just south of the station. Either 8 Avenue or 6 Avenue would have to be kicked off the express tracks, because it would result in a merge and diverge choke point at that one station.

A new platform underneath the two levels? lol. Where south of the station would there be room to make a track connection?

19 minutes ago, Wallyhorse said:

they need to extend the 63rd Street tunnel so it reaches the 8th Avenue line.   That would allow when needed for the  to run via 63rd without any other detours along the way.

Yeah! This sucks. I had to walk an extra avenue to access the ! It’s not like the they’ve got easy access to all the transfers that the has between World Trade Center and 7 Avenue!

(/s)

lol… not looking good for midday southbound service right now on the . Every single route with a delay has it in the southbound direction.

The time-honored tradition of peering down the tunnel to see if a train is coming apparently does not work at 34 Street–Penn Station ()… looking into the tunnel, trains coming in southbound aren’t always apparent until they are already entering the station.

2 hours ago, N6 Limited said:

And sometimes holding doors.

Funny, because that was partly the reason for the missed transfer. Those doors were kept open for a few seconds longer—just long enough for the conductor across the platform to give us the (figurative) middle finger.

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Ah… the indignities one has to suffer through for a non-one-seat ride… missing the first cross-platform transfer by 3 seconds, then missing the second one (backup transfer point) by a minute, and then getting held for a train to cross ahead. Now I gotta walk two avenues across town.

Can’t blame people for holding on to their one-seat ride so strongly now…

3 hours ago, RTOMan said:

Some of them will never learn until they are dead..

Works for the Christians who repent on their deathbed. Being on trackbed though…

On 1/21/2024 at 2:39 PM, B35 via Church said:

I work in LI & no longer take public transit, but I don't miss peak direction commuting to/from Manhattan for shit.... Last time I did so was back in the early 2010's; used to do the whole to the to get to Christopher bit.... Sometimes I'd take the & walk from West 4th on a good (brisk, cold) day.....

“Congratulations!” …if you’re able to simply walk to work.

I’m still iffy on the driving and bussing. This Spectrum tech is coming to Hudson Yards/Chelsea right now from LIC, and he’s taking 50 minutes just to cross the East River and a few avenues, then another 15 minutes to find parking. My train on the other hand, made the trip in 20 minutes.

3 hours ago, 7-express said:

Notably, the bellmouth provision for a future expansion to the Bronx has been eliminated with this revision.

Source?

13 hours ago, MHV9218 said:

The mock-up looks pretty low-tech, for what it's worth. 

If it’ll raise the bar for effort required to get a body onto the tracks, it’s probably good enough. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

6 hours ago, R142A-6-Train said:

I mean, how does that sound?

A “fix” usually begins with a statement of the problem (or problems) that needs to be solved. None of your proposals thus far have been prefaced or postfaced with the problems they are fixing.

Other forum members were kind enough to explain why not, and after five rounds of rejections it’d behoove you to set the bar a little higher and give your ideas some legs to stand on.

I live in Midtown Manhattan now and I go to work basically in the opposite direction of where everybody else is going: away from the central business district. So I get on the train in the AM and it gets less and less crowded until I get off. In the PM, the train gets more and more packed as I get closer to home.

It used to be the opposite. I don’t think I can quite get used to this reversal.

25 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said:

Probabaly work at 125 St and 137 St stations, that prevent those stations from being accessible to passengers.

Yeah… but both platforms though? There are no island platforms along that segment, and the entrances are separate. If the trains are passing through to turn, they can definitely serve one or the other platform at each of the traversed stations.

Interesting choice of end stations… There are no switches to turn back trains in either direction from 103 Street to 125 Street (inclusive).

It’s hard to turn trains normally between Dyckman Street and 242 Street too given that they are all side platforms and the switches aren’t all there for that kind of operation, but the segment is short enough for single-tracking.

8 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

the use of that switch would mean that local trains cannot enter the station until the express has crossed over. This used to happen in 2010-2016 when an  train that terminated at 57 St-7 Av during the AM rush (around 7:30AM) had to cross over to go to Astoria Blvd via Astoria Express to layup track. Trains that were actually going to Queens got delayed stuck behind the train crossing over.

Canal Street (), Prince Street (), and 59 Street () are like this too. I’m curious how Coney Island–Stillwell Avenue could possibly be the exception to this issue and why it could not be applied to other way stations. and train could enter on tracks 2 and 3 simultaneously without stopping. Same for the and on tracks 6 and 7 or the and on tracks 4 and 5.

17 hours ago, Kamen Rider said:

The problem with this plan really pops up when discussing car assignments.

First of all, half the reason the service patterns operate the way they do now is because of what yards are where and what they can handle. Car Equipment makes that call, not us. 

Second of all, the C and B were switched in part because the B was not a full-time operation uptown.  this meant the A had to cover 155 and 163 when the B wasn't running there. so unless you intend to institute Brighton Express service on Saturday and Sunday, then every daytime Saturday and Sunday A would have to cross to the local and then back to the express. that, plus making those two extra stops, will slow down A service.

You’re taking at face value that these proposals were meant to fix something.

This tells you everything you need to know about the motivation:

On 1/15/2024 at 1:18 AM, R142A-6-Train said:

A huge change I want to see! 8th Avenue Service will be changed Express. It will become a more rounder line than the .

I’d start by asking what “fix” means.

Avoid Broadway local north bound … conga line of local trains to 34 Street so far.

9 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Someone was shot and killed onboard a  train

https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/01/15/rider-breaking-up-fight-over-loud-music-shot-to-death-on-brooklyn-subway/
This is why I mind my business on trains…

14 hours ago, Lex said:

I mean, it could be used for a connection to Washington Heights and possibly Inwood, which would add a connection to 207. At the very least, it could make some non-revenue moves a bit easier.

But its very existence would threaten the probability of building the straight tunnel to the Bronx. We’re talking about the same agency which admits a “no build” option as a viable choice in its studies. As long as a cheaper option exists, it will be the favored excuse for procrastinating on the real Bronx SAS extension.

13 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

5. maybe vandals had messed with this train earlier and then was “cleared” to continue service even though it should have gone to the yard

Supposing this were the case… if this doesn’t bring down the ban hammer of justice on the miscreants, nothing will…

6 hours ago, Lil 57 said:

Service to Coney Island has been restored with trains using the SB track in both directions.

That can’t be great for rush hours… I’m assuming they have to turn some at Avenue X too to avoid congestion.

22 hours ago, ABCDEFGJLMNQRSSSWZ said:

one that tries to tie into 8th Avenue/CPW.

That would be some epic trolling. After a century, the solution would be to make people around 3 Avenue walk/bus to Grand Concourse, then take the roundabout trip crosstown to St. Nicholas Avenue (8 Avenue) and back again to 2 Avenue. Moreover, because there is no Phase 3, the train just veers off course right back to the west side of Manhattan (7 Avenue) before veering east again along Broadway.

“There is your solution, folks! Take it or leave it. There’s no more incentive to build the real thing now.”

Seeing cops catch fare evaders at both Coney Island entrances puts a smile on my face. They are finally cracking down. 🥲

A third one who had just entered through the gate saw the cops giving the chase to the guy before him and noped out of there. 😂

13 hours ago, Calvin said:

https://pix11.com/video/man-arrested-after-threatening-mta-train-conductor-with-gun-nypd/9271486/

On Tuesday, December 20th morning on the  there was an individual showing a gun to the conductor so, she could open the doors. But, was arrested at the location. Glad that the crew and passengers are okay from this chaos. 

If she did not acquiesce to the threat, maybe the gunman would not have gotten onto the train to threaten the passengers too? The conductor made a very stupid decision there to put her passengers at risk.